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But the plan is to run 3x per week and Strength train 3x per week and go heavy.
That's what I've been doing. I'm making good strides on the running and lifting, but not really with the scale. Good luck.
But the plan is to run 3x per week and Strength train 3x per week and go heavy.
That's what I've been doing. I'm making good strides on the running and lifting, but not really with the scale. Good luck.
Hiya Trops, how the heck are ya?I think over the weekend I was debbie downer but my spirits are brightening.
Then Friday is Step's birthday. He is so cute all he wants is Chicken Parmesan and brownies
VIRGO!!!!! LOL!Anywho! I'd better finish cleaning up before bed.
I’m not that fat girl anymore. So weird but true. I have a flat sexy tummy and my arms are thin and getting toned and yes my legs aren’t where I want them to be but my calves look great and my tush aint so bad. I know I haven’t lost any weight recently but DAMN I look good…. And I FEEL good. It’s still hard to say but I am starting to SEE it.
A Fucking FINALLY!! YAY!!!
25:39, a PR thank you very much. I felt
awesome other than getting used to my new shoes… my feet were a little hotter than usual and my left shoe was loose kinda.
I also had a light bulb go off about strength training…. If I train my legs more then it will ultimately benefit my running… DUH!!! More the reason to do it consistently. I don’t think I’ve strength trained consistently since I had a personal trainer back in 04…. So it’s time to get with it!!!
Damn those goldfish… even though the serving size is 55 pieces I ate almost 3 servings… it was a mindless moment when I should have stopped waaayy sooner…. I could have eaten the whole bag, but thankfully Step finished them off.![]()

They're REALLY nice and sweet which is great for me (sugar addict MissDFITT said:Okay, I’m all done with the prescribed reading. I’m such a student, I read each twice and made notes in the margin and highlighted and everything!! You would be proud.
To begin I have to SPECIFY what my goals are. Which for me is the tricky part but after reading all this it’s not so tricky. I want to gain strength in my legs, in order to run faster and longer as well as have a very strong toned upper body (including tight abs not 6pk but nice and firm). Preserving and maintaining my current muscle mass is #1 priority because I haven’t been doing this with any consistency.
As you suggested, I will do 2 workouts a week that consist of compound movements. Now from the readings I gather that circuit training it out for the time being.
And slow and heavier is the name of the game.
The thing I will need help with is rep – set – rest.
And as far as weight goes, I want something that is challenging but not to heavy so that I can finish the rep strong and I think I will just have to experiment with the different weights I have.
I currently keep a semi-detailed training log on a desk calendar, I will have to be a little more detailed oriented but it’s doable. As Val would say I am a virgo.
My only question lies in my diet.
As I mentioned previously I get between 1700-1900 cals per day
I recently have been eating more powerbars just because they are quick and easy while I am on campus, is this a good thing or not?
My previous trainer would say STAY AWAY, but now that I myself am more educated I now know he knows nothing about nutrition… so I don’t know if to trust that or not.
I think that’s about it. I have only a single special need. I think you know but I have degenerative disc disease (which really isn’t a disease) in one disc in my thoracic vertebrae, right about bra line. I am not allowed to do any heavy lifting (10+lbs) over my head and all ab work that involves putting my legs in the air is out. I danced (jazz & ballet) for about 7 years and had really strong abs, but since this injury I don’t work my “core” as much as I used to and I would really like to get the strength back, but its difficult with this injury because I worry about irritating it.
One note: you mention getting tight abs, but not 6 pack abs. Unfortunately, we don't get to pick and choose how the fat leaves us and how we'll look when it's gone. Given that your lower half is the stubborn area, you very well could get much leaner on the upper half before your body starts tapping into the fat on the lower half. How your abs look once that's done is merely a function of your abdominal muscles and at what point the fat becomes 'harder' to tap into on the belly.
If you need to, you can throw a circuit training into the mix for some additional caloric burn. B/c of the way circuit training is set up (low weight, high reps, low rest), even though it feels challenging (primarily on a cardiovascular and muscular endurance level), it's not too intense on the body systemically.
Wow that was quite the sentence, hopefully you followed that.
My suggestion would be to keep circuits out for the time being. If things aren't heading in the right direction, it might be something we add in.
In terms of rep speed, you don't want slow. The lowering phase should be controlled, possibly between 2-3 seconds. (eccentric) The raising phase should be as fast as you can while maintaining absolutely perfect form. (concentric)
If the weight is sufficiently heavy enough, it very well can be traveling slowly on the raising phase even though you're moving it as quickly *as you can*.
For instance, when I'm pushing out a 300+ lb bench press, the bar, from an outside onlooker, looks like it's moving slow. But I'm pushing as forcefully as I possibly can.
Surely. This is probably not a way you've trained before. Am I correct in saying so?
I'll also like to throw some exercise selections at you. They're not mandatory but it will give you an idea of what your workouts should resemble.
In the first phase, if you will, you're sole focus should be on perfecting the movement patterns. Adding weight to said movements is silly, as it only makes learning proper movement that much more difficult.
During this phase, many of the exercises won't be challenging at all.
How long will the learning phase take?
Sometimes 1 week. Sometimes 1 month.
Completely depends on things like your experience, familiarity with same/similar movements, coordination, strength, etc.
Suffice it to say, once you're comfortable, you can begin adding weight to the movements, slowly but surely. Eventually you'll be at an appropriate intensity.
You'll know your at an appropriate intensity for the reason you mentioned. You won't be failing during the sets, but the reps will be challenging and by the end of each set you'll only have 1, maybe 2 good reps left "in the tank."
Nutrition can be real tricky at your stage.
I've seen it where women your size need to get pretty technical with their diets in order to realize fat loss.
This primarily includes toying around with carbohydrates. But it can get messy. Not to scare you off, but just so you understand that some complex tracking may be required. We'll cross that bridge if we have to.
For now, and speaking very generally, I've seen it where women have to go as low as 8 calories per pound of body weight plus frequent exercise to realize the results they wanted.
From what I remember, you were 140ish, which would put you at 1120 calories!
When you go that low, you have to be very conscious about the foods you're putting in your mouth simply b/c the less calories you're eating the less room you have to 'wiggle' in terms of food selection since you MUST get adequate protein and EFAs in. Once you account for those things, there's not much allotment left.
This puts you at about 13 calories per pound. That's the high end of intake required to lose fat, especially for someone in your shoes. This could be your only 'problem' or the sole reason you're not losing.
I'd drop to a true 12. If that doesn't work 11, then 10. It's all about tweaking based on feedback.
Here's my general thought process about setting up a diet:
For example, say you're 140 lbs. The rough estimate of maintenance calories is 2100 (140 * 15), so a 20% deficit would give you ~1680 cals (which is 12*BW in this example; I'd round to 1600 or 1700 for convenience).
The suggestion is to not go below 1g/lb of goal BW for protein, so call it 130g * 4 = 520 kcals of protein. You can get away with something like 30% of total calories from for or 0.25 - .5 g/lb of fats, so call it 50ish g * 9 = 450 kcals of fat.
From those you're up to 970 kcals, leaving you 630 cals for carbs. 630/4 = 160g of carbs.
Thing is, 12*BW (or 20% deficit in this case) is an upper limit of fat loss; you may not actually lose weight on that. Now guess what happens if you have to drop to say 10*BW?
You're down to 1400 kcals, or only 430 kcals to spare after your essentials are covered. In that case, you literally don't have room to eat more than about 100g of carbs without cutting back your essential intakes.
Now some people can benefit from dropping the fat back to keep carbs up; really the 0.5g/lb number isn't actually accounting for essential fats. However most people tend to find that appetite control is better with higher fat/lower carbs.
Set calories. Set potein. Set fats. See what's left to work with in terms of caloric allotment and fill it with carbs and possibly more fats.
Does shed any new light on the subject for you?
Hard to say. Not all bars are created equal. For me, bars don't cut it. When I'm dieting, I like good, satiating food and bars don't provide me those things.
If they fit your calories and macros, then I don't see anything inherently wrong with them.
Some contain shit ingredients but that doesn't affect physique so much it does health.
Honestly I would love to have a 6pk but I dont think Im gentically inclined, but if it happens great and if not thats fine to... I just want strength back in this area. Although I do have pretty good definition in my torso when I flex but its not strong. I'm sure you understand what I mean.
In general I like circuit training, its fun IMO. It keeps things interesting for 90 mins or so and I always feel like I'm getting pretty good bang for my buck, but I will do as told and cut them out.
Ugh, I was hoping it wasn't going to get so complicated but yes is does shed light. I've never tracked marcos before so its going to be a new thing for me.
Can I go off the percentages that fitday gives me? Or should I be tracking gram for gram of proteins and fats?
And for the record I've NEVER done well with cutting carbs... makes me feel like I'm actually on a "diet" but its been a long time since I've low carbed and I'm willing to try it out.
When I was with my trainer I was on a low carb, low fat diet... that pretty much consisted of chicken or turkey, veggies, salads, brown rice, and oatmeal.... no dairy, no fruit, no red meat, no bread... No nothing pretty much.. and it wasn't doable... Granted I remember feeling pretty damn good but I was always craving... even something as simple as a glass of milk. So as long as I get a little of each food group then I will be happy.![]()
Okay good to know. Like I said they are quick and easy for on the go, especially on school days because I tend to "forget" to eat because I'm so caught up with school shit... Know what I mean jelly bean???
I am very excited to be starting a new program designed to my needs and I understand that results vary... But in the same sense I've had some things click mentally recently and I'm beginning to realize that hey... I don't look that bad. Yes I could always have a better physique but what I've got aint too shabby. And I think with that I've also hit a new level of fitness for whatever reason... maybe having a PR on my last run or a really great salsa class was just a coindicence (spelling) and maybe not... but things are good and I'll leave it at that.![]()
For instance, when I'm pushing out a 300+ lb bench press, the bar, from an outside onlooker, looks like it's moving slow. But I'm pushing as forcefully as I possibly can.


When people say this to me, I like to ask them, "What 'bang' do you need to reach your goals, and what does said bang feel like?"
What do you consider complicated so far?
Is it specifically the macro tracking?
Trust me, as I mentioned above, this is far from complicated compared to what I've seen necessarily have to happen. Imagine altering calorie and carb intake on various days throughout the week. Sounds rather simple, but that requires a lot of fine tuning, tracking, weighing, etc to make happen right.
So complicated is *really* a relative term.
To boot, maybe you don't need to track macros. Like I said above, you're caloric intake is actually on the high end for fat loss. If you prefer, you can simply try dropping intake down a bit from where you currently are and see where that leaves ya.
I'm not so much a fan of percentages given the fact they're not absolute. 30% protein for me is going to lead to a much higher intake for me than you. My intake is 3200 calories, yours is 1700.
30% for me is 240 grams of protein
30% for you is 127 grams.
That said, you don't *have to* go by grams.
Any idea how many grams of carbs you're eating now?
Protein and fats tend to be the most satiating nutrients. If you set them right, even consuming 100 grams of carbs (which I wouldn't necessarily consider low carb) isn't going to be that tough.
But some people definitely do better on carbs than others.
What are your typical carb sources too?
Your trainer was a boob.
I could have gotten a SET of boobs for less than I paid for 3 months with him.... damn.