It Is My Contention: WARNING: This may get HOT!

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When arguing a point,
please use grown up words that don't contain the phrase "num nums"

I do when I am speaking to grown ups.

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Chef, are you gay? I heard that gay guys can get wood for fat women.

Gay guys don't get wood for ANY women you stupid dipshit. Not only are you clueless about obesity, but now we all find out that you're clueless about human sexuality too? Why am I not surprised?

Fat women and fat men develop ugly faces.

...in your childish and unwarranted opinion. You have said absolutely nothing intelligent and, when somebody proves you wrong, which I have done, you revert to making insults. Well, attempts at insults, because they're quite terrible.

FYI - When someone stops debating and starts throwing out nothing but insults, it's just a sad, sad way of admitting that you have lost.

Do me a favor...

Scan a copy of your certificate that shows you are a certified weight loss counselor and let me see it. Until that happens, don't talk anymore, because you obviously have no clue what the fuck you are talking about.
 
Gay guys don't get wood for ANY women you stupid dipshit. Not only are you clueless about obesity, but now we all find out that you're clueless about human sexuality too? Why am I not surprised?

I was just thinking that the way fat females morph into an androgynous shape that a gay guy might use one in a pinch.



...in your childish and unwarranted opinion. You have said absolutely nothing intelligent and, when somebody proves you wrong, which I have done, you revert to making insults. Well, attempts at insults, because they're quite terrible.

You saw the picture. Kirstie Alley used to be gorgeous. Now she is hideous.:puke:

FYI - When someone stops debating and starts throwing out nothing but insults, it's just a sad, sad way of admitting that you have lost.

You must be talking about yourself. YOU are the one doing the insulting. That is all you have left because I have the facts on my side and YOU know it!

Do me a favor...

Scan a copy of your certificate that shows you are a certified weight loss counselor and let me see it. Until that happens, don't talk anymore, because you obviously have no clue what the fuck you are talking about.

I am not going to do you any favors. But I will leave you with this to ponder so you can see how fat people ruin it for everyone.













 
I contend that people remain douchebags not because they can't do the things required to be human but because they won't.

Being that most of us believe in free speech everyone is welcome to discuss this but it has been my experience that douchebags lack self control yet they want to control others. If this topic is to hot for you to handle please avoid it. No body is forcing you to read or participate in it. In other words, show some restraint.

This is an important academic discussion that is long overdue. This year 1 douchebag will greedily engage in a flame war. I think it is important to boldy go where no one has before and have a frank discussion about douchebags and douchebaggery.

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Oh for pete's sake, didn't you learn anything from last time this guy showed up?

He's looking for attention. He feeds of threads like these. He doesn't care if he's right or wrong, he wants to belittle people so he can feel in control. He hates fat people, and takes every chance he gets to make sure that everybody knows it. You can't argue with him because he will accept neither scientific facts nor common sense, and if you happen to be right, he will just ignore it and move on to another of his 'theories' which is just as absurd as the first one.

As long as you keep replying to him, you will just keep feeding him and make him come back for more. So pretty please, stop replying, and he'll eventually go away and try to spread his hatred somewhere else.
 
I contend that people remain douchebags not because they can't do the things required to be human but because they won't.

Being that most of us believe in free speech everyone is welcome to discuss this but it has been my experience that douchebags lack self control yet they want to control others. If this topic is to hot for you to handle please avoid it. No body is forcing you to read or participate in it. In other words, show some restraint.

This is an important academic discussion that is long overdue. This year 1 douchebag will greedily engage in a flame war. I think it is important to boldy go where no one has before and have a frank discussion about douchebags and douchebaggery.

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Thank you. Now maybe we can get this discussion on track now that we agree diet failure is largely a matter of won't and people not complying rather than can't.

Perhaps we can salvage thins thread and have a civil discussion but somehow I doubt is. People do not get fat by exercising self control so I am not real hopeful that they will show the restraint and maturity to discuss something that makes them so uncomfortable. We will see.
 
Oh for pete's sake, didn't you learn anything from last time this guy showed up?

He's looking for attention. He feeds of threads like these. He doesn't care if he's right or wrong, he wants to belittle people so he can feel in control. He hates fat people, and takes every chance he gets to make sure that everybody knows it. You can't argue with him because he will accept neither scientific facts nor common sense, and if you happen to be right, he will just ignore it and move on to another of his 'theories' which is just as absurd as the first one.

As long as you keep replying to him, you will just keep feeding him and make him come back for more. So pretty please, stop replying, and he'll eventually go away and try to spread his hatred somewhere else.

Nothing you said is true.

I don't hate fat people. I hate their selfish and gluttonous behavior. Love the sinner hate the sin and according to most religions gluttony is a sin.

Ignores scientific data? I am the only one who presented any!

You say I am here for attention if that is true why didn't the other posters see that and why have the responded?


You say I present theories, please explain what theory I am presenting and why it is wrong. You won't because YOU know I am right.:sifone:
 
No, I won't because I have better things to do, and because it won't matter to you anyway. In other threads you've been presented with clear proof that you were wrong, and you just ignored it.

Just for the record....I don't believe in religion, or anything it stands for. So spare me your gluttony speeches.

Now I'm gonna move on to something more worthwhile, and stop wasting my time with stroking your e-wiener. Because let's face it....that's all you really post for.

I'm outta here :leaving: because I hate :icon_bs:!
 
LMAO!!!! I cannot BELIEVE that someone has THIS MUCH free time and expects to be taken SERIOUSLY! LOSER! hahahahah. GET A FUCKING LIFE!
 
I am not going to do you any favors. But I will leave you with this to ponder so you can see how fat people ruin it for everyone.

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First of all, that looks REALLY fake. It reminds me of my "Perfect Attendance" award that I got in 3rd grade. Secondly, even if it was rea (which it's not)l, you wouldn't be certified. It's WAY past February 28, 2008, which is the date when that supposed certification was valid through.

Most documents that are scanned aren't perfectly flat and perfectly legible, with no minor imperfections. I could've made that in the generic Paint program that comes with Windows. Nice try though.
 
What exactly is the argument??
Everyone knows that being fat is caused by over eating. duh.
If it were caused by anything else.. there would have been fat people in the Nazi Concentration Camps.
I don't understand what you want these people to say, Educator... I mean they are here... at a weightloss forum.. that means they want to lose weight ... right?
I am here because I am about 12 pounds over my slim and trim weight. I freely admit that the reason I can't fit into most of my jeans is because I am taking in more calories than I need. I am snacking up a storm every night. drinking wine.. and being a glutton!
Is that what you want everyone to admit to??
 
Educator is a funny guy. He was right, in most cases it is won't and not can't.

He just doesn't know that turning asshole all the way to max when posting is not the way to help people.
 
why do you guys bother with this person?

I didn't have to read much to notice we are treating with an EX FAT KID. the mean kind.
that's right, someone who once was chubby-fat and was bullied and teased a lot for it. the hate grew and he exercised-diet himself almost to death to ''show them'' not because he wanted to be healthier.
now he is ''fit'' he became one of the kids that hate on fat kids
and validates himself through it- which shows he is still and always will be a fat kid inside: someone insecure and powerless.

I'd give him a hug.
 
why do you guys bother with this person?

I didn't have to read much to notice we are treating with an EX FAT KID. the mean kind.
that's right, someone who once was chubby-fat and was bullied and teased a lot for it. the hate grew and he exercised-diet himself almost to death to ''show them'' not because he wanted to be healthier.
now he is ''fit'' he became one of the kids that hate on fat kids
and validates himself through it- which shows he is still and always will be a fat kid inside: someone insecure and powerless.

I'd give him a hug.

Good point Amiba.

Or you could almost see it this way too.

IMPO

He was fat, got into a diet and exersice routine lost the weight and figured ok I can stop dieting and exersicing now that I'm thin and then gained all the weight back.

So now he is blaming it on the fact that HIS diet failed because he gained it all back. Just for the simple fact that even thou he didn't have to follow a weight loss diet he didn't follow any healthy diet what so ever.

This is just my ranting on this subject. I have no Idea what or who this guy is but an insulting little creature. I could be totally wrong about this guys weight. It is just that in my experience I have seen many people blame failed diets just for this reason.
 
You're using statistics from 2004 as your argument? What are you going to tell us next? That the Red Sox are going to win the World Series, breaking their curse?

Come on guy, not even the retarded bowler that challenged Barack Obama to a game is going to buy what you're saying.

I thought we were supposed to show restraint here.
A big "WRONG" doesnt exactly show much restraint. hahahah

This is one I cant really get into. Everyones different. theres some larger people that want to control people, theres skinny people that want to control people, theres short people that want to etc.
Not only that.
But theres skinny people who do drugs, alcoholics, as well as bigger people.

Everyones different. It's not just larger people that cant show self control.

If I could be skinny and eat whatever I want (which there are people that can definately) I would do it. Not becuase im depressed blah blah blah. I'm sorry but sometimes ...food just tastes good? Does it have to be some deep rooted connection? Undoubtedly, some people have that. But hey. I just like my cake and I wanna eat it too. =)


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Actually, we all do so many things with really deep seeded unconscious reasons.

My friend is a therapist (working on PhD) and we were talking about things and he was pointing out different thingst hat I was doing and it totally made sense (we were talking about dreams, which is what started the conversation.)

The human mind is a pretty tricky thing. Cake does just taste good sometimes, but why would we not just eat it in moderation? I always would want a bigger slice or more slices. Even after a big meal why would I not be satiated with just one sensible slice? I don't know, I just wasn't. Im sure theres a reason I just don't know it.

Of course, that doesn't mean eveything has some unconscious reason behind it. It could just be "cake tastes good and I felt like more."

I guess I'm not really adding anything but more questions, but it can be good to question things.
 
Actually, we all do so many things with really deep seeded unconscious reasons.

My friend is a therapist (working on PhD) and we were talking about things and he was pointing out different thingst hat I was doing and it totally made sense (we were talking about dreams, which is what started the conversation.)

The human mind is a pretty tricky thing. Cake does just taste good sometimes, but why would we not just eat it in moderation? I always would want a bigger slice or more slices. Even after a big meal why would I not be satiated with just one sensible slice? I don't know, I just wasn't. Im sure theres a reason I just don't know it.

Of course, that doesn't mean eveything has some unconscious reason behind it. It could just be "cake tastes good and I felt like more."

I guess I'm not really adding anything but more questions, but it can be good to question things.

When I was still in culinary school, we had to read through a bunch of research on cravings. One of the reasons why we get cravings is because it's a natural way for our bodies to tell us what nutrients and vitamins we are lacking. When we're young, our bodies remember the benefits of the foods we eat and the tastes that went with them. As we get older, out body reverts to those "memories" to tell us that we need to eat something in particular in order to get it's nutritional benefits.

For example, if someone were craving orange juice, they are probably lacking in Vitamin C. Or, if someone was craving a piece of cake (as per your example), they are probably low in blood sugar.

It was a very interesting topic and after we researched it, it all made sense.
 
I contend that people remain fat not because they can't do the things required to lose weight but because they won't.

Being that most of us believe in free speech everyone is welcome to discuss this but it has been my experience that fat people lack self control yet they want to control others. If this topic is to hot for you to handle please avoid it. No body is forcing you to read or participate in it. In other words, show some restraint.

This is an important academic discussion that is long overdue. This year 400,000+ Americans will greedily eat themselves to death. I think it is important to boldy go where no one has before and have a frank discussion about obesity and gluttony.

Haha that was Grrreat. Although I've not noticed controlling issues for all bigger ppl in general. But I guess if one cannot control themselves, what better way to control someone else?? I really have to give this more thought.

It of course does not apply to all and like any disorder (if you can call it that) some ppl can just be sooo ill that climbing out of that hole is SCARY as PUCK...fear of the unknown. A constant inner battle with oneself.
 
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