thanks evolution nice to see someone on the ball...if he's a beginner he will be able to handle more vol as HIS intensity is low at the moment as he can't recruit the high threshold muscle fibres so recovery doesn';t need to be as long...he'd also be only doing 50% of his max...tell me you can do 6 sets of 50% of your bench everyday and not recover...it's called prioritising...hows that kent??...learn to do your research before replying and questioning other peolles posts...it's not only your opinion that counts contrary to your own beliefs
I Suck At Chinups!!!
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ya il just do as many sets as it takes to get to 25 reps next time i try chins
: ) it sounds like a challenge for me
: ) it sounds like a challenge for me
Not good at chins
I agree, practicing chins is the only way to get better at them. Chins take a lot of coordination, strength, concentration, etc. They work the arms, lats and to a lesser degree forearms, chest and core muscles. Try doing them with hands facing (chin-ups), hands away (pull-ups), and various width grips. Also try hanging from the bar then release one hand and hang by one hand for a while, then change hands.
I have seen a lot of guys who work out with big weights, but can't do but 3 or 4 pull ups! Pull ups, like any exercise that requires you to move your torso through space (squats, deadlifts, pushups, dips...) are the most difficult (and benefitial) exercises because they do require almost the entire body be involved to some degree. A set of chins to failure is much more exhausting than a set of pulldowns to failure!
Another technique is to follow chins with some other exercise with minimal rest, either an oposing exercise like dips or pushups, or a complemetary exercise like bent rows or curls. On all my upper body days I start my workout with a warm up of handstand pushups (12-15 reps), pull ups (12-18 reps), and weighted dips (16-20 reps with 50 pounds added) with no rest between sets. That both warms up and stretches all my upper body and ensures I keep in practice on these important movements.
BTW, I am 51 years old and have been doing these since my teens in high school and the Marines and plan to keep doing them for another 50 years!
I agree, practicing chins is the only way to get better at them. Chins take a lot of coordination, strength, concentration, etc. They work the arms, lats and to a lesser degree forearms, chest and core muscles. Try doing them with hands facing (chin-ups), hands away (pull-ups), and various width grips. Also try hanging from the bar then release one hand and hang by one hand for a while, then change hands.
I have seen a lot of guys who work out with big weights, but can't do but 3 or 4 pull ups! Pull ups, like any exercise that requires you to move your torso through space (squats, deadlifts, pushups, dips...) are the most difficult (and benefitial) exercises because they do require almost the entire body be involved to some degree. A set of chins to failure is much more exhausting than a set of pulldowns to failure!
Another technique is to follow chins with some other exercise with minimal rest, either an oposing exercise like dips or pushups, or a complemetary exercise like bent rows or curls. On all my upper body days I start my workout with a warm up of handstand pushups (12-15 reps), pull ups (12-18 reps), and weighted dips (16-20 reps with 50 pounds added) with no rest between sets. That both warms up and stretches all my upper body and ensures I keep in practice on these important movements.
BTW, I am 51 years old and have been doing these since my teens in high school and the Marines and plan to keep doing them for another 50 years!
I was always told "move your body through space first". Meaning...the first exercises you should do are the ones that require you to moved your whole body...ie...squat, deadlift, pullups, dips, lunges, etc. Those hit the most muscle...and I know that nobody here will disagree.
Personally, I'm trying to improve my pull-ups as well. I am doing sets of weighted pull-ups (using a 25 pound weight). They really challenge me a lot. But, I do as many sets as I have to to hit 20 reps. And then I do a set to failure with no weight (normally either nuetral grip or a chin-up grip so I can do more).
Also, pull-ups are all about control. Make sure to pull your chin above the bar and to squeeze your lats together. Another thing is to try and keep your elbows back. If they start to "pull" towards the front of your body, then it's working more bi's and shoulders then.
Personally, I'm trying to improve my pull-ups as well. I am doing sets of weighted pull-ups (using a 25 pound weight). They really challenge me a lot. But, I do as many sets as I have to to hit 20 reps. And then I do a set to failure with no weight (normally either nuetral grip or a chin-up grip so I can do more).
Also, pull-ups are all about control. Make sure to pull your chin above the bar and to squeeze your lats together. Another thing is to try and keep your elbows back. If they start to "pull" towards the front of your body, then it's working more bi's and shoulders then.
xtonymarsx said:
thanks for the info; ur saying to do chinups first right?
if you elbows start to pull towards the front of your body, then it's working more bi's and shoulder then; when i do chins i like the fact that it works my bis. : )
I do PULL-UPS first. That's when your palms are facing away from you. That's when you want to keep your elbows back. Those are harder than chin-ups. I use chin-ups mainly for burn-outs...because they are easier. If you are going to change your grip a lot, I'd do them in this order
pull-ups, then hammer grip (neutral grip) pull-ups, and then finally chin-ups...that way the movement is progressively easier.
pull-ups, then hammer grip (neutral grip) pull-ups, and then finally chin-ups...that way the movement is progressively easier.
heh thanks for the tips