I have plateaued

Long story short...I am down to 180 from 205 at the begining of the year. The top portion of stomach is showing the outline of a nice 6 pack, but from around my belly button area down a bit is still holding onto some fat. And, this fat does go around my midsection in my lower back.....ye' ole spare tire I guess. Granted, it is small...I would rather it not be there at all. I work out 6 days a week....running(trails, track, street) and i do HIIT 1 day a week. I do this for the better part of an hour each session...sometimes longer. I also lift a bunch. My diet is clean.

I feel like I have gotten to a point where my body has gotten bored with the things I do. is there something I should do to shock the system or to push forward with loosing the weight around my midsection? If I had to guess, I would say I have 12 to 15 pounds there to loose. I'm 6 foot tall......


TIA

Maybe some new core training stuff for me.....I dunno...
 
" I also lift a bunch" says nothing mate. Height and age r important info, plus a more detailed analysis of your weekly program will be a plus. Too general the information, too general the answer, like " do HIIT 3 times a week" :D
 
Long story short...I am down to 180 from 205 at the begining of the year. The top portion of stomach is showing the outline of a nice 6 pack, but from around my belly button area down a bit is still holding onto some fat. And, this fat does go around my midsection in my lower back.....ye' ole spare tire I guess. Granted, it is small...I would rather it not be there at all. I work out 6 days a week....running(trails, track, street) and i do HIIT 1 day a week. I do this for the better part of an hour each session...sometimes longer. I also lift a bunch. My diet is clean.

I feel like I have gotten to a point where my body has gotten bored with the things I do. is there something I should do to shock the system or to push forward with loosing the weight around my midsection? If I had to guess, I would say I have 12 to 15 pounds there to loose. I'm 6 foot tall......


TIA

Maybe some new core training stuff for me.....I dunno...

Read this link as a beginning quest for troubleshooting your personal goal problem:

http://training.fitness.com/nutrition/any-vegetarians-here-33595.html#post294621


Best regards,


Chillen
 
That's some pretty good and motivating stuff right there Chillen.

I do not track my diet at this point. I was....but got to a point where I knew what I was going to eat and when. So, I "knew" what I was eating....

How about chaging the time of the day that you eat lunch? Or, lets say we change the time we eat some snacks?....walnuts, almonds etc etc....will that play with our systems to encoruage our metabloic rate to stay amped?
 
Just an observation.


There are many folks here that simply do not post in many of the post here. yet, they do post regularly in others. Now, the one common denominator that I have seen is that the post that go ignored are normally posted by someone with a lesser post count or rep count. While the post they do post in started by someone who has been around a bit longer, OR, one of the regulars post in it then the rest file suit.

I mean, I have posted several threads to this site and have had very post made to them. And that's fine, but it doesn't do much to encourage regular particpation to the site.

FWIW.....
 
Long story short...I am down to 180 from 205 at the begining of the year. The top portion of stomach is showing the outline of a nice 6 pack, but from around my belly button area down a bit is still holding onto some fat. And, this fat does go around my midsection in my lower back.....ye' ole spare tire I guess. Granted, it is small...I would rather it not be there at all. I work out 6 days a week....running(trails, track, street) and i do HIIT 1 day a week. I do this for the better part of an hour each session...sometimes longer. I also lift a bunch. My diet is clean.

I feel like I have gotten to a point where my body has gotten bored with the things I do. is there something I should do to shock the system or to push forward with loosing the weight around my midsection? If I had to guess, I would say I have 12 to 15 pounds there to loose. I'm 6 foot tall......


TIA

Maybe some new core training stuff for me.....I dunno...

DF:

May you have the foresight to know where you are going, the hindsight to know where you have been and the insight to know when you have gone too far.


May you ALWAYS carry this WISDOM with you--WITHIN Diet and Fitness.

Lets rock with these like thoughts, BABY! :)

When one plateau's, the types of plateau's and its degrees can be different in many ways (and related to one another) and the causes can be a variable blend of different stumuli within the persons life.

The amount of calories and the circumference of DIET can a be major driving factor. You could be eating inappropriately and not allowing enough "proper" REST between workouts.

In other words, it could be not allowing enough recuperation to repair and rebuild your body, and not feeding in the tools of repair with your diet.

To build upon the link I gave you in the previous post:

Having a caloric/macro-nutrient log, personal feelings log (just for yourself), and weight training log have extra-ordinary benefits:

1. You can pinpoint exactly when a progression plateau develops in your training routine, and you know the corresponding rest periods given at this time (between sets of exercises, AND between workouts).

You also know what type of training you have been doing.

2. You can then look at your diet (with a KNOWLEDEABLE EYE) within this period--because you have a very CLOSE approximation of what you had been consuming up to the point of the problem.

3. You also have a history of how you felt leading up to your problem. In addition, you will have a log on your strengths achieved from your training and any physical improvements.

Now, lets say one embarks on "active" learning toward, weight training, diet, and mental factors associated with what they are doing (Is trying to learn all he/she can while exercising at the same time).

One can take this foundation, make applicable changes, and will not be guessing as to prior history and will have something SOLID to work with.

Additionally, if one decides to get a trainer........this information is absolutely PRICELESS.

Its been my opinion from the day I joined the forum, that one needs to learn how to "master their self" within the confinement of the types of bodily feedback (psychological, biological, etc) that one WILL receive when deficit dieting or surplus dieting.

We deal with motivation issues with college and issues in life, and meet and exceed our goals, and pay so little attention to the VERY ISSUE that is the motivation killer in diet and fitness.

ONE MUST TRAIN THEIR MIND and while in development, you will have the tools to work with to deal with psychological, biological, etc, that WILL COME your way. Be not surprised.

This WILL NOT BE THE FIRST TIME nor the last.

It should be no surprise that if you "diet", that the body is going to kick in some psychological and biological defenses to compel you to eat or if one is in surplus, cause barriers in eating enough. And, it should be no suprise that the body can (and could) adjust "metabolically" as you deficit diet/surplus diet, and learning how to adapt along with it (by using knowledge to IMPROVE IT), will assist you.

In addition, it should be no surprise that parts of ones personality (likes and dislikes, etc) can be a inhibitor. We can spend so much time on the basics on diet and fitness, and lose focus on one of the PRIMARY functions that can cause failure: Psychological and biological feed back of the body. Give TIME to gain knowledge on how to deal with them.

Then learn how to apply what you have learned--you WILL NOT be sorry for the time or effort sacrificed.


With this in mind, give the members of this forum the following:

1. What has your diet been like? Your calories and macronutrients? Have you determined your MT Line? What types of deficits have you been including in your diet?

REMEMBER THIS: As your body weight DROPS (as in your present weight loss history)--so do your CALORIE REQUIREMENTS slightly. Have you made any minor adjustments?

Diet can mess with strength and physical progression. Diet can mess with mental attitude, cause depression, and a feeling of being lethargic (to name a few examples). It can also mess with motivation.

In addition the Diet is the first place one looks if there not gaining good weight, or losing fat tissue and the first issue is the amount of calories, and then whether your eating enough nutrients to allow some growth/loss decisions to occur in the body.


2. What specifically has your training been like? The specific exercises, days of rest, etc. The stimulation of muscle growth occurrs within the gym (or the reason for a body change), however, actual growth AND/OR strength occurs during rest.

What you are doing and what you are not doing in your training can mess with strength and physical progression. This too can mess with mental attitude, cause depression, and a feeling of being lethargic (to name a few examples). It can also mess with motivation.

3. What has your physical improvements been like? What has your strength increases been like--leading up to the present. This is one PRIMARY personal motivator and inhibitor of motivation at the same time--dependent on progress toward ones goal.


ALWAYS set time intervals of review and reflection. Do not stick with one routine--too long. Stick with it long enough, but change it every now and then.

Answer my questions.



On a Side Note:

The lower your body fat the harder your body will fight you to maintain it. If one does not make adjustments to compensate for the body's increase fight you will plateau.

Either you increase your fight to combat the bodys ability to make fine adjustments or you will stay the same path. You have to meet and exceed your bodys fight or you will lose every round of the match.

Look, I am just basically some average middle aged man that has just hooked up with with basic and advanced basics of diet and fitness coupled with learning how to manipulate the things learned.

There is really no advanced science about it.

You do NOT need to be a fitness scientist to get low body fat. Either one learns how to deal with the body-mind relationship or go friggen home.........

However, if you cannot afford a trainer.........You do have to learn to be your own trainer.

You already to took one GIANT step toward solving your problem. First you recognized it, second, you are seeking advice and knowledge to solve it. Add in "application", and you will NOT FAIL--EVER.


ROCK ON!



Best wishes to you in life and within fitness,



Chillen
 
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Dayum! I thought I was in church for a moment there......;)


My diet: I suspect that this may be part of my issue. Not from the standpoint of easting to much or consuming poor quailty foods. But from the stand point of being very repeatative with it.

Most of my days start off with 2 eggs cooked in the microwave eaten on a 7 sprouted grain 100% whole wheat muffin. I normally have an apple or banana to go with that and sevarl bottles of water over the next hour or so. I also consume a few real fruit smoothies in the morning throughout the week. If I eat the eggs, the smoothie is passed on, and visa versa. When i say real fruit, I mean real fruit. Raspeberriers, strawberries, bananas, pear, apple, blue berry, black berry etc. Blended depending on the one I want that day. If I use milk it is fat free low sugar milk. More often then not I use water and ice chips when i blen it up.

For s ansack in between meals I will take in walnuts, almonds(all raw), low fat, low sugar no HFCS yogurt, fresh fruit and will even taken a protein shake.

Lunch time is either tuna on 100% whole wheat toast(tuna is not mixed with anything), brown rice and some fruit. If i don't eat tuna I will have while grain pasta with lowest fat/sugar sauce i can find. I will also eat this low fat roast beef or turkey that the deli near me sells. I have even eaten a portion of the turkey you get at the local grocery store that is pre made....but that is very rare.

Dinner is normally extra lean beef patties, grilled chicken, steak tenderloin with sweet potato, brown rice maybe, fresh fruit, fresh veggies.

I eat clean 6 days a week. One day per week I will stray. And when I stray I don't stray to badly....

I will eat BBQ chicken. Or have a slice of pie, maybe a coke or some mixed drinks. Nothing crazy, but definitly a departure from my regular routine.

I do not know what my MT is. Having not documented my habits, I have not made any real changes to my routine yet.

My workout is pretty stright forward.

Monday through Saturday I wake up at 5:30 and either run outside, go to the park, nature trail or hit the treadmill. I warm up for 5 minutes then run for 45 minutes and then walk about another 10. Sometimes I go longer, sometimes I go shorter but at a higher pace or incline.

In the evening I weight train. Monday, wed, and friday is chest, shoulders and legs day. Tues, Thurs and sat is arms, back and core day. I also have the first session each week as the heavy lift day, and the last day is the lighter higher rep day.

I am very happy with the progress if my chest, back, arms, shoulder etc. What I feel I am limited on is core training. I do 5 sets of 25 leg lifts on my power tower. Folowed by 4 sets of 25 leg lifts on my flat bench. I will also do 4 sets of 25 on the decline bench of crunch, crucn and twist and weighed crunch and this thing where I sway from side to side. I will also do a scciors kick and lay on my side and "crunch" for he oblqiues. I will also stand and hold a 45 pound plat and twiat my core, keeping my back straight and bend at various angles.

I drink lots of water each day. I would say 15 or so of the 8 OZ bottles plus a one liter bottle.

I do not take any supplements, but do drink some of the EAS low sugar protein drinks...maybe 2 per day. When I have a smoothie I will mix in some whey protein.

Certain weeks I can feel the burn when I work out. Other times I do not. I try mixing up when I do a various application for the given body part. My strenght has increased, but I feel like I have slowed down a good deal. I had lost pounds steadily over the last few months. So far this month I have lost like .20 pounds. That's it. I can almost feel my body telling me it needs something, but I don't know what it is. I'm not tired. I think I may just be bored.


I can afford a trainer and have been thinking about taking one on. But not yet....after June if I haven't gotten closer to loosing the fat around my belly I was going to look for one at my gym.


I hope this information will tell you something.....
 
Sorry for all the spelling errors in my last post....I am at work and chose not to use spell check :eek:
 
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