I aint complaning but....

FinalQ

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... Since i started this whole healthy eating thing 6 days ago the weight seems to be just dropping off me :S

I mean... im ESTATIC but is this normal? I've gone from 18st6lbs to 17st10lbs in just 6 days from just eating high protein and veg meals, every 3-4 hours, not eating after 8, drinking lots of water, literally no carbs

Am i on the right track???

I also exercised an hour a day for the first 4 days but injured my calf whilst skipping (mum reckons its cuz im so heavy so i need to slow down) so ive rested for the last 2days..

thanks for reading :D x
 
The more weight you have to lose the faster it comes off - at the beginning - especially true if your eating habits prior weren't good...

Not eating after 8 - has no effect on weight loss - it's total calories consumed in a day that count.
Eating every 3 hours -has no effect on weight loss - it's total calories consumed in a day
Vegetables have carbs - so you aren't going totally carb free

I think you need to spend some time reading around the forum.. start with thes tickied threads
 
sounds good to me...i dont see anything out of the ordinary except for such a rapid weight loss...but that could be just because your habits before you started were that bad where a drastic improvement like this is possible...could that make sense?
 
I tried the Atkins diet a long time ago, and that was what happened... at first. The difference on the scale was very dramatic for the first week or so. Once my body got adjusted to the change in nutrient intake (or once I lost some water weight, depending whom you ask), the pounds came off much slower.

I know you didn't mention the Atkins diet, but from what you describe it sounds as if you're going low-carb. If that's the route you want to take (and I hope you've researched the pros and cons thoroughly before doing so), make sure you get some good cookbooks for that kind of diet. The main reason I crashed and burned on the low-carb thing was because I felt so limited in my food choices after a while.
 
not eating after 8 WILL make a difference, especially if you eat crap or high carbs. You only need carbs for energy, and by 8, you will have all the energy stores you need, so the food has a higher tendency to be directly stored as fat. I don't know how big of a difference it will make, but it is a still a good practice.

but, as others have said, the more things you change and the more you have to lose, the faster it will come off in the beginning. Just be careful. Changing everything at once may be a bit of a shock to your system, so if you don't feel well, or feel run down, ease up a bit ... just don't forget to add the changes slowly back in once you feel better.
 
not eating after 8 WILL make a difference, especially if you eat crap or high carbs. You only need carbs for energy, and by 8, you will have all the energy stores you need, so the food has a higher tendency to be directly stored as fat. I don't know how big of a difference it will make, but it is a still a good practice.

No, we can not give a blanket party to the masses, boss man ;) :cheers2:

While there may be some sensitive to carbohydrates (or be a diabetic), this eating carbohydrates after 8PM, is simply a myth. It is the circumference of calories in a 24 hour period that matters (and associated trend history). Additionally, most people have problems following the basic and RAW rules of the traditional calorie deficit, and have some have problems with hunger in the evening, and spacing out meals to allow an appropriate meal in the evening "can" assist in their personal sanity, and keep some within the basic and RAW rules.

I certainly could rock out fat loss eating a hardy 2 servings of oatmeal just a few minutes before bed (oh, this has about 54 grams of carbohydrates)---while traditionally in a calorie deficit, AND "especially" when/if my glucose stores were empty prior to this bowl of oatmeal.

Cannot pull energy from nothing, and if (keeping things equal) there is an "overall" deficit eating these carbohydrates before bed, it creates an environment for tissue loss--despite the carbohydrate calories. We also burn calories while sleeping, and the body is quite active repairing it self, etc, etc. We suddenly do not stop burning calories snoozing at night :)

Additionally, when glucose stores are depleted (for lack of argument) two shortages are thundering inside when a calorie shortage is present: A deficiency in the glucose stores, and one in the face of a calorie deficit. Therefore, when things get flipped (after a period of time in the former), and one provides a calorie surplus, and enough carbohydrates are ingested, most of the carbohydrates ingested will be used to refill the glucose stores, and one could even eat reasonably over the MT-Line, and theoretically not gain any fat (keeping things equal).

When ever I feel the need to eat more, I usually manipulate 2 things: Carbohydrates and exercise to set my self up to more readily absorb the excess calories, and one does this simply through manipulation of diet and exercise. My family can get quit amazed in the amount of food I can consume after a very low carb period. I am only 5' 7" (and going to be 48 this year), and my traditional non-manipulated MT-Line normally is around 2200 to 2600 calories (dependent). After a very low carbohydrate period, I can consume in excess of 4,000 calories, and even feel leaner, meaner, than the day before.

Thus displaying the power of the almighty and powerful diet.

Additionally, when a person starts a carbohydrate emphasis diet (like--hopefully a good "modified" version of Atkins), they experience a heavy loss of water at first, and some can tend to interpret this as tissue loss, when in fact it "may not" be all tissue loss, but simply water. Hence the word HYDRATE in the word Carbohydrate. Remove carbohydrates, remove water, and since muscle is primarily water, it can effect their appearance.

Additionally, when they become successful with this diet approach (and lose good tissue), they tend to get lost because they had no plan on what "to do" when they got off this rather abnormal diet, and approached their normal lifestyle. When a plan of attack, before, during, and after, would have solved many personal complications.

Having a party in the head, and learning to master your strengths and weakness, brings in the winning team of success.


Best wishes

Chillen
 
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not eating after 8 WILL make a difference, especially if you eat crap or high carbs.

Is this from experience, research or what?

I've yet to see a case where this really made a difference unless a particular client had the proclivity to over eat in the PM hours.

If calories and macros are controlled though, net for the day, I'd have to disagree in a vast majority of cases.
 
I think you are losing water weight because of the no carbs. Whoever was talking about the atkins diet, thats exactly what happend to me to, like 10+ pounds in a couple weeks... and all veeeeery easy to put back on... (but isn't it all i guess) And as far as the no carb diet goes... when and if you add carbs back into your diet, you may even start seeing slower/no results for a little while. And maybe not. But one should get used to eating in a way that they could see themselves doing long term.
 
The basic argument is:

AllCdnBoy) make you gain weight. carbs cause your body to create insulin and force your body to store the energy as fat, since you won't be burning it off while sleeping

Chillin) it's fine. as long as your calorie intake is lower than what you burn, you will lose weight.

My argument to Chillin is if you are having a late night snack, the chances are you aren't going to be working out afterward, so you can't burn it off. What form is that energy going to be stored as? Fat.

From personal experience, I bought a Wii Fit a couple months ago and generally use it first thing in the morning. If I snack the previous night (as in 1/2 - full meal size snacking), I find that my weight goes up a tiny bit ... anywhere from 1-3 lbs.

that said, my weight goes back down by the next day, as long as I don't snack. I am also very active, so that might explain why the weight comes back down too. It's funny cause, even on the Wii, if you gain weight from the previous day, it'll ask you why you think it went up and one of the choices is late-night snacking.

I've read quite a few articles on the subject, trying to find the "truth", but both arguments have very strong points ... here are some articles that may help you decide. I honestly don't know which side is right. I'm just taking the side of it being bad because that's what makes the most sense to me.

For:



Against:

Bodybuilding.com forum - one guy wrote: MYTH 50 times in a post. No argument provided, so I'm not linking it.
 
The point is, if your net energetic state is negative, or balanced even, how are you storing fat simply b/c you eat at night?

Hint:

I've, for prolonged periods of time, eaten a large chunk of my calories in the PM hours. It meant jack all in terms of fat gain. Why? Because I was in a caloric deficit.

Check out intermittent fasting.
 
For whatever reason I tend to shed pounds like mad the first week or two of every serious weight loss attempt no matter what approach I'm taking. I'm sure it has a lot to do with my diet prior to changing eating habits, and no doubt it's mostly water weight.

In addition to what's already been said I think the important thing to keep in mind is that the wacky rapid weight loss won't be the norm. The scale is a pretty poor judge of progress... at least on a week to week basis. One week you might lose 6 pounds, the next you might gain 1 and half, the next you might lose 2. Don’t be discouraged by low numbers after seeing those high ones. :D
 
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