Cohen's Lifestyle Hungry? Consultants advice...

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nickychick

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I recieved this from my consultant as I was feeling a little hungry mid morning and late afternoon. It's strange but I am not feeling hungry anymore and the only thing that has changed is time. I have re-started Cohen's and been on it now for nearly one month.

I thought this might be helpful for some people struggling with hunger? :cheers2:


Hunger


If followed 100%, your Eating Plan is all about minimising hunger and maximising Human Growth Hormone and Serotonin stimulation, so that we feel good, are not hungry and shrink and repair as efficiently as possible.

Firstly, is it hunger or cravings?

If it is cravings, you may like to try taking some Chromium. It will help to keep the insulin level under control and this in turn should stop the cravings. So you might increase your dose of this very important mineral.

If it is hunger, here are a few ideas that may help:
Water intake An average person needs to drink between 2.5 and 3 litres of water every day.

Toxins from the fat cells go into the blood when the fat is turned into energy, if the blood is not cleaned by constant amounts of water, the body will slow down the process resulting in hunger, either you wash the toxins out with water or the body will try to put it back into the fat cells, so you are not being "fed" from the fat cells. Drinking all your water is the secret!

Specific Proteins Only eat the foods as indicated on the lists. Never assume anything is equivalent in value to replace a food type. Their chemical content is different Vegetables and Fruits

  • Mozzarella must be in a block or chunk, not grated
  • Baked ricotta is not allowed
  • No dried fruits or fruit juice
  • Natural yoghurt only, no flavours
  • Accurate food scales Does your scale clearly indicate 1 gram intervals? Your quantities need to be weighed perfectly. Every gram counts!
  • Weighing food raw No processed, precooked, battered or crumbed food is allowed
  • Crispbreads Only have 2 at a time and 2.5 hours must be kept between having 2 crispbreads
  • Skipping meals/ You must eat every meal and every gram as per your Program
  • Eating less
  • Medication Are you taking any new medications? Cough mixtures and lozenges can contain sugar and alcohol which will affect your Program
  • Taking HRT, Zoloft, Zurtich and Inositol can increase appetite
  • Multivitamin It is very important that you take a multivitamin and mineral supplement.
  • Remember it must not contain: fruit, plants, lactose, gluten/wheat, added sugar, preservatives, yeast or more than 25mg of B6. You may like to increase the amount you are taking, because when you are on a rapid fat loss Program your body uses more vitamins and minerals than usual, and our food today has not got the same amount as it might have had some 30 odd years ago
  • Homeopathic Remedies Make sure they are not in an alcohol base or contain any forbidden ingredients. If you are not sure, ask your consultant to check for you
  • Diet or Food You may not take any diet pills, appetite suppressants or food supplements
  • 5 hours between meals It is imperative that you keep 5 hours between your main meals to make sure proteins are not mixed
  • Sugar free gum Gum must be sugar free and you may have 5 pieces per day. Do not chew them for too long as this may make you hungry. Fruit flavours are not allowed.
  • Sugar free lollies are not allowed
  • Herbs/Spices Make sure you are weighing any fresh herbs you use as part of your vegetable allowance
  • Mixed herbs and spices are not allowed as some have preservatives, extra salt, starches etc… Make sure there is no MSG
  • Have Salt, Chilli, Ginger, Paprika, Turmeric, Curry, Garlic and Cinnamon in limited amounts, as too much will stimulate insulin
  • You may have a maximum of 1 teaspoon collectively of all condiments and
  • herbs in a day Not allowed – Ginseng, Blended spices, Horsetail, Cayenne pepper or Vanilla
  • Diet drinks Must be caffeine free Diet Coke and Pepsi
  • Artificial Sweeteners Hermesetas Original and Sugarine are the only ones allowed. Other artificial sweeteners are sweetened with a sugar product
  • Eating Out/Functions Any deviation from your Program will cause hunger
  • Physical activity Dr Cohen does not take your physical activity into account when preparing your Program, if you are feeling hungry you will need to cut back for a short time
  • Coffee and Tea Drinking too much coffee and tea may make you hungry
  • Breakfast (Yoghurt) Yoghurt and fruit for breakfast may not be as sustaining as other proteins. Rather try an egg or cheese and vegetables for breakfast
  • Apples 10% of people find apples make them hungry because they set off the insulin, while 90% it blocks the insulin. If you think they may be a cause of hunger, try some of the other fruits for a while
  • Keep the biscuits and fruits for the times you know you will need them most, also the diet fizzy drink that you are allowed.
  • You might like to plan a fourth 'meal'. Usually the afternoons are the problem, so have a non-protein early ‘meal’ at this time. Your Cohen’s Lifestyle Clinic Recipe Book has some great ideas such as:
  • Baked Apple, Orange Salad, Salt and Vinegar Chips or Apple Crumble.
  • Trust these ideas will help pinpoint something that could be causing you to get hungry and help you to
  • get through this difficult stage.
 
Thanks for posting this nicky. A very comprehensive list with items that I was not aware of. Like eating garlic in limited amounts - I didn't know that! I can eat a lot of garlic (oven roasted) because when roasted, it's really yummy. Plus, there was a Cohen newsletter where they were recommending that you include more garlic into your diet because it was good for you? But if the theory is that it sets up insulin which therefore makes you more hungry - if I don't feel hungry after consuming garlic in my diet, it should be ok?

I also don't feel hungry after eating apples, I feel satisfied and full. Thank goodness! I love my apples!
 
Not a problem Dietgrl I think anything from my consultant that helps another is worthy of posting!

I eat about two cloves of garlic a day and find that it is fine. I know with onion your only supose to have 20g a day to stop you producing too much insulin also. I think the dried spices and herbs are the once to watch out for as the fresh stuff is more bulky as they have to condense herbs with maximum flavour into a smaller quantity.

It's funny how there are indescrepenices between certian consultants but this is a Cohen's PDF that I copied and pasted so it is straight from the horses mouth :)

xx
 
I wouldn't take the info about garlic too much to heart. Animal studies suggest that garlic may lower blood sugar and increase the release of insulin, but studies in humans do not confirm this effect.

I'm also curious why the form of mozzarella matters? Changing it shape does not change it's composition. Maybe it is suggesting it is absorbed faster?

5 hours between meals It is imperative that you keep 5 hours between your main meals to make sure proteins are not mixed? Huh?

I guess I just don't get this 'diet' but hell if it is working for you, cool. I just don't understand the science.
 
Be careful about this one:
Homeopathic Remedies Make sure they are not in an alcohol base or contain any forbidden ingredients. If you are not sure, ask your consultant to check for you
Suddenly stopping a homeopathic remedy could result in a severe overdose!
 
The form of Mozzarella counts because the pre-grated mozzarella usually has gluten filler.
Re the homeopathic medicines:- If something is not allowed on the program(eg alcohol), having it will almost certainly slow down your weight-loss. It does not matter that some people don't "get" Cohen's, what matters to those who are following the program is that they don't sabotage their weight-loss by having something that will mess it up. The program is strict & requires determination & diligence. Deviations, whether accidental or deliberate usually set you back a week, which of course, adds another week to your weight-loss journey.

The 5hrs apart is so that proteins are not mixed.

I think that this list is useful for those who are experiencing hunger still, after the initial couple of weeks. For those who are not then continue on as you are but follow the program 100%. It really varies what makes some people hungry & others not. If I eat apples with my yoghurt(ie protein) that never makes me hungry but if I have an apple before my next meal (ie on an empty stomach) that gets the gastric juices going & makes me feel really hungry. So an apple just after a meal (ie with protein) will rarely make me feel hungry. Simple really & very logical.

This list is useful as it is mostly reinforcing the initial instructions which we all should read again & again. It is amazing what you forget. Don't overdo the spices. I used to wonder why not? Re the coffee it is also very dehydrating.
Another thing my consultant told me, as I was approaching re-feed & starting to get really hungry, was to mix the order of my meals around. So I did this for a while. I would have Meal 2 for breakfast, Meal 1 for lunch, meal 3 for dinner for eg. or other combos. This did the trick for me.

I have never really seriously analysed the program, as frankly, I put my faith in it. Not blind faith but it seemed sound & I could see that it worked. If I had thought that it was unsound or unhealthy there is no way I would have done it. I know it works & I know my body loves it & I feel really healthy. I eat so much better than almost anyone else I know these days. It has taught me a lot about balance.

Weight-loss is not easy. One of the biggest hurdles is our mind & it's ability to limit us. Having support is very valuable.
I offer my support to anyone on their weight-loss journey, whatever path you choose, to get there. We all deserve to be slim, happy & healthy.
Thanks London Darling for this thread!
Cheers, Cate
 
Thanks for this Cate - I too usually have my apples after meals or between meals so I understand that I don't get the hunger pangs that some people do.
 
The form of Mozzarella counts because the pre-grated mozzarella usually has gluten filler.
Re the homeopathic medicines:- If something is not allowed on the program(eg alcohol), having it will almost certainly slow down your weight-loss. It does not matter that some people don't "get" Cohen's, what matters to those who are following the program is that they don't sabotage their weight-loss by having something that will mess it up. The program is strict & requires determination & diligence. Deviations, whether accidental or deliberate usually set you back a week, which of course, adds another week to your weight-loss journey.

The 5hrs apart is so that proteins are not mixed.

I think that this list is useful for those who are experiencing hunger still, after the initial couple of weeks. For those who are not then continue on as you are but follow the program 100%. It really varies what makes some people hungry & others not. If I eat apples with my yoghurt(ie protein) that never makes me hungry but if I have an apple before my next meal (ie on an empty stomach) that gets the gastric juices going & makes me feel really hungry. So an apple just after a meal (ie with protein) will rarely make me feel hungry. Simple really & very logical.

This list is useful as it is mostly reinforcing the initial instructions which we all should read again & again. It is amazing what you forget. Don't overdo the spices. I used to wonder why not? Re the coffee it is also very dehydrating.
Another thing my consultant told me, as I was approaching re-feed & starting to get really hungry, was to mix the order of my meals around. So I did this for a while. I would have Meal 2 for breakfast, Meal 1 for lunch, meal 3 for dinner for eg. or other combos. This did the trick for me.

I have never really seriously analysed the program, as frankly, I put my faith in it. Not blind faith but it seemed sound & I could see that it worked. If I had thought that it was unsound or unhealthy there is no way I would have done it. I know it works & I know my body loves it & I feel really healthy. I eat so much better than almost anyone else I know these days. It has taught me a lot about balance.

Weight-loss is not easy. One of the biggest hurdles is our mind & it's ability to limit us. Having support is very valuable.
I offer my support to anyone on their weight-loss journey, whatever path you choose, to get there. We all deserve to be slim, happy & healthy.
Thanks London Darling for this thread!
Cheers, Cate

Ok, so it isn't about the mozzarella, it's about prepackaged mozzarella. I get mozzarella grated at a deli off the whole round.

Understand my questions is I want to know why. Why is mixing proteins bad? What is the science behind it? Has there been studies and why is the information not more mainstream?

I'm not the type to take information at face value. Why are the spices bad? If spices are bad, then curry is bad. Curry is used by most of the world, some of it heavily (india, Japan, middle east) yet their weight on average is no where near ours. I'm just curious as to why. I want to know the reasons.
 
Ok, so it isn't about the mozzarella, it's about prepackaged mozzarella. I get mozzarella grated at a deli off the whole round.

Understand my questions is I want to know why. Why is mixing proteins bad? What is the science behind it? Has there been studies and why is the information not more mainstream?

I'm not the type to take information at face value. Why are the spices bad? If spices are bad, then curry is bad. Curry is used by most of the world, some of it heavily (india, Japan, middle east) yet their weight on average is no where near ours. I'm just curious as to why. I want to know the reasons.

Hi Jericho, That's fair enough. I don't know the answers though. The spices are not bad but are to be used in moderation. Curry is not bad but a lot of curry powders also have gluten filler in them. I have never been curious about the reasons behind any of the program but can understand that others may be. I'm much more interested in people & what they do & providing moral support whenever I can. Cheers, Cate
 
Whya re we not aloud baked rocotta? I just made a ricotta cheescake (all cohens ingrediants, of course) and had it in the oven for about 2 minuits before i saw this post and quicky took it out and popped it into the fridge!
 
Hi MiniMouse.

Re the baked ricotta -- I think they mean we shouldn't buy baked ricotta?? :)
As far as I know we can bake it ourselves..

Xx
 
Pre-baked Ricotta is not allowed for the same reason as pre-cooked meats. The measurements vary a lot between cooked & raw. Cheers, Cate
 
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