Hunger - how do you cope?

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but even if I did eat all of that stuff, I doubt it would make me not hungry.
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Honestly those are the key words.

You have no interest in being healthy, you're not even going to try, and you wouldn't approach it with an open mind anyway.

So. Whatever. Good luck to you. I hope you enjoy going thru the rest of your life feeling hungry and yo-yoing in your weight.
 
Kayshiz said:
I was gonna post and continue to argue a healthy point to you alongside Kara and everyone else, but if your not able to tell the difference between real hunger and and emotional hunger (and you can say you know the difference all day long, but if you really have an emotional problem with food, well, your not gonna know what that feel like anyway) Then you are not going to listen to anyone's advice.

Congrats on the weight loss. I'm sure you will be very "skinny fat" when you get to your goal weight. Which isn't healthy by the way.

The way your going about losing weight, and how you talk about it, (especially the vinegar thing) I am worried you are using pro-ana sites for weight loss tips, I hope I'm wrong, but if this is true, you should discuss it with your doctor, as it is obviously also unhealthy.

Last thing:
FYI. The food you listed was about 1000 calories short of 4500.
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OK so, when I'm hungry, it's not real? It's just my imagination? Well what am I supposed to do about that? Tell it to go away? If my hunger really is just emotional then why are you recommending foods in the first place? Shouldn't you be recommending a psychiatrist?

And the way I'm losing weight is just fine according to my doctor. I'm allowed to restrict nearly as much as I want until I get down to a certain weight then I have to up my intake. He seems like a good doctor and I don't know why you think I would suddenly believe advice on the internet over his.

And I've only tried the vinegar trick 3 times. Why would that be pro-ana? Vinegar used to be taken as a weight loss supplement in the old days without side effects and it has health benefits

All I asked was "how do you cope with hunger?" and you act like I asked "how do you kill babies?" It seems to me, the ones getting emotional, are you. Why are you so vested in trying to convince me I'm not really hungry? How could you even know how I feel from such a simple post? Why the insults? What did I do to you?
 
Jacklinger said:
OK so, when I'm hungry, it's not real?
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If I ate 4000 calories a day and felt hungry after, day after day after day, you bet your ass I would be in my Doctors office (and not a doctor that told me it was ok to eat so little in a day, especially after I told him the kind of hunger pangs I was feeling after binging!). If I didn't get a good answer I would be at another doctor, or a nutritionist or yes, a psychiatrist because that isn't right.

Were not saying you don't FEEL hungry.

We are saying you SHOULDN'T feel hungry.

This isn't insults, it's concern.

You should be CONCERNED about the way your body feels, not trying to find ways to avoid an almost certain medical issue.
 
Kayshiz said:
If I ate 4000 calories a day and felt hungry after, day after day after day, you bet your ass I would be in my Doctors office (and not a doctor that told me it was ok to eat so little in a day, especially after I told him the kind of hunger pangs I was feeling after binging!). If I didn't get a good answer I would be at another doctor, or a nutritionist or yes, a psychiatrist because that isn't right.

Were not saying you don't FEEL hungry.

We are saying you SHOULDN'T feel hungry.

This isn't insults, it's concern.

You should be CONCERNED about the way your body feels, not trying to find ways to avoid an almost certain medical issue.
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Well my insurance sort of limits my choices of doctors and the one I have says there's no cure for excessive hunger pangs. He told me my choices were either restrict by choice or gastric bypass surgery. If you know of a medication that acts as a reliable appetite suppressant, let me know and I will bring it to the attention of my doctor. Maybe he will prescribe it to me.
 
Jacklinger said:
If you know of a medication that acts as a reliable appetite suppressant, let me know
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You don't need an appetite suppressant. And if my insurance won't let me switch doctor's and I couldn't go anywhere else, I would definitely try to incorporate different foods into my diet that would naturally stop my hunger pangs, like more protein and fiber. Fiber is awesome by the way.

But since your so set on eating so little everyday I fear you will never not feel hungry...
 
Protein and fiber make me feel hungry. My stomach can be full and I still feel hungry. I feel it in my lower gut rather than my stomach. The only thing that seems to sate me for very long is fats. But I can't eat much of that without gaining weight so I'm back to just starving.
 
It would seem that things are really going in a circle and people are getting kind of frustrated and getting a bit curt with their responses.

My suggestion to the original poster here is you are asking for advice, perhaps consider taking some of that advice. People have given you all the common sense solutions that exist but you come back with why it doesn't work or why you won't bother trying it.

There are many frustrations along the way. I am having a frustrating day myself right now because I am low on energy and struggling a bit with my routine. I do understand how frustration plays with your mind and has a tendency to make you want to stop trying things and stop thinking of things logically. I lived that way for many years and even with as much progress as I have made I would be a liar to say it still doesn't take constant effort to maintain positivity and that willingness to keep trying every last thing and keep pushing for success. It's just one of the never ending struggles of life.

I think maybe you are looking for a quick fix or some crazy trick that's going to make it better like your vinegar thing, but there is no folk remedy that anyone can prescribe for you. Put simply your situation makes no sense at all to anyone including myself. It boggles the mind to conceive that your stomach is going to be rumbling and you are going to be deep down hungry after 5000 calories AND still gain massive amounts of weight.

The best I can suggest to you is try some of the healthy eating tips people have given you here, because if you are waiting for the magic bullet to come along and someone to tell you dusting your toes with baking soda and throwing salt over your shoulder will fix the problem it's not going to happen. Common sense advice is as good as it's going to get.
 
My stomach can be full and I still feel hungry.
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That's emotional hunger, not true hunger.

Until you accept that emotional hunger and emotional eating exist, then you're not going to make any progress.
 
I have taken the advice I've seen so far. I took it 10 years ago. Didn't work. Lost some weight, but eventually gained it all back. Why? Because I'm hungry. I can feel it in my stomach. It's a burning, gnawing, sensation that never completely goes away even when I let myself binge. Why would I just make that up? What do I have to gain by lying about feeling hungry? Why would I overeat when I'm not hungry? So am I the only one in the world that experiences excessive hunger and appetite? How did all of you get fat if not by hunger? Why would anyone eat if they're not hungry? It makes no sense to me.

If you guys are never hungry very much, then it must be very easy for you to lose weight. If my hunger is emotional, why do I feel it in my stomach? Even if it IS emotional, it makes it no less real! I still have to figure out how to cope with it! That's all I'm asking! Why is that so complicated?
 
Jacklinger said:
I can feel it in my stomach. It's a burning, gnawing, sensation that never completely goes away even when I let myself binge. Why would I just make that up? What do I have to gain by lying about feeling hungry?
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OMG sir.

You said it yourself. If you still have this feeling when your stomach is full nothing else we tell you is going to help you. No appetite suppressant, no amount of vinegar, nothing.

If your Doctor isn't listening to you, you need to switch doctors.

Maybe you have acid reflux, maybe it's in your head, maybe you don't drink enough water, maybe you are eating 3g of protein and half a cup of veggies and feel like that is what you need to feel full, I don't know.



Do you understand that if you say you are FULL and feel HUNGRY, yea, it's at least possible it is in your head?

I just don't get while you are more concerned with finding a quick fix to ignore the problem, then a solution to a possible health problem.
 
Jacklinger said:
I have taken the advice I've seen so far. I took it 10 years ago. Didn't work. Lost some weight, but eventually gained it all back. Why? Because I'm hungry. I can feel it in my stomach. It's a burning, gnawing, sensation that never completely goes away even when I let myself binge. Why would I just make that up? What do I have to gain by lying about feeling hungry? Why would I overeat when I'm not hungry? So am I the only one in the world that experiences excessive hunger and appetite? How did all of you get fat if not by hunger? Why would anyone eat if they're not hungry? It makes no sense to me.

If you guys are never hungry very much, then it must be very easy for you to lose weight. If my hunger is emotional, why do I feel it in my stomach? Even if it IS emotional, it makes it no less real! I still have to figure out how to cope with it! That's all I'm asking! Why is that so complicated?
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Are you even sure what you're feeling is hunger? I'd say it sounds more like stomach pain than hunger. Hunger is mental condition triggered by your brain based on processing signals from your body. You have eaten so few calories I'm surprised you haven't shrunken your stomach capacity a little. Practical tips. I drink lots of bottled fizzy water like pellegrino, I drink green tea which is a good appetite suppressor. Running actually makes me less hungry. After an hour run I'll have a cup of skim milk and a banana and feel good for hours.

Also, what are you doing whilst you are hungry? Are you just sitting there dreaming of food? Get out and do something to get your mind off it. Walk, ride a bike or get a hobby. Find a weight loss buddy like the have for AA, someone you can call to get your mind off it.
 
I'm totally baffled that you don't understand the concept of emotional eating and flat out refuse to accept that it exists. It seems like you want to hear a particular answer and have closed off your mind to anything else.

I really don't have anything else to say except good luck to you with your weight loss journey. You'll need it.
 
Jacklinger said:
How did all of you get fat if not by hunger? Why would anyone eat if they're not hungry?
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Personally? Bad habits. Good food. Good, good food that I didn't want to stop eating just because I felt full. Grazing on complete and utter junk the entire day due to a whole slew of reasons: boredom, emotional upsets, yadda yadda. It had absolutely nothing to do with hunger for me. Just wrong choices, which I'm pretty damn determined to make right. Better late than never. ^.^
 
I have definitely felt full and eaten more. It turns out you can have a surprising amount of extra space if the food tastes good enough ;) Like after stuffing myself on Indian food, if we end up with mango pudding somehow there's extra room... (Interestingly, studies suggest that we eat more when there's a greater variety of food. I.e. if you fill up on mashed potato & meatloaf, and then someone comes by with some ribs you're more likely to feel a desire to eat the new food than extra meatloaf)
 
Jacklinger said:
It's 3:00pm, you've had all the calories you're supposed to have for the day, and you're starving. What do you do?
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You change your eating habits. If you eat your recommended daily intake of calories by 3PM, you need to seriously adjust your eating habits if you want to lose weight.
 
caddyguy said:
Are you even sure what you're feeling is hunger? I'd say it sounds more like stomach pain than hunger. Hunger is mental condition triggered by your brain based on processing signals from your body. You have eaten so few calories I'm surprised you haven't shrunken your stomach capacity a little. Practical tips. I drink lots of bottled fizzy water like pellegrino, I drink green tea which is a good appetite suppressor. Running actually makes me less hungry. After an hour run I'll have a cup of skim milk and a banana and feel good for hours.

Also, what are you doing whilst you are hungry? Are you just sitting there dreaming of food? Get out and do something to get your mind off it. Walk, ride a bike or get a hobby. Find a weight loss buddy like the have for AA, someone you can call to get your mind off it.
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Well if what I'm feeling isn't hunger, then, if feels like hunger. What else could it be? It's a burning sensation in my stomach that literally feels like something is pulling on my innards and makes me insatiable.

I do most of that stuff and yes, it works some. I drink coffee, will listen to music, read, go for a walk, etc. But sometimes I just run out stuff to distract me and the hunger gets really severe. I was wondering if anyone else here had a similar problem and had some good advice.

Thanks for the suggestions!
 
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