Hunger - how do you cope?

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Jacklinger said:
Of course I have to control my hunger.
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DING DING DING!!! We have a winner!!! Johnny, tell him what he's wooooon...

Well, Pat, Jacklinger is going home today with a brand new, state of the art reality check.

Dude, yes...YOU have to control your hunger. YOU - not a "magic food" or a special diet or some super cool secret that someone's not telling you, but YOU.

Nothing you eat and no diet you try is going to help you cope with your hunger. YOU are the only one who can do that. And, if you keep asking why, then you obviously need to seek professional psychiatric help, because, as I said in my first post in this thread, it all boils down to willpower.

I assume your kitchen is stocked with food, correct? Well, if you truly can't cope with being hungry, then you'd be eating everything in your kitchen on a constant basis, leaving your cupboards bare and empty. Yet, I can pretty much guarantee that you have a plentiful amount of food in your house. Why? Because, you can control your hunger and you are controlling your hunger...you just refuse to acknowledge it.

If you honestly couldn't cope with being hungry, you would be stuffing your face on a constant basis. Yet, you're not. You're not constantly shoveling food into your mouth because you are exhibiting willpower. If there is a table of food in front of you, it doesn't mean that you have to eat it. So, if you don't eat it, then you are using willpower to do so. Hungry or not, if you don't eat food, you are exhibiting willpower. So, you have the willpower...you just don't want to use it.

You're just looking for every sort of excuse under the sun so you can feel as if you don't have to feel any sense of personal responsibility for your actions.

My advice?

Grow up.

I got hungry around midnight last night; really hungry. But, I didn't go downstairs and fix myself a plate of food. How did I cope with being hungry? I toughed it out. I used a little bit of willpower and kept my ass parked in front of my laptop instead of parking it at the kitchen table. Seriously, it's not that hard.
 
ChefChiTown said:
DING DING DING!!! We have a winner!!! Johnny, tell him what he's wooooon...

Well, Pat, Jacklinger is going home today with a brand new, state of the art reality check.

Dude, yes...YOU have to control your hunger. YOU - not a "magic food" or a special diet or some super cool secret that someone's not telling you, but YOU.

Nothing you eat and no diet you try is going to help you cope with your hunger. YOU are the only one who can do that. And, if you keep asking why, then you obviously need to seek professional psychiatric help, because, as I said in my first post in this thread, it all boils down to willpower.

I assume your kitchen is stocked with food, correct? Well, if you truly can't cope with being hungry, then you'd be eating everything in your kitchen on a constant basis, leaving your cupboards bare and empty. Yet, I can pretty much guarantee that you have a plentiful amount of food in your house. Why? Because, you can control your hunger and you are controlling your hunger...you just refuse to acknowledge it.

If you honestly couldn't cope with being hungry, you would be stuffing your face on a constant basis. Yet, you're not. You're not constantly shoveling food into your mouth because you are exhibiting willpower. If there is a table of food in front of you, it doesn't mean that you have to eat it. So, if you don't eat it, then you are using willpower to do so. Hungry or not, if you don't eat food, you are exhibiting willpower. So, you have the willpower...you just don't want to use it.

You're just looking for every sort of excuse under the sun so you can feel as if you don't have to feel any sense of personal responsibility for your actions.

My advice?

Grow up.

I got hungry around midnight last night; really hungry. But, I didn't go downstairs and fix myself a plate of food. How did I cope with being hungry? I toughed it out. I used a little bit of willpower and kept my ass parked in front of my laptop instead of parking it at the kitchen table. Seriously, it's not that hard.
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Finally. Some good advice. You go to your computer sometimes when you get hungry? I do that too but I already spend so much time in front of a computer at work every day that sometimes I'm just not in the mood.

And, yes, I think this is the 4th or 5th time you mentioned willpower. No need to continue with that. And I believe I agreed with that every time. Thanks.

Based on the general content of your post, I don't really think you've understood much of what I've said so far. You seem to think I'm an absolute imbecile incapable of rational thought, and I'm beginning to think you may seek to offend me. You can't expect me to take you seriously if you can't even show basic courtesy can you?
 
Jericho said:
*sigh*

the problem is you are trying 'every diet under the sun'. Ever try just normally cutting your calories? Here are some questions for you...height, weight, age. Let's get your BMR and find out how many calories you need to eat. Then let's find out how many calories and foods you are eating now.

ANSWER 1: You are cutting too many calories.

You have connected the urge to eat with emotions such as stress (you already mentioned your stress level), sadness, depression, anger or boredom. Until you break that link, which first requires understanding what it is that you linked, you will never escape it. Write a food diet that includes the emotion you have when you eat. When you start feeling hungry, grab a pen and paper and just write. It's not the words that are important, it is the action to break the link.

ANSWER 2: You, like most people, have an emotional connection to eating and hunger.

The reason people get fat is because it takes discipline to break the cycle. You can only do it when you are truely ready. You have to accept your weaknesses before you can fight them. You think you are the only person who keeps getting hungry when trying to lose weight? Of course you aren't. Those who lose weight learn that they just have to push through it. Damn, I'm a bit hungry right now but part of that I know is simply I am at a boring moment in my work day. I have some things I can snack on but I'm holding off. It's not easy. You just have to keep forward.

ANSWER 3: Quit your bitching, grow some balls and push ahead. Quit looking to blame anything but yourself.

Mod or not, I'm seeing the same thing over and over. 'what you say doesn't work for me'. We keep giving different answer, we keep giving the same answer. Why? CAUSE IT IS TRUE. It has come to the point that someone has to hit you over the head with a 2x4 with the word CLUE burned into it. You have not accepted the simple fact YOU WILL BE HUNGRY. Don't look for a special food or plan, just know you will get hungry and distract yourself with something else to do.

Oh and if your doctor is suggesting a gastric bypass, get a better damn doctor cause he is an idiot. Weight loss surgery has 0 to do with hunger. You think you are going to not still have an emotional tie to eating with a lapband? You think you are hungry now...


And yes, I'm being blunt and rude right now cause maybe, just maybe, you will realize that the only persona who can control your hunger is you. Show some inner strength. I know you have it, now show it and stop being a slave to your self-indulging emotions.
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I don't think you've read hardly any of my posts all the way through. I know I'm going to be hungry, that's why I asked how to cope with it.

Yes I have tried cutting my calories. That's what I'm doing now. And it leaves me feeling hungry, hence why I asked how to cope with it. I'm not cutting too many calories because my doctor already approved of them. But as I stated before, if I eat anything less than 5000 calories, I tend to feel very hungry, and I feel no less hunger eating 1500 calories than I do eating 1000, so I might as well eat as little as possible.

I'm curious that the nature of our conversation has turned from "you shouldn't be getting hungry at 3:00" to "of course you will be hungry." Did you notice that, too? I bet you did and you're just trying to test me. Well it won't work. You shan't confuse me.

And I don't recall talking about my stress levels, but maybe I did, this has been a long thread after all. But I'm still not willing to accept that my hunger is emotional. I am hungry independent of whatever emotions I may or may not be feeling. If I really was an emotional eater, then why would I constantly feel hungry throughout each day instead of experiencing cravings and urges at specific times? I suppose it's possible that I'm feeling one steady emotion without end. What would that be? Is indifference an emotion? I'm not sure and I don't care...... I can certainly appreciate why you're so concerned with emotional eating though because you seem to get very emotional without much prodding.

As for my doctor, I'm seeing him this Friday. And I would be silly to get a new doctor based on advice from the internet. Doesn't this forum advocate gastric bypass and lap-bands anyway? Why are you condemning them? I see several pro-surgery posts and even a section dedicated to it.

As for the rest of your post: I never asked for a special food plan, or a way to get rid of hunger (cope and cure are different things), nor would I tolerate being struck with a blunt object. And I won't address you references to my genitals out of respect for the forum.
 
Kayshiz said:
You were a kid! That was like what? 17 years ago? Your body was changing, you were growing, of course you started to feel hungry and you ate more. No one is saying you didn't try, but is it not LOGICAL that perhaps what you were doing as a kid to lose weight wasn't perfect and maybe using the knowledge you gained in the last like...17 more years of your life... might actually help you accomplish your goal in a way that doesn't make you feel insane "hunger" all the time?
Is it not even worth giving it one more shot to do it the way that you yourself know is successful for literally hundreds of thousands of people, and will help you keep it off the longest compared to other ways of losing weight?
Really?
Not even a little?

Really?
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If nothing else was working, I might. But currently calorie restriction seems to be working quite well. I was just hoping for some advice on how to cope with hunger rather than being told to abandon it completely for something that I've already tried before.


Kayshiz said:
:banghead:

Worst analogy ever.

Everything in that statement explains how you feel about weight loss and how stubborn you are! You look at everything from a completely backwards perspective.

If someone told me they made a bridge out of widgets after I explained I could not make a bridge out of widgets, yes, I would call shenanigans.

If that person then showed me the bridge that had been there for years, maybe a few before and after pictures of it's construction, and then gave me a detailed blueprint of how to construct my own widget bridge (with room for modification because yes, my valley is slightly different shaped then their valley was before he started) I would believe that a widget bridge was possible. Nay, I would be even more concerned at their obvious ability to construct a widget when I could not AND after looking back I'd realize all I did was stand around bitching, drinking Guinness and throwing widgets into my valley...
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My valley is on Uranus where each widget has the weight of an SUV and corrodes in the nitrogen heavy atmosphere. I'm currently trying polititanimer sprockets and they seem to be working but I still get hungry. Not the 400x series polititanimer sprockets, but the 800x series. Those are cheaper in bulk. I'm glad widgets work for you though. BTW I don't like Guinness.
 
Jacklinger said:
You can't expect me to take you seriously if you can't even show basic courtesy can you?
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Your response to my first post seemed extremely sarcastic and full of attitude. Sorry if I read it wrong, but that's how I took it.

And, that's just the way I am. I don't pussyfoot around - I just tell it how it is. Sorry if I'm a little too straight forward for you, but that's just the way I am.
 
Jericho said:
yup. That's the end all statement. You can't cope with something if you aren't willing to accept the cause.
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OK, I'll humor you. Right now, at 8:46 pm PST on this April 7, 2010, I am hungry. And my emotional state is, neutral. How should I interpret the relationship between that emotion and my hunger?
 
ChefChiTown said:
Your response to my first post seemed extremely sarcastic and full of attitude. Sorry if I read it wrong, but that's how I took it.

And, that's just the way I am. I don't pussyfoot around - I just tell it how it is. Sorry if I'm a little too straight forward for you, but that's just the way I am.
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I don't like using sarcasm on text. It makes it too hard to say anything. I always mean exactly what I say.
 
Jacklinger said:
My valley is on Uranus where each widget has the weight of an SUV and corrodes in the nitrogen heavy atmosphere.
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:rotflmao: SO RANDOM! I love this thread <3 I don't think that Uranus has nitrogen though, but the atmosphere of the earth/the air we breathe is very nitrogen rich :D
 
They rhyme :D Anyways I'm not trying to derail your thread so sorry for the input, I just love Astronomy <3

Take care!
 
Alright, I really need to say something here.

While many people do experience some type of emotional hunger, not EVERYONE does. There are conditions such as Prader-Willi syndrome which can cause immense hunger. I'm not saying this guy has it but it is POSSIBLE that he does have an underlying condition that isn't necessarily emotional.

I have hypothyroidism. Often times this condition causes me to LACK in my appetite, it is a symptom of hypothyroidism, look it up. Why can't there be a condition that could cause an increase in appetite? Oh wait, hyperthyroidism can cause it.. not saying he has that though. But I am saying it's possible to have something going on in your body such as a hormone imbalance. He has type 2 diabetes which can increase hunger. He is on medicine for the diabetes (i think) which can also result in hunger.

Whether his problem is caused by an emotional state or physical state, I believe this thread has moved away from his initial question. He didn't ask why he is hungry. He just asked for ways of dealing with the hunger. When people actually gave him some coping strategies he acknowledged them. When people tried to tell him he is wrong about why he is hungry, he grew frustrated. I think if this thread continues it should solely be based on ways to cope with hunger that don't involve food. He is following a food plan already, whether it's the best way to eat or not. Just let him eat how he wants and stop preaching to him. This thread is getting ridiculous.
 
we are way past that. Wish I could just close this thread..anyways..

You know WHY we keep saying why he is hungry? Cause if you don't know the cause, then it will just keep happening and happening no matter how he copes.

Want to just cover how to cope? fine. Go read a book, do any sort of activity. Write. Sing a song. Play with knives. Mow the lawn. Drive.

As far as your question Jack, see above.
 
Jericho said:
we are way past that. Wish I could just close this thread..anyways..

You know WHY we keep saying why he is hungry? Cause if you don't know the cause, then it will just keep happening and happening no matter how he copes.

Want to just cover how to cope? fine. Go read a book, do any sort of activity. Write. Sing a song. Play with knives. Mow the lawn. Drive.

As far as your question Jack, see above.
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So you recommend mundane distractions? That seems to be what most do. OK thanks.
 
heatherisadork said:
Just let him eat how he wants and stop preaching to him. This thread is getting ridiculous.
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Getting ridiculous? This thread has been ridiculous for a while. Try reading through the responses he's gotten and you will see that he's already getting sound advice; he's just choosing to ignore it. As of now, you obviously have no idea what this thread is about though. He asked how to cope with being hungry, not "Why am I hungry?"

And, if you would read through the advice he's gotten, there's really nothing more that anybody can tell him. Even if he had some sort of internal, medical problem that was causing him to be hungry, knowing the diagnosis wouldn't do a damn thing for him in regards to coping with the hunger that he'd be feeling from it.
 
ChefChiTown said:
Getting ridiculous? This thread has been ridiculous for a while. Try reading through the responses he's gotten and you will see that he's already getting sound advice; he's just choosing to ignore it. As of now, you obviously have no idea what this thread is about though. He asked how to cope with being hungry, not "Why am I hungry?"

And, if you would read through the advice he's gotten, there's really nothing more that anybody can tell him. Even if he had some sort of internal, medical problem that was causing him to be hungry, knowing the diagnosis wouldn't do a damn thing for him in regards to coping with the hunger that he'd be feeling from it.
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So, you're saying there's no way to cope with hunger? I should just give in and eat until I'm full, even if it's 5000 calories? That's not very good advice. And you call yourself a ninja turtle....
 
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