Hey, could anyone help me out a bit

Kellee

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I'm a 18 year old female and I can't lose weight!
All of my life I've been over weight so I can't stand it anymore. :banghead: It's time to change.
Currently, I weigh 220Ibs and am 5"6 with a BMI of 35.5
Can someone please tell me how many calories I should be eating in a day, and the maximum amount of time I should work out in a day to lose 50+ pounds?
I don't have a specific time that I need it to be done by, however, it's always nice to lose it fast.
I have a gym membership and it's within a 1 mile walking distance, so exercising shouldn't be too big of a problem.
Please and thank you for any responces!​
 
You can find calorie calculators online, given the basic info you've supplied your maintenance calorie amount is approximately 2150 cals per day assuming you do little or no exercise.

That means if you consume 2150 cals a day you'll maintain your current weight.

To burn off 1lb of fat you need a total calorie deficit of approximately 3500 calories. If you want to lose 1lb a week then you need a daily deficit of about 3500/7 = 500 cal deficit per day.

A 500 cal deficit per day would put your target cals per day at about 2150-500 = 1650 cals per day.

If you wanted to lose 2lb a week you'd need a 1k deficit per day which would be 1150 cals per day target.

Exercise will naturally burn cals which helps create that daily calorie deficit, but you need to be realistic about how many calories are burnt off when you exercise, it's not a lot, you can do some research online and find out rough values, it's worth doing that before you exercise to get a realistic idea of how many calories you're burning.

For example, for your weight, running at 6mph for an entire hour burns about 1000 cals, it's far easier to get the same 1k deficit by simply eating less food and eating lower calorie food.

Hope that helps
 
Hey, thanks for the reply.
How many mins or hours of exercise a day do I need at the gym then?
Also, I'm extremely unhealthy and my heart rate goes up to 180 while walking 2.5- 3mph. Does this affect anything?​
 
I'm 23 and about the same height. May I ask what types of food you're eating?

Could you give me an example of what you might eat in a day?
 
Hey, thanks for the reply.
How many mins or hours of exercise a day do I need at the gym then?
Also, I'm extremely unhealthy and my heart rate goes up to 180 while walking 2.5- 3mph. Does this affect anything?​

Well it depends how much weight you want to lose, it's recommended that your weight loss should be no more than about 2lbs per week which is a deficit of 1000 cals per day making your target daily calories about 1150 per day

You can reach that goal with diet alone you don't need to do exercise. Exercise will help but not much, you would need to do a lot of hours down the gym every day to make up for that 1000 calorie deficit.

I'd recommend doing a bit of both, try and keep your calories as close to 1150 as possible and then do some light cardio work like running or swimming.

You will lose weight much easier by eating less calories per day, you won't exercise yourself thin unless you do a massive amount of work, and even then you need to eat a healthy diet still.
 
Well it depends how much weight you want to lose, it's recommended that your weight loss should be no more than about 2lbs per week which is a deficit of 1000 cals per day making your target daily calories about 1150 per day

You can reach that goal with diet alone you don't need to do exercise. Exercise will help but not much, you would need to do a lot of hours down the gym every day to make up for that 1000 calorie deficit.

I'd recommend doing a bit of both, try and keep your calories as close to 1150 as possible and then do some light cardio work like running or swimming.

You will lose weight much easier by eating less calories per day, you won't exercise yourself thin unless you do a massive amount of work, and even then you need to eat a healthy diet still.

It's amazing how much misinformation can be squeezed into one post.

1. It's usually recommended to go with a 500 cal deficit per day for healthy weight loss, no more.

2. If you want to lose weight healthily, exercise should very much be a part of your routine. A healthy mixture of cardio, resistance and weight training is ideal. There is plenty of information about that on this board.

3. 1150 calories are not enough for somebody of your height and weight. If you lower your calories that much, you are inevitably setting yourself up for plateauing, and you run the risk of putting weight back on quickly if you ever slip up. I would place you at roughly 1500 - 1650 calories at least, slightly more on days that you exercise.
 
It's amazing how much misinformation can be squeezed into one post.

1. It's usually recommended to go with a 500 cal deficit per day for healthy weight loss, no more.

2. If you want to lose weight healthily, exercise should very much be a part of your routine. A healthy mixture of cardio, resistance and weight training is ideal. There is plenty of information about that on this board.

3. 1150 calories are not enough for somebody of your height and weight. If you lower your calories that much, you are inevitably setting yourself up for plateauing, and you run the risk of putting weight back on quickly if you ever slip up. I would place you at roughly 1500 - 1650 calories at least, slightly more on days that you exercise.

1) It's common info all over the place that a 2lb per week is a safe maximum loss.

2) Exercise makes you more healthy, the OP did not ask about health she asked about losing weight, and the primary component of losing weight is calorie deficit. Not everyone who wants to lose weight also wants to increase muscle or stamina or whatever.

3) 1150 a day is perfectly safe, I've been on approximately that for a month now an I'm 6'1" male. Whether you put on weight after dieting depends entirely on how you handle coming off the diet, if you overeat again you'll gain weight, that's the most common cause of yo-yo dieting.

Lose weight at the rate you feel comfortable with, if you want to lose 1lb a week then aim for 500 cal deficit, if you want to lose at 2lb a week then that's generally considered safe.
 
Oh, wow... no. A female, in general, is NOT suppose to eat under 1200 calories a day! It's unhealthy and can send you into starvation mode. You'll start losing muscle...which is not good. Some people calorie cycle, which gives them a couple of 1200 calorie days a week, but no less.
Go with San's advice. Around 1500-1600. Right now, I go between 1400 and 1600 every other day. It confuses my body into losing the weight. I'm 260 right now, but started out at 288 at the end of April.
Look through the diaries here. They will honestly be your biggest help!

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1) It's common info all over the place that a 2lb per week is a safe maximum loss.

2) Exercise makes you more healthy, the OP did not ask about health she asked about losing weight, and the primary component of losing weight is calorie deficit. Not everyone who wants to lose weight also wants to increase muscle or stamina or whatever.

3) 1150 a day is perfectly safe, I've been on approximately that for a month now an I'm 6'1" male. Whether you put on weight after dieting depends entirely on how you handle coming off the diet, if you overeat again you'll gain weight, that's the most common cause of yo-yo dieting.

Lose weight at the rate you feel comfortable with, if you want to lose 1lb a week then aim for 500 cal deficit, if you want to lose at 2lb a week then that's generally considered safe.

1.) Maximum. That doesn't mean you're supposed to aim for it. Especially not when doing so puts you under a reasonable amount of calories.

2.) So you advocate unsafe weight loss? Since the original poster didn't specifically mention health, you assume that she doesn't care about it? I would rather think that she would just assume that people would not tell her to do anything that is not healthy.

Also, exercise has nothing to do with increasing muscle. You can't gain muscle if you eat less calories than you burn. It's about retaining the muscle that you have and making sure that you burn fat, and not your muscle. The increased stamina might be a nice side effect, but the main thing is that exercise burns calories - which is imperative for weight loss.

3) No it's not. You've been doing it for a month? That long already? Sorry, but just because you are starving yourself that doesn't mean that others should do it as well. 1150 calories are not enough. How far down will you go once you have lost some weight to adjust? 800....700? 500? Just wondering.
 
1.) Maximum. That doesn't mean you're supposed to aim for it. Especially not when doing so puts you under a reasonable amount of calories.

The amount is fine, it's within safe guidelines.

2.) So you advocate unsafe weight loss? Since the original poster didn't specifically mention health, you assume that she doesn't care about it? I would rather think that she would just assume that people would not tell her to do anything that is not healthy.

I don't presume to assume anything about the OP, she asked about weight loss and I'm answering, sorry you might not want to hear this but some of us generally don't care about pushing our bodies to the limit with exercise we simply want to drop extra weight. Weight loss without exercise is not unsafe, don't be ridiculous.

Also, exercise has nothing to do with increasing muscle. You can't gain muscle if you eat less calories than you burn. It's about retaining the muscle that you have and making sure that you burn fat, and not your muscle. The increased stamina might be a nice side effect, but the main thing is that exercise burns calories - which is imperative for weight loss.

It's not necessary for weight loss and anyone who is trying to lose weight might be put off at the idea of hours and hours in the gym when it's not necessary, you can lose weight purely through diet.

3) No it's not. You've been doing it for a month? That long already? Sorry, but just because you are starving yourself that doesn't mean that others should do it as well. 1150 calories are not enough. How far down will you go once you have lost some weight to adjust? 800....700? 500? Just wondering.

I started off at 1330 cals which is 3lb a week loss, I've since dropped to 1280 and then 1200 as I've updated my maintenance based on my new weight. Some days I eat significantly less, in the 800-900 range.

I'm fine, I eat if I start feeling hungry, your body is smart enough to let you know when you're "starving", it's pretty obvious. If you're hungry then eat something, it's not rocket science.

I will keep decreasing the target amount until I feel there is issue to stop, I'm not likely to go below about 1000-1100 per day, because if I average my intake over the last few weeks it is about 1100 per day, after that I will probably drop to a 2lb a week loss.

Approximately 1200 cals is a fine minimum for women

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There's thousands more, use google.
 
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The amount is fine, it's within safe guidelines.
Within certain parameters. That doesn't mean everybody HAS to lose that amount in a week, especially, as said before, if the amount of calories you drop down to to achieve that puts you under your minimal requirements.

I don't presume to assume anything about the OP, she asked about weight loss and I'm answering, sorry you might not want to hear this but some of us generally don't care about pushing our bodies to the limit with exercise we simply want to drop extra weight. Weight loss without exercise is not unsafe, don't be ridiculous.

You don't assume anything, so you give out potentially unhealthy advice? That's not how I do it, sorry. It's common sense to assume that somebody wants to stay healthy during their weight loss. Also, I have never said anything about pushing your body to the limit, nor did I ever mention that weight loss without exercise is unsafe. Please do not put words into my mouth that I have never said.

What gets me most is that you suggest DITCHING the exercise to somebody who pointed out that they already have a gym membership and are clearly willing to do some exercise. Why suggest something that will put her at a disadvantage?? Just because YOU don't like to exercise?

It's not necessary for weight loss and anyone who is trying to lose weight might be put off at the idea of hours and hours in the gym when it's not necessary, you can lose weight purely through diet.

I never said that exercise is necessary for weight loss. In fact I specified that it isn't. Once more, you suffer from selective reading - you read what you want to. Nobody talked about hours and hours in the gym either.

Fact is though, exercise will a) make your weight loss a healthier process. It will burn additional calories, it will ensure that you lose fat, not muscle, and aren't stuck with fat deposits even once you reached your goal weight. It will improve your overall health, and no, we are not talking about sweating your bum off for ten hours a day at all.

I started off at 1330 cals which is 3lb a week loss, I've since dropped to 1280 and then 1200 as I've updated my maintenance based on my new weight. Some days I eat significantly less, in the 800-900 range.
I'm fine, I eat if I start feeling hungry, your body is smart enough to let you know when you're "starving", it's pretty obvious. If you're hungry then eat something, it's not rocket science.
I will keep decreasing the target amount until I feel there is issue to stop, I'm not likely to go below about 1000-1100 per day, because if I average my intake over the last few weeks it is about 1100 per day, after that I will probably drop to a 2lb a week loss.
Approximately 1200 cals is a fine minimum for women.

You are not eating enough. If you read all your sources carefully, you will see that most of them state clearly that 1200 calories are lower than the minimum amount of calories required. You are essentially starving your body. I don't know your stats, but unless you are under about 120 lbs at your height, you're undernourished.

If your body is so clever, how did you manage to become overweight in the first place? If your body is smart enough to let you know when to eat, surely it would be smart enough to let you know when you had enough? It doesn't work like that. Your body will adjust to getting too little food, and shut down anything that it doesn't need for basic functions. Being hungry will only be an issue for a short while, after that your body has a tendency to stop sending the signal, and dealing differently with the situation.

You are also vastly underestimating the complexity of weight loss. Just because you are 1000 cals under maintenance, it won't mean you will steadily lose 2 lbs per week. In fact, I can pretty much guarantee you that within a rather short time, your weight loss will stagnate because your body has gone into full blown starvation mode, holding on to everything, and adjusting to working with what little bit of energy you allow it to have. So in order to lose, you would have to drop even more calories - the very thing that caused the problems in the first place.

You apparently know how to use google. If you wanted to, you could find several million pages, all full of detailed information why going too low in your calories is not just detrimental to your weight loss in the long run, it is also dangerous. Have a look on this forum as well, read the stickies, especially those that pertain extremely low calorie diets and starvation mode. You might be surprised.
 
Within certain parameters. That doesn't mean everybody HAS to lose that amount in a week, especially, as said before, if the amount of calories you drop down to to achieve that puts you under your minimal requirements.

I didn't say anyone HAD to do anything, I specifically said that it depends on how much weight you want to lose and how quickly. You accuse me of putting words in people mouths, WOW...

You don't assume anything, so you give out potentially unhealthy advice? That's not how I do it, sorry. It's common sense to assume that somebody wants to stay healthy during their weight loss. Also, I have never said anything about pushing your body to the limit, nor did I ever mention that weight loss without exercise is unsafe. Please do not put words into my mouth that I have never said.

I said weight loss wasn't necessary, you said I was giving out unsafe advice, I'm not putting words into your mouth, you clearly wrote that, scroll up and read your own post.

What gets me most is that you suggest DITCHING the exercise to somebody who pointed out that they already have a gym membership and are clearly willing to do some exercise. Why suggest something that will put her at a disadvantage?? Just because YOU don't like to exercise?

NO, I did not. Again you're putting words in my mouth and I don't appreciate that. My original post is there, what I said is that exercise doesn't burn many calories and that you need to be realistic about how many you burn when you exercise. There is a very specific reason for this, because if you do not well understand how many calories are lost to exercise it's easy to essentially neutralise all that effort with a bad diet.

What that results in lots of effort spent and noting gained which is a massive mental barrier to weight loss, people easily give up on weight loss when they do things and see no result, if someone is say treating themselves to ice cream because they've spent 2 hours in the gym and feel like they've earned it could be significantly gaining calories because they don't have perspective on how many calories you're burning vs how many you're getting in your diet.

What I said in my original post if you took just 5 seconds to read is that she should educate her self as to how many calories are burnt when doing specific exercise. Her approach to asking advice was to ask how many hours down the gym she should spend to lose weight and as I said before, the primary component to losing weight is not exercise, it burns off so little calories that the answer would be that you'd need to spend literally half your life in the gym to see noticeable benefits to weight loss.

I didn't disregard it as helpful, I specifically said in my second post that a mix between exercise and diet is good because you can make up that deficit easier each day, again go back and READ what I actually said.

I never said that exercise is necessary for weight loss. In fact I specified that it isn't. Once more, you suffer from selective reading - you read what you want to. Nobody talked about hours and hours in the gym either.

You said that it's unhealthy to lose weight without exercise, how can that translate into anything but exercise being necessary. If it wasn't necessary in your mind, you'd have no qualm with my post, which you clearly have.

You need to spend a long time doing cardio to lose significant amount of weight, if you spend only a short time doing light exercise you'll see very little in the way of calorie loss. Again let me state that my original advice was simply to educate yourself in the amount of calories that different exercise burns off, it's important to have perspective. For some people that trade off is simply not worth it, or worse if someone thinks it's the only route to weight loss they may just give up entirely which is the worst case scenario.

You are not eating enough.

Define "enough".

If you read all your sources carefully, you will see that most of them state clearly that 1200 calories are lower than the minimum amount of calories required. You are essentially starving your body. I don't know your stats, but unless you are under about 120 lbs at your height, you're undernourished.

I'm Male, 6'1" tall and was nearly 250lbs, I'm currently about 235lbs after approx 4 weeks of diet only.

Of course I'm "undernourished", the definition of undernourished is that you don't have enough nourishment for good health, anyone that is losing weight is going to be undernourished, you HAVE to be undernourished to lose weight, that's the whole point, your body is overnourised and storing excess as fat and you're trying to do the opposite and be undernourished so your body retrieves that energy from your fat. The only thing that matters is are you undernourished to a safe degree, 1200 is a clearly stated acceptable minimum for women and so is perfectly good advice to recommend that low.

If your body is so clever, how did you manage to become overweight in the first place? If your body is smart enough to let you know when to eat, surely it would be smart enough to let you know when you had enough?

It does let me know when I've had enough, but guess what FOOD IS GOOD, sugar is good, salt is good, dairy is good, doughnuts full of cream and jam, covered in sugar taste great! It's a case of ignoring your bodies response to being full in order to get the pleasure of eating things that taste good.

You are also vastly underestimating the complexity of weight loss. Just because you are 1000 cals under maintenance, it won't mean you will steadily lose 2 lbs per week. In fact, I can pretty much guarantee you that within a rather short time, your weight loss will stagnate because your body has gone into full blown starvation mode, holding on to everything, and adjusting to working with what little bit of energy you allow it to have. So in order to lose, you would have to drop even more calories - the very thing that caused the problems in the first place.

Actually I've been 1500 cals under maintenance (target) and a little more than that in actual achievement and I've see almost exact drop in my weight relative to the amount expected. I'm not "starving", If I'm hungry I eat.

You apparently know how to use google. If you wanted to, you could find several million pages, all full of detailed information why going too low in your calories is not just detrimental to your weight loss in the long run, it is also dangerous. Have a look on this forum as well, read the stickies, especially those that pertain extremely low calorie diets and starvation mode. You might be surprised.

Yes, that information is available, there are loads of health sources saying 1200 cals is fine for a female, I cited several sources none of which you've contested.

2lbs weight loss is commonly stated as the maximum safe loss per week, and 1200 cals is commonly stated as the minimum safe daily calorie limit, you'll see it mentioned everywhere.
 
I've been dieting for 4 weeks. I eat 1400-1600 everyday, and do light cardio, mixed with walking. I have lost almost 30lbs in that time. The exercise has helped me drop inches, not just pounds. I'm not eating as little as you suggest...so....what's going on there?

Your original post was just very simple, and didn't give important information. This is a teen girl. What do you know, personally, about a teen girl's weight loss? Are you a doctor? Do you have sisters or daughters that have had successful, long term weight loss? Probably not.

The most important thing about calories and losing weight, is that you have to find something you can live with. 1000-1200 calories isn't something most people can live with for the rest of their lives.
 
Frosteh, I will not go into it again. Going over and over the same issue will not change it.

Do whatever you want to. If you think that everybody else is wrong, and only you are right, then by all means, go ahead. In the end it is your body and your health.

But do not give advice like 'You're fine with 1100 kcal' to others, especially not based on something that you have been doing for ONE MONTH. You have your facts wrong, and the mere statement of 'you're undernourished while you're losing weight' makes me want to bang my head against a brick wall.

Definitions of 'undernourished'
1
: supplied with less than the minimum amount of the foods essential for sound health and growth
2
: poorly supplied with vital elements or qualities


Eating in a caloric deficit does not, and should never equal being undernourished. Ever. If it does, you are doing it wrong.
 
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Whoa, alright now, lets calm down. This sounds like it became a slight argument.
I do care about my health, sorry I didn't state that to begin with. >.<
So basically I've decided that maybe going inbetween what you guys say will work? Since it's such a huge debate. I'd like to lose as fast as possible, but like I said there's not a specific time I'd like to lose. Just fast. :)

I'll start with 1,300 and if I'm not seeing any progress, I'll lower it.
And I will also try to get some exercise in.
 
OH! And I completely forgot to ask if taking vitamins will affect anything?
I want to start taking them because I have such a poor diet that consists mainly of Cabbage, potatoes, pork, beans, vinegar, and fruit..
I can't remember the last time I had anything other than that, that wasn't restaurant food, or fast food (which I know I need to completely cut out)
 
I think it is good to add a Multivitamin with one's diet. I take One A Day Vita Craves (Gummies). There are lots of good Multivitamin out there. Can't hurt anything. Good luck to you!:seeya:
 
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