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Hey, I'm new here, I'm 5 9' I'm currently at 151, down from a high of 180. My goal is 130
 
Hey no worries, I'm sure it was just a misunderstanding. I am new to this and didn't realize that people give really specific advice which is why I gave more general (which I now realize is inappropriate in this form) advice. I do know my stuff (regrettably, I didn't come across that way in my postings with you) (I have a BAH in Health Studies as we as being a lifeguard, swimming instructor and aquafit instructor). From what I read you and I would probably have some pretty good discussions since we both seem opinionated about techniques as well as studies. I'm looking forward to it as I LOVE getting other people opinions on things as well as hearing about new studies (which you seem to be knowledgeable about). Thanks for the apology and I appreciate being welcomed by both of you. Steve since you are so opinionated (and I say that in the best way possible!) maybe you want to take a crack at my situation. I've gone from 180 down to 130, but recently fell off the wagon and put back on 20 pounds. I lost the 50 pounds over approx 2 years with diet and exercise. (and i say diet meaning healthy choices not a fad diet). I'm now still eating well, and by well i mean sticking to good carbohydrates when I do (ie all whole grain) as well as tons of fruits and vegetables. I make sure that I get the majority of my fat from unsaturated sources, and my protein comes mainly from eggs. I work out 4-5 times a week, doing 30minutes minimum of cardio (not walking, running or hard on the elliptical). As well as weight training. I do gain muscle fairly easily (easier than most females). My weight hasn't budged(in 3 weeks), nor has my body fat percent. I'm not expecting miracles in 3 weeks obviously, but I find it HIGHLY unusual that nothing has changed even though I'm working hard. I'd be most appreciative if you or anyone else with fresh eyes wants to give me any advice.
 
Let me make sure I have this straight...

You went from 180 to 130. Then you jumped back up to 150. What changed to allow this jump to occur?

Also, have you tracked calories at all along the way?

Lastly, how long have you been following this diet and exercise program?
 
Under normal circumstances this weight gain wouldn't have occurred. I had to spend 2 weeks in the hospital and couldn't go outside, in that 2 weeks I put on 15 pounds, and then 5 pounds came on after i got out of the hospital. That was in the last 2 weeks of Feb. I have tracked my caloric intake along they way yes, and I am never eating more than 2000 calories a day (when i was in the hospital i was eating more than this, and the food quality was terrible). I've been eating well keeping my caloric intake under 2000, and exercising for 3 weeks now with no change.
 
consistently around 2000, I wouldn't go below 1700 ever, which would be the lowest. And I wouldn't go above 2300 on days where i eat less than perfect.
 
I don't see how you could gain 15Lbs in 2 weeks. You would have had to eat 3500 calories more than you burned each day that you were in the hospital. I mean, I've gained "4Lbs" quickly but thats usually water weight from too much salt or a night of drinking.
Okay, this post is coming across as rude, I don't mean it like that at all... I just am curious as to how the body could pack on 15Lbs in 2 weeks.
On another note, I'm also starting to get extremely annoyed with lack of weight loss. It seems like no matter what I do I see 160.5 on the scale. It's been weeks (except for a little increase around Easter). I workout, I have even increased/decreased my calories... 160.5. It's frusterating.
 
I don't see how you could gain 15Lbs in 2 weeks. You would have had to eat 3500 calories more than you burned each day that you were in the hospital. I mean, I've gained "4Lbs" quickly but thats usually water weight from too much salt or a night of drinking.
Okay, this post is coming across as rude, I don't mean it like that at all... I just am curious as to how the body could pack on 15Lbs in 2 weeks.
On another note, I'm also starting to get extremely annoyed with lack of weight loss. It seems like no matter what I do I see 160.5 on the scale. It's been weeks (except for a little increase around Easter). I workout, I have even increased/decreased my calories... 160.5. It's frusterating.

I have been on meds for two weeks that have made me gain fifteen pounds in two weeks.. I was on one med for a month that made me gain 35 pounds, by increasing my appetitie to a horrid amount. After a month I called my doc and insisted on him changing my meds. So now I am losing ..
but seriously it can happen, its horrible when it does, but it can..

take care
natalie jo
 
consistently around 2000, I wouldn't go below 1700 ever, which would be the lowest. And I wouldn't go above 2300 on days where i eat less than perfect.

The thing is, 2000 calories puts you at over 13 calories per pound of body weight. That's not very low at all... especially for a female who has already lost a good bit of weight.

That's your primary problem right there.
 
I don't see how you could gain 15Lbs in 2 weeks. You would have had to eat 3500 calories more than you burned each day that you were in the hospital.

You're confusing fat and weight.

Each pound of fat has approx. 3500 calories. But weight is not fat.

I gained 9 lbs the other day.

Of weight.
 
I don't see how you could gain 15Lbs in 2 weeks. You would have had to eat 3500 calories more than you burned each day that you were in the hospital. I mean, I've gained "4Lbs" quickly but thats usually water weight from too much salt or a night of drinking.
Okay, this post is coming across as rude, I don't mean it like that at all... I just am curious as to how the body could pack on 15Lbs in 2 weeks.
On another note, I'm also starting to get extremely annoyed with lack of weight loss. It seems like no matter what I do I see 160.5 on the scale. It's been weeks (except for a little increase around Easter). I workout, I have even increased/decreased my calories... 160.5. It's frusterating.

I KNOW I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT. I mean I know that I gain and lose fast. I guess it's understandable. I was swimming an hour a day, yoga for one hour and running for an hour, and eating healthy. Then not moving and eating crap for 2 weeks. I still can't believe it though. Your post isn't coming across rude at all. I still can't believe how fast it came on... literly my worst nightmare.
 
So would 1500 be more appropriate. I guess also information to give you is that I have a body fat percent of 23%, when I was at 130 i was at 15%
 
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I KNOW I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT. I mean I know that I gain and lose fast. I guess it's understandable. I was swimming an hour a day, yoga for one hour and running for an hour, and eating healthy. Then not moving and eating crap for 2 weeks. I still can't believe it though. Your post isn't coming across rude at all. I still can't believe how fast it came on... literly my worst nightmare.

Again, it's weight.

Not fat.

You couldn't gain fat that quickly.

You were in the hospital you said, right? Were you on medication? One side effect could have been water retention. Regardless.... it wasn't all fat.
 
So would 1500 be more appropriate. I guess also information to give you is that I have a body fat percent of 23%, when I was at 130 i was at 15%

Yea, or maybe something around 1600-1700 sounds more reasonable given your stats and information. Maintenance intake can be assumed to be somewhere between 12-16 calories per pound of body weight, and this is factoring in a moderate amount of physical activity/exercise.

Lean male athletes will be on the high end of that scale.

Females in your shoes could certainly be on the low end of that scale.

Dropping down to 11 or so calories per pound would be a fine starting point.

Also, how were those body fat readings tested?
 
I know it wasn't all fat. Ummm yah I was put on medication, unfortunatly still on the medication. The side effects are weight gain (but that's because they make you crave carbs... random I know. But because i know that I've been trying to stay away from the bad ones (ie white flour)) So alas I guess the answer is work twice as hard as I normally would have to. The body fat readings were done using both electrical current and skin fold tests to ensure accuracy.
 
Well, I'd tighten up the calories as I suggested. Beating your body into submission with a ton of exercise probably wouldn't be wise. The norm is fine. Excessive, not so much. Remember, recoverability is reduced as you diet down.

As for at the body fat testing, bioelectrical impedance is very inaccurate. Hydration levels, among other things, can really toy with the reading. Calipers have a 3ish% error rate just as a device and that doesn't include tester error. A bad caliper-user (most are, trainer or not) could add a bunch to that deviation.

Here is someone from another forum. She was DEXA scanned. Since you have the background, I'm sure you're aware that this is a very accurate measure.

Attached find the pic... she was 14% body fat in these pictures.
 
I wasn't doing the calibrator test, however i can appreciate that it isn't as accurate (we can't all get DEXA scanned unfortunatly). As for her photo, she has an amazing body, and I'm jealous as I wasn't that muscular, however I was almost that thin. Regardless thanks for the reminder about calories. Sometimes I just need to hear it from another voice to give me the extra push to cut down again.
 
You're welcome.

And yea, she has a set of genetics on her, let me tell you. Her screen name on the various forums is "Built." Haha, I'd say it's deserved.

She actually dieted down from a 'chubby' weight if I remember correctly. I posted more pics of her around here some place.
 
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