Help, there is something that bothers me A LOT

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StraTz

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Hey guys so i've been excercising for 3 months now and i get smaller and smaller, but every time i get on the uuh, scale, i weigh the exact same thing that before, but i feel everything lose (my clothes, etc) even people tell me i look smaller, why is that?
i do 2 hours of cardio a day and i eat 1500 calories a day
 
Why worry about it? The only person that sees the number on the scales is you when you get weighed... As far as everyone else is concerned you are getting smaller...

The reason is that you are burning fat with the exercise but also developing muscle... Muscle is heavier than fat...

I used to know someone who was always thin that did a lot of sport in the summer but not in winter... He had more muscle in the summer and in the winter he lost some of his muscle and had more fat... He was actually heavier in the summer than he was in the winter every year...
 
Plateaus suck. I'm going to disagree with Omega. If it wasn't important to you, you probably wouldn't post.

OK...so I'm not telling you how to fix it...I'm telling you what I would do if I was stuck on a plateau.

First of all...I wouldn't panic. Anyone that's ever dieted has been there.

Second of all. I wouldn't stand for it. It would be unacceptable for me to be on a diet for 3 months and not lose any weight. I want to see progress, and I will, by God see progress, or I'm going to fix it.

Third, I'd realize that there is nothing keeping me from losing weight but me.

Your reported exercise levels and caloric intake puzzle me greatly. Of course, I don't know your size or circumstances, but it seems like that's not many calories and a lot of exercise.

Are you sure that's really 1500 calories a day? Is that every day or on your best days or what? Has your portion size blown up on you (MY #1 issue in this area has always been portion size).

On the exercise...I'd suggest working out harder. See a doctor first and all that. But I personally work out 30 minutes a day and have dropped 101 pounds, as of this morning, in the last 14 months. But I work out absolutely as hard as I can WITHOUT putting myself in a position that I can't force myself to go again the next day. If you're not sore....if you're not feeling the burn....if you're not soaked with sweat....if you're not gasping for breath....than it ain't "cardio" in my book.

Good luck. I mean it. Really. Good luck to you.

Phil
 
".if you're not feeling the burn....if you're not soaked with sweat....if you're not gasping for breath....than it ain't "cardio" in my book.
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Well, it's cardio.
 
I agree with Phil (Hoosierbuddy). I have yet to experience a plateau but 3 months seems like a long time not to lose a pound. I weigh myself daily and if I am not seeing the results of my diet and workout every few days I know I have to do 1 or 2 of 3 things -

1. Drink more water
2. Change my workout - timing, length, intensity
3. Reduce my calorie intake

Beyond this I don't think there is any kind of magical formula to losing weight. I see a few people comment on the forum about how little they eat and how hard they workout to not experience any weight loss and look for answers on the forum. There are days when I have got on the scales and I have seen a 5 Lb increase from the previous day but I know exactly what has caused it.
 
HoosierBuddy said:
If you're not sore....if you're not feeling the burn....if you're not soaked with sweat....if you're not gasping for breath....than it ain't "cardio" in my book.
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Sorry, but that's complete nonsense. How much you sweat or hurt has nothing to do with how efficient your workout is. And if you're sore, you're doing something seriously wrong.
 
San said:
Sorry, but that's complete nonsense. How much you sweat or hurt has nothing to do with how efficient your workout is. And if you're sore, you're doing something seriously wrong.
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Your post makes no sense to me.

Are you saying you can get a good workout:

Without sweating?
Without increased respiratory rate?
Without pushing your muscles to the point that there is tightness afterwards (or yes...even soreness when you go an extra lap or two)?

Must be an English thing. (as in "something is being lost in translation"...not the fact you're from the UK. Course maybe that's a factor too. I don't know.)

Phil
 
HoosierBuddy said:
Your post makes no sense to me.

Are you saying you can get a good workout:

Without sweating?
Without increased respiratory rate?
Without pushing your muscles to the point that there is tightness afterwards (or yes...even soreness when you go an extra lap or two)?

Must be an English thing. (as in "something is being lost in translation"...not the fact you're from the UK. Course maybe that's a factor too. I don't know.)

Phil
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You're not gonna last long.
 
Just because you sweat, it doesn't mean you're achieving anything. I am currently sitting in front of my computer, sweating my sizeable behind off. Means nothing.

Heavy breathing? People get out of breath going up a flight of stairs, but that doesn't mean they are burning hundreds of calories. Gasping for breath? You're doing it wrong, and are actually hurting yourself more than you're doing good. Your breathing should be slightly increased and deepened, but you certainly shouldn't be gasping.

And I never push myself to the point that I am sore, since that means pushing past the point of what's healthy.

According to your theory, if I am out of breath and sweating (not to mention having a cramp in my leg) from walking up the stairs at the supermarket, I had a good cardio workout. I wouldn't think so. Every big person who's panting and sweating after 5 minutes on the treadmill isn't doing a good cardio workout.

It's not a matter of 'lost in translation'. It's a matter of using a unit of measurement that's not applicable to the formula.
 
Benny Bent said:
You're not gonna last long.
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I think you're probably right. I'm getting that "unwelcome feeling" one gets when they suddenly realize that they've stepped into the wrong restroom.

Note to the OP. I tried. Sorry for the hijack.

Phil
 
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Wait wait wait why do you answer me and not San? who gave you some counter-arguments? Oh may it be that you're in this very wellknown place called denial? :p
 
If you read around, we're all helpful to eachothers, read the diaries and you'll notice that there's only love around there, if you feel unwelcome, maybe it's coming from you, I welcome you to make the step of starting a diary if you need it and let's see where it goes.
 
Thanks Benny.

Tomorrow I will post "why I am posting to this site". Please look for it and, if inclined, let me know if I'm in the right place or not.

Phil
 
I think that when posting about the level of intensity for cardio it needs to be remembered that we all come from different places... Someone that is at goal will have a totally different view of the level of cardio that they need to do for it to be effective.

A large person will get an excellent cardio workout by walking and burn a lot more calories than a thin person who may sweat for a solid hour or longer for that matter...

Both need to feel good about their exercise level and the work that they have done to deserve weight loss or indeed effective weight control.

I certainly exercise in a totally different way that I did when I weighed double my current weight. If I went out and walked slowly but walked 4 or 5 miles I burnt a lot of calories. It was actually better to exercise slowly and get a lot more done... If I had tried to jog I would have been wiped out in about 2 minutes if that... I wouldnt have actually achieved much (apart from the belief that I couldnt exercise). Now - I have to leap around like an idiot.

I do not think that there is anything to be gained by asking people who are seeing positive results to question the level of intensity of the exercise that they are doing.

Stratz said that he was getting smaller and smaller and his clothes are looser and people notice the fact that he is getting smaller. These are all positive results for his work.

If his fat was not reducing - his clothes would not be looser and he would not be looking smaller.

Stratz posted that he was puzzled as to how he could be seeing results that were not reflected on the scales - and frankly - people raising the issue of a plateau were not making any attempt at answering this question. They were simply addressing a lack of movement at the scales with no consideration of the looser clothes and other results. The scale is a flawed means of monitoring our efforts which is why people check using things like tape measures and body fat meters.

As for muscle burning - my muscles often feel tired after an intense zumba session. While very tired - I would not say that they are painful. If painful they may be injured and further exercise could cause damage that could cause a lot of future exercise problems. My right shoulder is painful and needs a physio (this is a problem that I have had for some time and simply work through) - and I can certainly tell the difference between tired muscles and painful muscles...
 
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Benny Bent said:
I got a downvote rep made by monster cuz my ideas are wrong, yet I didn't gave any opinion in this thread, great. :p
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You did give various opinions in this thread, and everybody is free to up- or downvote rep as they see fit. That's how it works.
 
San said:
You did give various opinions in this thread, and everybody is free to up- or downvote rep as they see fit. That's how it works.
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I said that walking was cardio, I thought it was a fact and that no opinion can change this.
I also said this forum was a place full of love, but it's up to everyone's opinion I guess.

But it's ok, I'm fine with that, just thought it was funny.
 
Benny Bent said:
I said that walking was cardio, I thought it was a fact and that no opinion can change this.
I also said this forum was a place full of love, but it's up to everyone's opinion I guess.

But it's ok, I'm fine with that, just thought it was funny.
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Maybe it was the
Benny Bent said:
You're not gonna last long.
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that Monster didnt agree with...

If you really want to know - you could send Monster a message and ask him...

I suspect that we all get good rep and bad rep from time to time...

I definitely think that this forum is a place of love and support - and I suspect that Monster agrees with this - so it is probably something else...
 
Could've been a mistake too, oh I was just surprised, nevermind that :p I should not even have posted about this. Especially calling out names.
 
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