Hey skinnylady I just can't call you the other one, I'll call it in for you, I have relatives in New Zealand, in te - puke. My sister and her hubby and grown kids and grandkids. They been there for 25 yrs now. Anyway sounds like you are on the way to losing again what are you doing ? I am back on low fat dairy, and cereals with a bit more fibre, and excercising with Jane fonda 1 hr a day. I feel sort of accountable by being on here,maybe it's really what I need. I like food but have learned to eat 3 plates of food a day, [used to eat a lot more] I do snack but trying to give this up. If I eat 3 plates of food I try to put the 5 food groups on the plates, not at each meal but usually do a mental inventory of the days food. I find it hard to count calories I've never been able to do this. I know why I gained weight again because I kept comprimising, all the good decisions I made, I din't stick to them. I went back on full fat dairy started eating low fibre ceareals.Started eating after dinner again, even getting up during the night [which was a biggy for me]. It is so hard to stick with it.I know what to do and can't seem to keep the consistency going.The discipline of it all seems to torment me, like I'm being deprived, it's funny when I think about it, but I'm sure that it must affect a lot of people. I sometimes think why can't I just be normal, and eat and not gain weight , and not obsese over the scales [as I do]. Anyway hope to here form you soon from Sue in Brisbane Australia.