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Sunflower2

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Hey,

Can someone advise me on how much weight I should lose?

I'm 5'10 and am 202lbs (around 14 stone)

Obviously I want to get to a healthy BMI but various sites have told me various things and was wondering if you guys could advise me?

I don't want to be thin. I just want to be comfy and be able to fit in a size 12 (UK size).

I'm not sure anyone will be able to tell me, but I wanted to make one of the progress banners and wasn't sure what I should be aiming for!)

Thank you

Hana
 
A BMI of 25 is generally considered to be the dividing line between normal and overweight. For you, that would be 174 pounds.
 
At the risk of offending you, I think that you should really be shooting for getting down below 130 if you want to optimize your health. Coincidentally, it will also make you look great. People are going to yell at me for perpetrating body image problems blah blah blah, but I'm not saying that to insult you, that is my professional opinion as a weight loss specialist. The article in today's Wall Street Journal that I just created a topic on will further illustrate this point.
 
could you give reference to why you are a weight loss specialist? Your degree or experience please? You are posting alot about a book that some feel has interesting ideas but is panned cause of saying calorie count doesn't matter nor does exercise. You are coming across as a book shill and I think we could take your advice better if we knew where you was coming from with your claims.

Thanks.
 
Jericho said:
could you give reference to why you are a weight loss specialist? Your degree or experience please? You are posting alot about a book that some feel has interesting ideas but is panned cause of saying calorie count doesn't matter nor does exercise. You are coming across as a book shill and I think we could take your advice better if we knew where you was coming from with your claims.

Thanks.
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I am posting about that book because I consider it to be definitive, but there are plenty of other books that are great as well:
The Vegetarian Myth
The Primal Blueprint
Protein Power

I run a boutique shop in New York City helping people lose weight. I charge them by the pound, so I only get paid based on their weight loss. They usually lose about 4 lbs a week once their body keto-adapts. I work specifically with financial executives for the most part. I specialize in people who have tried all of the BS that you guys are talking about with cutting calories and exercising for hours every day, yet either put the weight back on without substantially altering their diet, or stagnated and couldn't get down to the "look good naked" weight that they were initially trying to achieve.

My motives are to give people real advice that will work for them, particularly since the voices on this forum are not getting it right. I have watched people all around me destroy their bodies doing the stuff that you guys are talking about, which is what led me to get involved in the field in the first place.

As for calorie counting, yes, that doesn't matter. If you eat less than 50g of carbs a day, you will lose a lot of weight regardless of how many calories you eat, because it will be physically impossible for your body to store up excess fat.

When it comes to exercise, I said it doesn't matter, but that's not really what I mean. What I mean is that the caloric deficit from exercise is totally irrelevant. This is why low intensity "cardio" is pretty useless. Exercise is all about increasing muscle size and more importantly, muscular insulin sensitivity. My clients are on a HIT workout regimen one day a week. This follows at least 12 hours of fasting, although I personally usually do 36 or more hours of fasting going into my workout.
 
Ok, what is your education in the field?

Because, I mean the science and everyone disagrees with much of what you are preaching. I mean the simple statement that if you eat really low carbs that it doesn't matter how many calories is a falsehood on the highest scale.

Let me put it this way, you come here out of the blue, telling everyone they are wrong and to read the book you are pushing out there. You state you are a specialist when you aren't a doctor, aren't medical in anyway. Your statements get shot down by others and what you do is change the definitions (aka how you redefined healthy when I faced you about the Japanese and their diet). There is no reference for us to see you as trying to help when you come off as 'you are all wrong, listen to me and my truth'.

Sorry but I'm getting on you cause you are throwing things out there as fact that is not fact.
 
Jericho said:
Ok, what is your education in the field?

Because, I mean the science and everyone disagrees with much of what you are preaching. I mean the simple statement that if you eat really low carbs that it doesn't matter how many calories is a falsehood on the highest scale.

Let me put it this way, you come here out of the blue, telling everyone they are wrong and to read the book you are pushing out there. You state you are a specialist when you aren't a doctor, aren't medical in anyway. Your statements get shot down by others and what you do is change the definitions (aka how you redefined healthy when I faced you about the Japanese and their diet). There is no reference for us to see you as trying to help when you come off as 'you are all wrong, listen to me and my truth'.

Sorry but I'm getting on you cause you are throwing things out there as fact that is not fact.
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No, I'm not a doctor, and I don't need to be to be correct. The fact is, some people lose weight cutting calories, others don't. Please, dispute that, I dare you. The book that I am "pushing" happens to be the most comprehensive literature review on nutrition ever written, and it is written by a guy with a long history of scientific literature reviews for Science magazine, the NY Times, and of course the author of two other groundbreaking books, one on the "science" of cold fusion and the other on particle physics. That said, there are plenty of other books that will support most of what I'm saying, including "Protein Power" which is written by a doctor and "Dr. Atkins Diet Revolution" written by Dr. Atkins who is also a doctor. If the MD doesn't have credibility with these two guys, why does it have credibility with anyone else as far as weight loss is concerned? And it's not like either of these guys invented anything, cutting carbs is how people have been dieting since the 1870s.
 
EDIT: Nothing discussed with this man will be helpful to the original poster. I am sorry for derailing your post for help. We will help support you anyway we can :)
 
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Remember that you have to be comfortable with what you are. If you think 130 is too small then don't do that. Anyways, you have to hit 150 before 130 so there you go :)

Is there anything we can do to help you along?
 
Nope, I'm fine at the moment thank you for asking :D Lost 10.5lbs in a few weeks so I'm on the right track and feeling good. On the BMI scale 130lbs would make me dangerously close to being underweight (by about 0.2!) so I'd rather be comfortable and happy instead of looking a little skeletal :p
 
Okay, just to try and intervene and make the world have one less person haunted by the really bad advice that LoseWeightNYC delivers :)

BMI is simply a statistical instrument used to say generalized things about how much the population in general should weigh. This is because (au contraire to how romantic it sounds when you use words like "personalized diet" and "I treat the individual, not the disease") medicine and health works better from the top down.

Now, statistically an average persons BMI should be between 21 and 24 (20-25 really but those are the borderlines) You however have to remember that this doesn't take into account muscle mass, bone mass etc. So BMI should be used more as a general thing and less as a definitive guide.

Do what jericho says, he has the right idea... and you know.. yourself and the mirror are excellent ways to check the weight. Start with going for something in the 170 area... see how you look and feel.. maybe if you exercise you've gained some muscle and blood weight. Maybe you want to go further down, then you aim for 150.. see what happens there etc.

The most important thing when it comes to health isn't actually weight per se, it has more to do with cardiovascular health, lung health and such things (fitness level), and in the longer run also how your body support your body (basically muscle strength through the full range of motion) and such... so.. yeah.

Oh, and in general, people who sells stuff, are not reliable, ever.

edit: And 130 is too low for you unless you have a SUPER small frame and very little muscle, like you say.
 
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