HCG diet

vespergirl

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I just read an article in Marie Claire magazine lauding the HCG diet where you inject yourself with pregnancy hormone. Apparently it really works if you can get past the ick factor of giving yourself daily injections for a month and a half.

It's supposed to be best for stubborn fat, and after having my second baby, I am now only 6 pounds away from my goal, but I'm a size 8 instead of my old size 6 because of all the fat that has settled around my butt & thighs that wasn't there before.

Anyway, I don't know of anyone who's tried this in real life, so I wanted to see if anyone on here has heard about it.

There's actually a plastic surgeon in my area who offers this program, but I don't want to even go in for a consultation until I hear if it really has worked for other people ...
 
does that really sound like a good idea to you? injecting hormones into your body??

here is one of many sites warning about the dangers of the HCG injections...
 
You can also get it so that you put drops under your tongue. BUT, let me tell you that this is the stupidest "diet" ever. First off, there is NO scientific evidence that HCG makes you burn fat, in fact, it is the fact that you can only eat 500 cals a day that makes you lose so much weight.

Second, I know women who have done it. They have gained the weight back right away, got into car accidents because their brain had no calories to work properly and they got light headed and almost passed out, and it is SOOO strict. You cannot even TOUCH anything with oil in it... so no lotion, must use special shampoo, and cannot have pretty much anything to eat except for specially sold food items and specific fruits and veggies.

HCG is stupid, it is a MYTH, you can lose the weight by eating triple the calories and exercising moderately... and you are way more likely to keep it off. Don't buy into the hype that HCG is "safe" I am taking multiple nutrition classes and have personally lose 43 pounds by doing it the right way so I know that anything that limits your calorie intake to 500 cals a day is BULL SH!T
 
I had to take daily B-12 injections because I was almost fatally low on B-12. Oh, B-12 is supposed to help you lose weight too! NOT!
I'll pass. You are so close to goal. if you have fat on hips/thighs may I recommend either a recumbent bike & or the eliptical? Both of those whooped on my butt in the gym. i had sore butt & thigh muscles I never knew even existed. LOL
Give yourself 6 weeks of eating right & using those machines for an hour 4x per week and I BET you'd have a lot of success (and tighter butt & thighs). Plus a sense of control & real accomplishment.
sorry, fads are the easy way out of the situation...and likely to land you back where you started, or worse......sooner than later. Just MY 2 cents.
 
Hey everyone, thanks for your feedback. Honestly, it I don't think that I could eat just 500 calories a day & no oil. I am doing "slow-carb" now (no white starches, no dairy & no fruit) and I lost another 3 pounds this week, so I'm only 3 pounds from my goal, and this diet seems to be working fine.

I think I just need to accept the fact that my proportions are going to be different in my mid-30s after having 2 kids. I am now 151, but am still have a wider hip measurement than I did before kids at 155. My goal weight is 148, but I don't think I'll have the shape I want at that weight. Maybe I'll try to get down to 140 - 145, and hopefully my size 6 stuff will be loose on me again.

The tempting thing that I read about the hcg diet in the Marie Claire article was that the woman who wrote it said that she lost the stubborn fat deposits that she put on when she had her kids, so she went back to her pre-baby body. I guess I'm just going to need to lose more weight & be lighter than I was before kids to have my pants & skirts fit better ...
 
I just read an article in Marie Claire magazine lauding the HCG diet where you inject yourself with pregnancy hormone. ....................There's actually a plastic surgeon in my area who offers this program, but I don't want to even go in for a consultation until I hear if it really has worked for other people ...

***SNAKE OIL ALERT***

Sounds like a sure-fire scheme to separate people from their money.

I fail to see how this would be better than calorie counting, nutrition watching and some excercise. Perhaps the Dr pushing this plan can explain.
 
It' the 500 calorie diet NOT the HCG. When it came out out in the 70's a friend of mine went on it. I tried to tell her it was the 500 a day calorie a day that would make her lose weight. So to prove she was wasting her money I went on a 1000 calorie diet and exercised every day. We did this for 2 weeks. Guess who lost more and felt better? ME. I felt good and she felt like crap. She stopped taking the injections and her weight came back on in a few days.

This is just another old scheme brought back to hit up a new generation.
 
water on the fire

It' the 500 calorie diet NOT the HCG.

In part, but that would be oversimplifying the program. Very few people on the hCG forums are eating below 800 calories and still loosing huge amounts of weight.

She stopped taking the injections and her weight came back on in a few days.

There is a very specific protocol for stopping the diet, if you don't follow the protocol, Dr. Simeon promises that the weight will come back immediately. Chances are your "friend" didn't do what was needed to stop taking the hormone and maintain her loss.

I fail to see how this would be better than calorie counting, nutrition watching and some excercise. Perhaps the Dr pushing this plan can explain.

He does explain! His research publication is called "Pounds and Inches" and is readily and freely available all over the internet. It's a technical and dry read about biology and his research on obesity. Some of it's outdated and clearly speculative, but at least you know how he came to develop the theory of how hCG helps you lose stored fat.

...there is NO scientific evidence that HCG makes you burn fat.

Years of research by a doctor! What do you think scientific evidence is? Well, scientists were wrong about eggs too, are you old enough to remember that? When a doctor does research, he's either honestly trying to find ways to "heal" people, or he's a quack. It's a subjective matter. But I doubt someone would spend years researching something just so he can fool us - he's not profiting from the sale of hCG, drug companies are, and his manuscript is freely available. He has nothing to gain.

Even if after reading the manuscript you still don't buy his theory, you can't deny the man was trying to help people with his research.

You cannot even TOUCH anything with oil in it... so no lotion, must use special shampoo, and cannot have pretty much anything to eat except for specially sold food items and specific fruits and veggies.

Specially sold? Wrong. He 'recommends' organic. The list of foods is very simple and available at any market. There's 200 grams of white meat and white fish, and cottage cheese - all the normal protein items we eat when we are dieting. The list of fruits and vegetables seems restrictive, but the list he gives is antiquated. He did his research in regions where they didn't have (for example) broccoli, but modern users of the diet eat broccoli without consequence. He's big on no-starch so potatoes and beans are out. With fruit, apples seem to be free, but high-sugar fruit like berries and bananas are out. But it's a diet - you can do without bananas and beans for 6 weeks to cut back on sugar. Even on a normal diet without hCG, I can't believe how people who eat bananas expect to loose weight!

Try to keep in mind too, this is a physician giving recommendations. He's exceedingly pedantic and excessively precise with his instructions. Try to take it with a grain of salt and you won't over-react to what you are reading!

The idea of no lotions is also antiquated. His study was done decades ago, so lotions and shampoos we use today already have a lot less lard in them them than they use to. We even have oil-free lotions, and shampoo especially for oily hair (which remove oil) - none of these products existed when he did his research.

The other thing that's antiquated is that you need to follow the 500 calorie restriction. I've been following the hCG forums for months and the majority of people are eating between 800 and 1000 calories a day, and losing just as much as is promised by the 500 calorie diet. It could very well be that the good doctor knew factored in human error, and accounted for an instruction of 500 calories would result in 800.

To say that hCG doesn't contribute anything is completely ignoring the theory behind the diet. If you aren't more than superficially familiar with the theory or the research which supports it, you might want to take a look instead of casting ignorant remarks in disbelief.

I was extremely skeptical, and I also took 5 months of nutrition classes so nothing about the 500 calories set well with me either. My experience, and my 1200 calories a day, and losing 7lbs in 10 days, convinced me that the hCG does indeed do something.

Keep in mind too that I have been successfully dieting on 1500-1600 calories a day for the past 6 months (lost 50lbs) - so neither you nor I can claim it's "water weight".

Every diet program has warnings. Dehydration, nutrient deficiency, etc. The warnings take into account what could happen if the theory is wrong. What happens when the theory is right? Whether it's dieting or driving, carelessness is dangerous - so take care, be aware of how your body is reacting. You've read it before: You should consult a doctor before starting ANY diet program. Few people take that seriously. Don't act like the hCG program is special, all diets have potential pitfalls.

Read the research, then form an educated opinion. Try it or don't. Everyone has to find their own way.
 
There is a difference between changing your diet, experimenting with calorie needs and cleaning up what you eat, and injecting hormones into your body that will screw up your hormone system and have a good chance to damage your body permanently.

Any 'diet' suggesting 800 - 1000 calories intake already disqualified itself from being a healthy suggestion. It's a crash diet. Plus, on 800 - 1000 cals, you will lose weight, without pumping yourself full of a substance that shouldn't be there - you're starving, so yeah, weight loss will come easy.

Even on 1200 to 1500 calories, the weight loss stems from the calorie deficit, not the HCG. It doesn't take science, simple logic should do the maths for you there.

Two years ago I lost 120 lbs without ever going under 2500 calories a day. At the moment, I am on about 2200 calories, and steadily losing 2 - 3 lbs per week.

You say all diets have their downfalls - I disagree. A healthly lifestyle change, sensible calorie reduction and exercise have no possible way of harming your body.
HCG does, and will. There is no way you can pump your body full of a hormone (and overload it with said hormone), without doing damage. I wonder how many long term studies about HCG as a weight loss method are out there? I mean, over ten years and more? And conducted by people not trying to sell this method?

Personally, I think of all the 'diets' out there, this is most likely the most dangerous and damaging, and the one that should immidiately ring alarm bells with anybody who has any concern for their own health.
But hey...to each their own. It's your body, you wreck it any which way you like.
 
Forget the 500-calorie part!

I was the biggest skeptic on the planet. But being as over-educated as I am, I knew that I could solidly answer my skepticism, one way or the other, with a little research. I did, and you can too.

I didn't expect to think differently than I did before I read the research, but I do. Don't trust me, don't entertain my information - read the research yourself and see what you come away with. If nothing else, you'll have learned a little more about hormones, biology, and how they interact with fat. We keep talking about a healthy diet, how about a little healthy curiosity, eh?

There is a difference between changing your diet, experimenting with calorie needs and cleaning up what you eat, and injecting hormones into your body that will screw up your hormone system and have a good chance to damage your body permanently.

Birth control pills are a hormone, but millions and millions of women take them for both birth control and to relieve symptoms of menopause without damaging their bodies. hCG is the hormone generated by pregnant women, whose bodies are arguably damaged after having a baby, but not damaged in the way you suggest. People take hormones all the time, without damage, steroids not being the best example, but insulin, thyroid, cortisone, lynolic acid is in our moisturizers, hystamines, adrenaline (for asthma)! Hormones are everywhere, all the time, without damage. There is no evidence that there is any damage from ingesting hCG, and you haven't provided any - because there isn't any! And I know this because I've looked for it.

I will, however, admit that this is a method of tricking a body to burn fat that is stored for things like pregnancy, but your insistence that it does not contribute to weight-loss makes it clear that you are not aware of the role this hormone plays in controlling fat stores in the body.

Any 'diet' suggesting 800 - 1000 calories intake already disqualified itself from being a healthy suggestion. It's a crash diet. Plus, on 800 - 1000 cals, you will lose weight, without pumping yourself full of a substance that shouldn't be there - you're starving, so yeah, weight loss will come easy.

It appears you aren't aware of the function of the hormone. You are only arguing what everyone can agree on, calories. When you don't know/understand the function of the hormone, it's like talking to a child about how you know the earth goes 'round the sun every 365 days; they can't fathom the idea.

You talked about how you know hormones are powerful...imagine if that powerful hormone could release store fat, full of valuable nutrients, and then your amazing body could absorb the nutrients from that release, minimizing your need to put nutrients into your body manually? It's biology, and just like math, not believing in or not knowing about it, doesn't make it untrue.

Even on 1200 to 1500 calories, the weight loss stems from the calorie deficit, not the HCG. It doesn't take science, simple logic should do the maths for you there.

I agree that any calorie deficit will result in a loss. And again, ignoring the biology of the hormone does not make your statement true.

Two years ago I lost 120 lbs without ever going under 2500 calories a day. At the moment, I am on about 2200 calories, and steadily losing 2 - 3 lbs per week.

At my size of 120kg, my body requires 3000 calories a day to maintain it's size, so I could also loose weight on 2500 calories a day. Bravo, you have demonstrated your math skills. Now if you want to include biology in this discussion, we could have a two-way conversation.

You say all diets have their downfalls - I disagree. A healthly lifestyle change, sensible calorie reduction and exercise have no possible way of harming your body.

I see that you are one of the millions of people who lightly undertake a diet and exercise program without knowing the potential risks involved.

Few people see their doctor before starting a diet and believe that cutting back calories is all there is to it. When someone isn't educated in nutrition, there are many areas where a person can go wrong with nutrient deficiency or protein deficiency, and harm themselves permanently without ever intending to. Receeding gums is a common, irreversible effect of poor nutrition, for example. There are also psychological risks of certain personality types which a doctor might be in a better position to recognize than the average forum moderator. Anorexia begins with a diet, and it kills.

An overweight person might be suffering undiagnosed high blood pressure or heart conditions which could result in stroke, heart attack or death, from the exertion of moderate exercise. Diagnosis and treatment should be taken before staring a diet and exercise program full stop. Few people take this very necessary stay, thereby making any reduction and exercise plan a risk.

HCG does, and will. There is no way you can pump your body full of a hormone (and overload it with said hormone), without doing damage. I wonder how many long term studies about HCG as a weight loss method are out there? I mean, over ten years and more? And conducted by people not trying to sell this method?

If there's "no way", then where are all the dead, wrecked people? I would expect that they (or their families) would complain loudly. I looked for the dead and wrecked, and I didn't find any. Did you look for them?

How much is the overload you speak of? Do you have the comparative values of a pregnant woman vs. a daily dose of hCG for the program? I do. The information is out there. but you are arguing without any substance to back it up.

Dr. Simeon's research lasted several decades and he never tried to sell anything. His manuscript is freely available all over the internet and the drug companies are the only benefactor from the sale of hCG.

You do better to argue that there is no such person as Dr. Simeon and that this diet is a device of the pharmaceutical companies to make more money.

Personally, I think of all the 'diets' out there, this is most likely the most dangerous and damaging, and the one that should immidiately ring alarm bells with anybody who has any concern for their own health.

I don't know how old you are but this is not the most dangerous diet in my lifetime and the danger, if it exists, has yet to be revealed. The program has been around for decades and hasn't "wrecked" anyone. Do you have proof that it has? I wrote how skeptical I was and yet I couldn't find any proof of damage - only warnings, and I already spoke to those.

Neither the tabloid nor the mainstream media have latched on to it as a danger to society which they surely would have, had it ever caused any damage. No medical lobbies have tried to get it wiped from existence to protect the public. And if Dr. Simeon were selling the program, he would have been sued, repeatedly, by the people who were harmed - and yet he hasn't been sued. Nor have the companies selling hCG. This simply wouldn't be the case if it were as big a danger as people like you claim it to be. And that's all they are, claims.

Millions of people tried PhenPhen and within months, people die died and many have life-long heart problems as a result. The company was sued, repeatedly, and the victims and the wreckage were all over the media. People take amphetamine or amphetamine-like substances as appetite suppressants and diet aids to this day, which are both addictive, cause heart problems with long-term use, and have caused heart attacks in people not using them under a doctor's supervision. Also in the news, also sued, even the Government drug administration regulations have been changed,which is no small feat, to protect the public from these products. This has not happened with hCG. Do yourself a favor and ask yourself why! I know I did!

But hey...to each their own. It's your body, you wreck it any which way you like.

To each their own, you can have as many ignorant opinions as you like! :coolgleamA:

Regardless of how it's currently being employed, this "program" wasn't meant to be a weight-loss solution. If you read the manuscript, which you clearly haven't, the doctor was looking for a cure for the disease called obesity. He might have found it, but because there's no money in curing a disease that earns millions for the drug companies, no drug company will endorse the method.

A little investigation might turn your skepticism toward the drug companies. You might wonder why they haven't invested in further development of this hormone as a cure for obesity. They earn far more money off fat, sick, people than they do off thin, healthy people - it's one easy answer for why they don't do anything. Nobody has come along to disprove Dr. Simeon's theory - and why not? Is it disprovable? Someone could get all kinds of scientific and medical accolades for disproving a popular and controversial theory like this, surely there must be several people looking for an easy ride and 15 minutes of fame....but they aren't out there.

It's a really interesting theory, I genuinely encourage you, especially if you are skeptical, to read it. Forget the 500 calorie part - read the hormone study, you might be surprised by what you come away with. And even if you don't agree that hCG contributes to weight-loss after reading it, wouldn't it be cool if you knew enough to argue more sensibly about it? Education on biology and hormones never hurt anyone, don't be afraid to endeavor it.
 
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I read through your post, and thought about what to say, and about half way through I thought to myself...why bother?

You are convinced this is good for you, and you are losing weight, and I guess in the end, that's all that matters to you.

I wish you all the best, but I really don't have the time or the patience to go into your post in detail. I could dissect it, and start with how wrong you are about the birth control pill, and continue with the fact that as a nurse, I know a fair bit about how hormones work and really don't need any study to 'broaden my knowledge', but....nah. I don't feel that overwhelming need to talk down to people. I gladly leave that to people who are much better at it than me.

You do it your way, I do it mine. It's that simple. I wish you all the best with your weight loss, and the rest of your life. I hope it works out for you.

And just an afterthought...obesity is NOT a disease.
 
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I read through your post, and thought about what to say, and about half way through I thought to myself...why bother?

You are convinced this is good for you, and you are losing weight, and I guess in the end, that's all that matters to you.

I wish you all the best, but I really don't have the time or the patience to go into your post in detail. I could dissect it, and start with how wrong you are about the birth control pill, and continue with the fact that as a nurse, I know a fair bit about how hormones work and really don't need any study to 'broaden my knowledge', but....nah. I don't feel that overwhelming need to talk down to people. I gladly leave that to people who are much better at it than me.

You do it your way, I do it mine. It's that simple. I wish you all the best with your weight loss, and the rest of your life. I hope it works out for you.

And just an afterthought...obesity is NOT a disease.

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I did the HCG Drops and lost 80lbs. I have no idea if it was the drops that allowed the weight to come off or the 500 calories. Even losing that much weight, I will never do them again. I felt terrible, couldn't work out, and my work suffered. Related or not at the end of my second round I was bitten by a brown recluse spider on my left big toe. This with a staff infection caused me to lose my toe. The doctor stated that it looked like my bod didnt try to fight the infection. Is this related to the HCG I have no idea, but I tried another round after this and one week into the round I developed another infection. Ended up in the hospital for 3 days this time but keep everything I went in with. It scared me so bad I will not try it again. I lost a hundred pounds on my own before HCG and will get off my final pounds without it.

Gizmo
 
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