hard gainer..

Ok guys.. I've been working out for a long time now. And I am stuck! I can lift alot, I can do alot...and I feel the burn alot! my core muscles are in good shape. I'm not slacking when I workout, but for some reason i'm stuck! I haven't gained any mass.. My diet is good, not perfect.. but good. I feel like I kill myself at the gym and im getting no reward for it? Maybe i need to switch up my exercises? I've been working alot with dumbells for along time.. now im starting to focus more on resistance training.. machines such as the cable cross and other various pectoral machines for my chest.. Is there any advice someone could give me? maybe some new ways to help build some mass.. :confused:
 
Three letters. E-A-T. Diet is everything, it needs to be damn close to perfect anyhow. Paired up with a good routine is due for some muscle mass gaining bro. Actually, in all honesty, John Berardi can say it a whole hell of a lot better than me, I'd highly recommend the book Scrawny to Brawny by John Berardi and Mike Mejia, definately worth the buy and very informative.

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Are you gaining weight? You wont bulk up if you are not eating more calories than your body burns during a day!
Also, i bet your routine needs some help. Do a search for "full body workout" on the forum, and you should find tons of posts giving the advice i would give here.

And i second scrawny to brawny. The book was designed for people like you to help them get on some mass.
 
Thanks for the advice guys. I'll work on it.. Today's meals were

Breakfast: Oatmeal, banana, 10g protein bar.
Lunch: Grilled chicken breast on a tortilla with lettuce and tomato
Dinner: Two grilled cheese, another protein bar, and 60gram whey shake..

Not too bad? I know people say eat like 6-7 small meals but i don't usually have the time or the means to do that so..
 
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Thanks for the advice guys. I'll work on it.. Today's meals were

Breakfast: Oatmeal, banana, 10g protein bar.
Lunch: Grilled chicken breast on a tortilla with lettuce and tomato
Dinner: Two grilled cheese, another protein bar, and 60gram whey shake..

Not too bad? I know people say eat like 6-7 small meals but i don't usually have the time or the means to do that so..

sorry mate but i could eat that in one meal not enough carbs healthy fats etc.
 
you need more food. Get 6 meals, its pretty importaint. It doesnt have to be something fancy that takes hours to cock each time.
 
There's no such thing as a hardgainer.
Post in the nutritional section and we'll work out a proper diet for you.
 
there is such thing as a hardgainer. Or, hardgainer might be the wrong way to say it. Ectomorph, vounurable to stress, etc, making it harder for them to gain muscle, and they often need more rest to recover.

Though alot of people do say they are hardgainers without really being one, because they just dont eat.
 
Ok, so, I realize I don't eat good... haha. Could you make me a simple grocery list.. theres usually like nothing to eat at my house so.. anything would help. thanks again for the feedback
 
there is such thing as a hardgainer. Or, hardgainer might be the wrong way to say it. Ectomorph, vounurable to stress, etc, making it harder for them to gain muscle, and they often need more rest to recover.

Though alot of people do say they are hardgainers without really being one, because they just dont eat.

Ecto's are ideal for gaining muscle! No fat too loose.. any change in muscle mass they'll see immediately.

There is no such thing as a hardgainer, indeed, none of the "hardgainers" eat enough :)
 
Read up on different body types.skinny fat Ectomorphs, mesomorphs (which is the real ideal type, they are lean and have good potential to gain muscle mass) and endomorphs.


that explaines a bit about the hormones and stuff, read under "The Skinny-Fat Ectomorph – Summarizing the Problems" and "Poor Endocrine Status – Overproduction of Stress Hormones"
though id really recommend just reading the whole thing.

Only thing im not sure about in that article is how he reffers to two kinds of ectos, the "ripped ecto" and the "skinny fat ecto". I belive the "ripped ecto" he talks about is what ive been taught is called a mesomorph.

Again i say there is such thing as a hardgainer if you think about the fact that most of them are ectomorphs. They cant handle stress well (along with other things, read the article), like i said, and training causes stress to the body.

Skinny Fat Ectomorph = Hard gainer

how people started denying the fact that some people are hard gainers is beyond me. Alright, the term is WAY overused, people say they are hard gainers all the time, so alot of the people who say they are, probobly arent. But that doesn't mean it doesnt exist.

Where have you heard that there is no such thing as a hard gainer?
 
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I agree with Xenth. The term "hardgainer" is likened to the terms, "not trying hard enough," and "excuses for not getting results." "Hardgainers" just want to blame their lack of results in something besides themselves.

Sure, there are different body types, and each has its own points that need more work. Learning and exploiting those points is what masses results.

Real life "hardgainer" example - Tommy Kono -

Tommy had severe asthma, people said he would always be weak and have health problems. He grew up during the depression. With little food and money.

Was transported to a Japanese relocation camp during WWII.

Was drafted into the Korean War in 1951. He basically had health and circumstantial situations that "should" have kept him from having results.

Yet, he still became one of the most successful Olympic weight lifters of all time, setting world records in 4 weight classes.

I have been lucky enough to have spent some time with the man and can say that he is one of the most giving people I have met when it comes to knowledge about training and life.

If one man can become great after all of that, YOU, can learn enough and work hard enough to get all of the results you can dream of. None of this is easy.

As long as there are people like him, and stories like his, (believe me there are 100's of them) I will go to my grave believing that a "hardgainer" is just not tough enough to get themselves results.

Stepping off soap box. - This is a sensitive subject for me since I was 5'11" and 100lbs at age 15. I benched 65lbs and squatted 95lbs. After having been weight lifting for 3 years.

I still was able to gain weight to over 300lbs. Squat 850 and bench 625, snatch over 350, clean and jerk over 425. Compete in Olympic weightlifting, Powerlifting, and Strongest man, over a competitive career of 12 years. EVERYONE, can get the results they want, if they want them bad enough.
 
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