for those that sucessfully lost 75+ pounds, how did you start?

61scout80

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I've been steadily and effectively fixing my diet over the last month. Last week i joined a gym. Today was my freebie/sales pitch with a trainer.

I have lived what I consider an extremely sedentary lifestyle for the last 2 or 3 years. I quite literally get winded carrying my 300 pound self up a set of stairs. my back aches from simply walking. My muscles are non existent, even picking up a case of paper at work is a strain. I'm in TERRIBLE shape, and it's quite embarrassing to admit this, even anonymously on the internet...

Anyway, the trainer started off with some squats, planks, and a few other exercises that weren't anything terrible for my wife who was sharing the session. For me it was a complete other story. This level of activity nearly made me pass out, another admission that is quite the embarrassment to admit.

I had planned to start off much easier than the trainer was pushing me. I don't feel that our 10-15 minutes before was very effective. I'm not sure if it's a rational thought, but I kinda get the feeling I'm a bit of a different case than most trainers get to work with.

So, the TL;DR for those that have gotten it done from similar a condition, Did you jump into a rigid exercise program, or did you slowly work up to it?
 
I don't know yet, but I do know how you're feeling. I'm slowly working it up to working out more as I have to obey my knees, right now they're the boss.

Good luck!!!
 
Hey 61. I have lost about 60 pounds, so I hope you are okay with me posting here (I feel like 60 was a lot!)...

The reason I really wanted to post, was to comment on the trainer pushing you past your comfort level. I just ran my first half-marathon of my whole life, and that relates to your question because you said how did you start. Well, I didn't push myself much past comfort. I knew I had to work hard, but I progressed in moderation. I started walking, only about 2 miles. That was about 9 months ago. Then went to jogging for 10 second bursts... the point is, it was slow and steady that I lost weight, and gained endurance. This kept me motivated. I am guessing you are going to 24 fitness or LA fitness, my money is on 24, because they REALLY push their training. I would search for things that make you motivated, but keep a pace that you are comfortable with. Don't put an artificial date that you "want to" be skinny. Our bodies do it at their own pace. Once I accepted that I was not control of the pace my body lost weight, I was AMAZED at how free I felt, and the stress of trying to reach a goal was removed. We have the rest of our lives, so what if it takes a few more months to drop the pounds? That's just my opinion haha!
 
for me it may not have been 75 lb but it was about 60 (estimate as I never weighed myself at my heaviest), I was always fit and healthy until I had a number of knee injuries which added up to needing knee surgery after which I had no confidence in the ability of my knee to not collapse under me so I became very sedentary and gained a lot of weight. I started to loose that weight the day I got fed up with not being able to do the things I enjoy so I joined a local sports team (rugby union) since that time and after a lot of work I have kept the weight off and become physically stronger than the average person by pure dedication to achieving my goals.
 
About four years ago I lost nearly 90lb (unfortunately put about 33 back on again, but I did gain some insight into how to lose weight). Part of it was definitely diet- I spent less time with and eventually broke up with (for unrelated reasons) the boyfriend who got me into atrocious eating habits. Part of it, unfortunately, was illness (I got glandular fever, aka mono, which causes some weight loss).

But I think the biggest part was fitness (which is what you're asking about, it seems). I had a quite severe case of glandular fever (for reasons I won't go into- they're complicated and TMI- I ended up with a "minor" case of internal bleeding), and was bedridden for nearly six weeks (I got up once a day and took half an hour to struggle to the toilet. My house wasn't that big, I just found every move extraordinarily painful and exhausting). I ended up with chronic pain even after the internal bleeding had been sorted out (again, difficult to explain). I ended up going to a physiotherapist who specialised in pain management (and as a result of this program, my chronic pain went away). He advised me to start slowly, and build it up from there- walking 10 minutes at a speed I was comfortable with (very slowly, as I was still very unwell and in large amounts of pain), and increasing that by a minute a day. This may be too slow/ little for you, but the principle is to start with something eminently manageable and build it up by trivial amounts. (Similarly, when I decided I wanted to start running- I have weak knees, so this is an issue for me- I started with 5 seconds, and built up in 5 second intervals. I started this about 3 months after I started the walking, and I started at a barely running pace and built up as I became comfortable).

I think a similar approach might work for you. Perhaps, as we're not talking about rehabilitation here, push yourself a little bit harder than I did. Walk for 10 minutes (or whatever amount constitutes "trivial" for you), at a speed just above what you're comfortable with (the idea is to break into a bit of a sweat). Increase that by 30 seconds- a minute (the idea is to increase by an amount which is trivial) every day (do this 6 days a week).

It sounds like you were given a workout well past what you were capable of (heck, it sounds like I'd struggle a bit). Strength training is definitely important, but I wouldn't know how to advise starting that completely from scratch (not like that though!).
 
I don't know yet, but I do know how you're feeling. I'm slowly working it up to working out more as I have to obey my knees, right now they're the boss.

Good luck!!!

Good luck to you as well!

Hey 61. I have lost about 60 pounds, so I hope you are okay with me posting here (I feel like 60 was a lot!)...

The reason I really wanted to post, was to comment on the trainer pushing you past your comfort level. I just ran my first half-marathon of my whole life, and that relates to your question because you said how did you start. Well, I didn't push myself much past comfort. I knew I had to work hard, but I progressed in moderation. I started walking, only about 2 miles. That was about 9 months ago. Then went to jogging for 10 second bursts... the point is, it was slow and steady that I lost weight, and gained endurance. This kept me motivated. I am guessing you are going to 24 fitness or LA fitness, my money is on 24, because they REALLY push their training. I would search for things that make you motivated, but keep a pace that you are comfortable with. Don't put an artificial date that you "want to" be skinny. Our bodies do it at their own pace. Once I accepted that I was not control of the pace my body lost weight, I was AMAZED at how free I felt, and the stress of trying to reach a goal was removed. We have the rest of our lives, so what if it takes a few more months to drop the pounds? That's just my opinion haha!

Congrats on your weight loss, 60 pounds is HUGE! in hindsight is was a little silly for me to put a number in the thread title.

It's actually LA Fitness, and i'm not sure how to feel about the freebie session. I'm still digesting the trainers opinions, but I certainly got that used car salesman vibe. It was as if he tried to convince me all my research was incorrect. That gave me the feeling that he was trying to create doubt in my mind so I pay him. Perhaps i'm being a little critical, but everything I mentioned I was doing successfully he said I should do different...

My plan is much like yours, start off easy and slowly build. it's been working for me for the last month or so. In the past I have tried slamming myself right into a fast diet and exercise and it never worked. This time I'm taking a much more calculated approach...



for me it may not have been 75 lb but it was about 60 (estimate as I never weighed myself at my heaviest), I was always fit and healthy until I had a number of knee injuries which added up to needing knee surgery after which I had no confidence in the ability of my knee to not collapse under me so I became very sedentary and gained a lot of weight. I started to loose that weight the day I got fed up with not being able to do the things I enjoy so I joined a local sports team (rugby union) since that time and after a lot of work I have kept the weight off and become physically stronger than the average person by pure dedication to achieving my goals.

congrats!

About four years ago I lost nearly 90lb (unfortunately put about 33 back on again, but I did gain some insight into how to lose weight). Part of it was definitely diet- I spent less time with and eventually broke up with (for unrelated reasons) the boyfriend who got me into atrocious eating habits. Part of it, unfortunately, was illness (I got glandular fever, aka mono, which causes some weight loss).

But I think the biggest part was fitness (which is what you're asking about, it seems). I had a quite severe case of glandular fever (for reasons I won't go into- they're complicated and TMI- I ended up with a "minor" case of internal bleeding), and was bedridden for nearly six weeks (I got up once a day and took half an hour to struggle to the toilet. My house wasn't that big, I just found every move extraordinarily painful and exhausting). I ended up with chronic pain even after the internal bleeding had been sorted out (again, difficult to explain). I ended up going to a physiotherapist who specialized in pain management (and as a result of this program, my chronic pain went away). He advised me to start slowly, and build it up from there- walking 10 minutes at a speed I was comfortable with (very slowly, as I was still very unwell and in large amounts of pain), and increasing that by a minute a day. This may be too slow/ little for you, but the principle is to start with something eminently manageable and build it up by trivial amounts. (Similarly, when I decided I wanted to start running- I have weak knees, so this is an issue for me- I started with 5 seconds, and built up in 5 second intervals. I started this about 3 months after I started the walking, and I started at a barely running pace and built up as I became comfortable).

I think a similar approach might work for you. Perhaps, as we're not talking about rehabilitation here, push yourself a little bit harder than I did. Walk for 10 minutes (or whatever amount constitutes "trivial" for you), at a speed just above what you're comfortable with (the idea is to break into a bit of a sweat). Increase that by 30 seconds- a minute (the idea is to increase by an amount which is trivial) every day (do this 6 days a week).

It sounds like you were given a workout well past what you were capable of (heck, it sounds like I'd struggle a bit). Strength training is definitely important, but I wouldn't know how to advise starting that completely from scratch (not like that though!).


wow, thanks for the humbling reminder that things could be way worse, glad you pulled through!
With cardio I've been aiming for a target heart rate, and riding the stationary bike for 20 or so minutes, by the end of it I definitely feel it. I am however looking forward to the day that i get to push the level up a little more, go a little longer and so on.
 
Thanks :) I'm completely ok now, just weighing a bit more than I'd like to (I want to weigh 60kg, or 132lb, I currently weigh 69.5, 152, and I started this weight loss at about 165. At my heaviest all that time ago I was 100kg, or 220.5lb). It was just a set of bad luck, to be honest. For me, I got my life back (for a couple of months life wasn't worth living) and the important lesson to be drawn is that you can get your fitness levels up even if you're in a pretty bad way (I went from walking very very slowly for 10 minutes at a time to walking at an almost jogging pace for an hour with bursts in there of running as fast as I could for up to 5 min at a time. It can be done).

The cardio sounds like a good plan. I was thinking on this and perhaps something to do for strength training is to use an aerobics DVD (or free information which you can find online)? I have some by Rosemary Conley (I don't use them much anymore because I have people living below me and I can't jump around, and I get heaps out of the gym), but they had strength and toning sessions at the end, with various levels of difficulty (from very easy to bloody hard). Some of these things do involve weights (at the harder level), and for that I used a can of baked beans. Alternately, you could just take those principles, make a program for yourself (this is a very useful website for strength training: Workout Creation Instructions ) and just do it at your own pace. If a trainer is going to push you beyond what you can reasonably do, they're not worth having. (I can do most of the things you're describing, but I'd struggle if someone was standing by me and telling me to do more or go faster or whatever- I need to do them at my own pace)
 
I apologize in advance for the length of this, but I do not have a TL;DR version ;)

Hello 61! I was in a similar position as you were, at my biggest even trivial activities were making me sweat and I was getting winded just using the stairs. I lost just over 120 lbs by the end of my weight loss journey but I did it slowly.

The very first thing I did was stop drinking mt. dew and I quit my job at a fast food joint realizing it was a volatile environment for an obese individual trying to make dietary changes, I went to work in a lumber yard at a local home improvement store. Now quitting your job and getting one that requires you to be more active may not be realistic but I was pretty young so I did not have to worry about leaving a career behind.

So besides the change of scenery in my working life I did not have a gym membership when I first started losing weight; I had an active workplace so I focused on what I was eating/drinking. As I said mt. dew was the first thing to go. I still drank pop but I was turning to “healthier” (don’t even really feel comfortable using that word in connection with pop) pops and I started drinking a lot of juice.

My food changes came in small spurts. I still ate fast food but I started exploring other options that the insane meals I had been eating and I started going to the grocery store more often so I could have more choices on what I was eating. Eventually I started focusing on nutrition labels and made an effort to always read them and try to compare labels of different brands to find the healthier option; that eventually evolved into restricting food types altogether based on what I was seeing on the nutrition labels because let’s face it, just because one candy bar is healthIER than another it does not qualify that candy bar as being healthy.

I did not have anyone in my life to turn to for weight loss advice because no one I knew had gone through it in the scope I was, so I turned to searching the internet for whatever information I could find. I never did have the sense to join a forum like this for support but I really wish I had. Because I was trying to self-educate myself it was a lot of trial and error as I progressed through my weight loss but I have come to realize a slow steady pace is the healthiest way to lose weight and a little bit of trial and error may not be a bad thing because what works for some may not work for others. We are all different and our bodies react differently, and this applies to exercise as well. I eventually did get a gym membership when I moved out of the lumber yard and my job became a lot more sedentary; the key with physical activity really is to be doing something, anything, which gets your heart rate up.

My recommendations for you- If you have a rather sedentary job and changing your workplace is not feasible then get a gym membership. Mall walking is all good and well but you can do a lot more at a gym to keep yourself active than you can without it; you may even find a piece of equipment there you really like that will help keep you coming back! As far as effort goes trainers are supposed to push you, that is their job, but they are not supposed to cause you harm; mild discomfort yes, real physical pain to the point of almost passing out no. Especially for someone around 300 just getting into a workout routine; you need to be getting your heart rate up, sweating you butt off, getting winded and fatigued! But there comes a threshold and if you feel like you are about to pass out you need to take a short break for at least a minute or two, get some water (hydration is incredibly important during exercise), and if your trainer doesn’t like it tough! If you are laying on the ground in a puddle of sweat barely concious and finding it hard to move and they are still yelling at you to “push it” they have watched too many obscene trainers on t.v. and do NOT have your best health in mind. Don’t take this rant the wrong way though. You need to increase your physical activity level and challenge yourself just remember what works for some may not work for others so you need to try different things and do whatever it takes to get your heart rate up, even if it is simply grabbing a pair of dumbbells and doing the “Farmers Walk” around the gym or even better on a stair master until you are ready to move on to something more active.

As far as nutrition whenever you are about to eat get an image in your mind of your ideal self as far as body composition goes. Spend some time now getting a strong image of yourself in your mind and then shape and mold it into your ideal obtainable physique so you can call upon the image the next time you are hungry. Use this image to find the strength to eat less, pick the carrots and dip over the Doritos, the grilled chicken instead of the deep fried chicken, the 100% juice instead of the sugar-riddled soda, etc. If you really want a change you need to set the goal for yourself of what you want to obtain so you have something move towards rather than wandering blindly down the path until you are lost. Read all nutrition labels and compare brands, food types, and weigh your options.

Recording your physical activities can be tedious and I personally don’t like it but it does help motivate some and hold them accountable (especially if they set goals for amounts of physical activity to get each day/week), so an activity log may be helpful. A log I strongly recommend regardless is a food log. They are even more tedious to start than an activity log but they are extremely useful in holding yourself accountable to your caloric intake as well as macronutrient intake proportions, and after the first few weeks they no longer take as much time and effort to maintain since you get a handle on how to use them and if they are electronic you can often create custom foods that you eat a lot to streamline things. Fitday makes a great free one and once you get a hang of it you wonr have to spend anymore than a few minutes a day to log your meals! An added benefit is trainers and many of us here will be able to look at them if you decide to share it and we will then be able to provide better guidance on changes you should make.

Slow and steady can win the race, as long as you are willing to put forth the max effort that YOU are capable of without passing out or having a heart attack. Where do you want to be phsycially a year from now? How bad do you want the change? What are you willing to sacrifice (time, desert, video games)? How will life be different when you reach your goals? Ask yourself these questions and use the answers to help motivate yourself

Losing all that weight was the hardest thing I have done in my life but it was also the most intrinsically rewarding thing I have done. I am now going to school for exercise and sport science so I can help others make a difference in their health and fitness, so losing the weight has not only made my life better but it has put me on a new path in life to help others. We are all happy to lend advice around here all you need to do is ask! And the more information you give us the better armed we will be to provide guidance that suits you and your lifestyle. =)
 
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wow, that's a lot of info to digest. THANK YOU! You are telling me everything I want and need to hear, I can't find the correct combination of words to properly express my gratitude.

What I can do is tell you were I am with diet and exercise. Over the last 2 months I did begin a food log using myfitnesspal.com. They have an application for my android phone that makes it very simple to make new entries. That program has really kicked this off for me.
When i began I would simply track any foods I ate through the day with no attempt to change how I was eating. after a few days I started replacing unhealthy with healthy and I've been below my caloric goal everyday as of late. I still have my off days, but they are fewer and fewer each week.
I've also gotten my coworkers, friends and wife using this program. Now there is a small group of us that keep each other in check. combined in the last few weeks our group has lost over 20 pounds.

After proving to myself that I am prepared to continue towards healthy living I joined a gym. I started last monday, and promptly came down with a stomach virus. Wiped me out until this monday where I restarted again, and that's when we had our consult with the trainer that didn't go so well.

From here on out my plan is pretty simple. Eat right and get to the gym everyday after work. I plan to work out on the weight training machines 3x a week, and cardio equipment each day. So far I've come to like the bike, but I feel the elliptical or stepper would give me more bang for my buck so to speak. I intend to work up to them.

Where would I like to be in a year? Well, in better shape. I would love to be close to my goal of 100 pounds lost.
What am I willing to give up? So far it's been all fast food, all sugar drinks, all fried food, deserts are easy because I rarely ate them before.
How bad do I want change? This one gives me an evil smile. I want it (explative)ing bad. I have never been more motivated to do anything in my life. I have always been fat, and i have always been "trying" to lose weight via various programs. But never once have I taken it as seriously as I have for the last 2 months.

Thanks again to everyone for your responses!
 
If it helps, my boyfriend (who has a lot of weight to lose and is relatively unfit) has a program at the gym given to him by one of the trainers there (written down on a sheet of paper and he writes down what he does each time). (We go to a small gym with very limited equipment) He's limited in that he can't do anything high impact. For cardio, he does bike and cross trainer (I think 15 min of one and 20 min of the other, but I can't remember which is which) and he has some weights to do. To be honest I'm not a massive fan of (although can't remember) the weights he's been given. Would it be worthwhile for you to try to set up a weights program for yourself (with the "Workout creation instructions" above)? I'd start with a full body program (as it's the one in the beginner section) and perhaps list what you're going to do so that someone who knows more about it than me can critique what you're trying to do (in particular, point out the things that would be hard to do or hard to do correctly).
 
Awesome 61! It sounds like you have a great plan in place for your weight loss journey. The strength training 3x/week with cardio everyday is a solid plan for the physical activity portion as long as you are doing what you are capable of doing at a safe level and you continue to progressively increase your intensity and effort.

It is also really good that you have been using a food log and by now you should have a pretty good handle on how to navigate it. Stick with it and record EVERYTHING as best as you can; since it is a tool primarily geared towards helping YOU track your eating habits for making appropriate changes if you intentionally leave some things out (people do this more often than you may think) you will be robbing yourself of very useful information for assessing needs for change later on.

I am guessing like many other programs it has charts and graphs to show you some average figures in your consumption of proteins, fats, and carbohydrates and if you haven't already you will really want to start watching these closely. In case you have not received much nutritional guidance I would like to give you some general information on the macronutrients to help you with applying your food log information to making more informed decisions in your eating habits =)

*The following information is pretty much a cursory view of macronutrients. There is so much more to know about each one so if you have any questions or want additional clarification please do not hesitate to ask*

Protein: Protein is important when losing weight for a few notable reasons here. For some individuals as they lose weight they run the risk of losing lean muscle mass along with fat whether it be because they are not getting enough strength training, not getting enough protein to support muscle tissue repair/ building, or simply because the body may turn to protein for energy for various reasons. In addition to this since you have made a commitment to strength training 3x a week you will want to monitor your protein intake specifically for tissue repair and lean muscle mass building. Building more lean muscle mass is important because that tissue is more metabolically active than adipose tissue (fat) meaning the more lean muscle mass you have, especially in contrast to adipose tissue, the more calories you will be burning throughout the day. General guidelines for protein consumption are 12-20% of your total daily caloric intake (often times upwards of 22-25% for strength/power athletes and those on a weight loss program). Exceeding 30-35% may be dangerous.

Carbohydrates: Carbs are often made out to be the villain in our diets, sometimes even more so than fat, and this is unfortunate.
Carbohydrate intake SHOULD be watched closely and intake should be in moderation, but in contrast to what some diets are based on it is dangerous to eliminate carbs from your diet. First and foremost carbohydrates are an energy source for the body, in fact the most important energy source. Fats may have more energy (since calories at their most basic level are considered energy), but carbs help metabolize fats, they are the only macronutrient that provides energy for anaerobic activities (the really high intensity activities such as sprinting), they are the primary source of energy for the nervous system (nerve cell functioning), carbs are a major contributor of energy for aerobic activities along with fat (you will be doing a lot of aerobic activities as you get started with working out at the gym and hopefully you will eventually move onto more anaerobic activities in time), and tying back into the protein section if you do not have a sufficient carbohydrate intake your glucose stores will be TOO low for your body to get the energy if needs for aerobic/anaerobic activities and your body WILL metabolize protein from your muscles for energy which will make your lean muscle mass decrease thus decreasing your performance and decreasing your overall metabolic rate (calorie burning ability). General guidelines for carbohydrate intake is 45-65% of total caloric intake. Too many carbs will lead to additional fat storage.

Fats: There are good fats and there are bad fats, keep this in mind as you are reading nutrition labels. Trans fat are the worst, unfortunately manufacturers are not required to list trans fats if they do not exceed .5g per serving so you need to watch for “partially hydrogenated” in the ingredients list; it is recommended we do not exceed 2g trans fat a day so you can see how quick these can quietly add up if your foods frequently contain .5g or near that of trans fat. Saturated fat as most of us know is bad and like trans fat should be avoided whenever possible, there is nothing really good about trans or saturated fats. On the other hand there are some fats you will want in your diet such as monounsaturated and even better yet polyunsaturated fats, also try to watch for omega-3 fatty acids and get these INTO your diet. The body needs fats for cell construction and tissue building so the good fats (mono/polyunsaturated, omega-3 and to a lesser extent omega-6) should be consumed. General guidelines for fat consumption often fall in the range of 18-25% of total caloric intake; even with good fats though you should not exceed 30%).

Because you plan on doing cardio everyday and strength training 3x a week and your goals are weight loss (often associated with higher protein intake needs) the macronutrient proportion I think would be good for you in terms of total caloric intake is 20-25% protein, 50% carbs (if you can get this down a little lower and allocate the remaining calories to protein or healthy fats this may be in your best interest for now), 20-25% fat (this can be difficult and may end up higher because many healthy foods contain A LOT of “healthy fats”). As you become more physically active and find your cardio workouts lasting much longer and going at higher intensities, which WILL happen if you keep to progressively increasing your efforts, you will needs to adjust these macronutrient %’s to include more carbs (for anaerobic and aerobic energy metabolism) and less fats (as your overall mass decreases you will require less fats for normal cell/tissue maintenance).

Knowledge truly is power in your health and fitness journey so dig deep form whatever nutrition and exercise (including safety) knowledge you can gets your hands on. Seek clarifications where needed, ask lots of questions, and hopefully this community and many others will be able to answer your questions in a timely and thoughtful manner! Keep up the great work on the food log and give it YOUR best in the gym every time; the pounds will shed fast enough and the feeling you get from seeing the new you each step of the way is indescribable!
 
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