Fat burning pills

hey

I been lifting heavy for about 7 months properly. I weigh 242lbs. I want to cut alittle now. Im putting 15 mins - 30 mins on exercise bike and 30 mins weights for 4x a week. Im wanting to try fat burning pills. Im not sure how go they are so can I have some reviews please and which ones are best to get.

Thanks
 
I can't tell you from personal experience, because I have not used them. However, I have learned from many reputable members here that they are mostly useless. Usually just filled with caffeine and other crap. Your best bet is to have your diet nailed down 100%, lift heavy, run, row, bike, do some HIIT if youre able, and the fat will come off.
 
most of them are useless. There are a few that have some effect but they are few and far between.
The only ones that REALLY do show very real results are basically a bunch of legal stimulants wrapped up in 1 package. an ECA stack with a pretty name like hot-rox or other names.

and the REAL REAL fat loss pills, like the ones doctors prescribe, are usually some form of amphetamine
 
I agree. I think I have tried most of the "top sellers" out there, and they
just do not work! I bought into the hype, but they are just a waste of money. Exercise & diet are the key. Save your money for a good quality protein instead!! :)
 
You are not ready for them.

There are some that work, and they work best at the END of your cutting cycle...to shed the last 10-15 stubborn pounds.

30 mins per cardio session. 15 minutes is not enough.
Eat right...most of getting lean is done in the kitchen, not on the exercise bike.
 
You are not ready for them.

There are some that work, and they work best at the END of your cutting cycle...to shed the last 10-15 stubborn pounds.

30 mins per cardio session. 15 minutes is not enough.
Eat right...most of getting lean is done in the kitchen, not on the exercise bike.

I have cut alot of chocolate out of my diet and having yoghurts etc with my dinner instead of crisps and chocolate with dinner. So 30 mins is ok? 4x a week this will be.I wana muscle up so I dont want to loose alot of weight really just look beefier
 
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Umm, do you want to 'muscle up' or 'get lean'?

They are two completely opposite goals. the former requires a calorie surplus...the latter needs a caloric deficit.

i.e. you cannot have your cake and eat it two. pick one, stick to it til you meet a goal, then change gears, either to get lean, bulk up, or maintain where you are at.
 
I want to bulk up. Will I loose a small amount of fat by lifting heavy and doing 30 mins of cardio 3 times a week and 3 hours a week weights?

Dont surpose anyone could reccomend a good creatine for me to take? I think I will try creatine I think but only one mix a day to start. I have to watch out due to diabeties.
 
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The problem with your goal is that is you are trying to do what malkore said is impossible...bulking up and losing fat are 2 completely different goals. Either you want to get bigger, in which case you eat in a surplus, or you want to lean down, and you eat in a deficit.
 
The problem with your goal is that is you are trying to do what malkore said is impossible...bulking up and losing fat are 2 completely different goals. Either you want to get bigger, in which case you eat in a surplus, or you want to lean down, and you eat in a deficit.


So I will lift heavy but with 30 mins of cardio before I lift weights for 45-60 mins then. I will carry on with this for a few more months see how it goes.
 
Lift before cardio, put your energy towards that first.

And again, I'm still not sure whether you are planning on eating over maintenence, or under. That is what will decide whether you gain (mostly muscle if you lift heavy) or if you lose (mostly fat if you lift heavy).
 
I use mostly LDS products. Their weight loss pills (which for some reason i just CANT remember the name right now) is good.
 
i.e. you cannot have your cake and eat it two.

I beg to differ, tell that to Hugh Heffner :)

Forget the pills, don't believe the marketing hype...what little they could help is just marginal and your rolling the dice with potential consequences. There are no short-cuts when it comes to real & long-last results, it's just a matter of hard work, proper eating and doing all the right things over a long & consistent period.
 
Ok. Thank you for replys. I want to loose 40lbs but I want to bulk after this so im lifting at the moment but 10-12 reps and not sure what amount of sets I should be doing though. I do 25/30 mins of cardio before I lift then I lift for 30-45 mins.
 
I do 25/30 mins of cardio before I lift then I lift for 30-45 mins.

You got it backwards.....

Do your weights first, then do your cardio afterwards. Why? Because you're full of energy & blood-sugar when you first hit the gym and that's what you should use for doing weights.....cause weight lifting is generally anaerobic, so burn-up your energy on the weights and then as your body is starting to burn fat to replenish the energy, jump on cardio.

Listen, I know it's generally regarded as "hard or difficult"...but losing fat AND gaining muscle can be done at the same time. I've done it, I do it. I think it's a mistake to presume you can only do one.

I do weights for 1.5 hours and then follow it later in the day with some cardio...this I do on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday.

I do huge cardio on Weds & Fri and sometimes on weekends as well. Thus far I've lost quite a bit of fat AND gained muscle at the same time.
 
Ok matey. I presume thats you in your picture. Looking very big. lol. I got told about the weights/cardio thing that if you do weights then cardio you can burn a small bit of muscle off :S
 
They should take each over-the-counter so called fat burning pills, make them completely illegal and throw all of them in the friggen trash so it doesn't continually feed bull-sh#t and stink up the mind of the general public.

Over the counter fat loss products, are designed to manipulate the consumers personal senses; it goes to the very core in what the potential buyer is trying to manipulate. And, this sells products.

And, in the marketing sense, this works and is a powerful manipulative force to one that doesn’t look at these products through: Educated Eyes.

However, the general public has a disease. And, this disease is not getting "properly" educated and not seeing this bull-**** and allowing it to stink up their mind.

Some don't get physicals when they should. Some don't combine these physicals with a more thorough examination to eliminate any biological or hormonal complications.

Additionally, some don't take the time to thoroughly educate their selves in what they plan to participate in, and in the process don't self examine their selves through the view of education of their own body.

Throughout the day, the body juggles a "balancing act" according to its design. If this is "disrupted" or "abnormal" in some biological or hormonal fashion, then one "should" seek medical assistance if the body is proving to be inefficient in its traditional processes. Its simply a medical necessity.

Otherwise, all one needs is: Proper food, proper activity, water, and a properly connected and educated mind and body.

One should understand the "concepts" of energy balance; think of your body as a vehicle that operates 24 hours a day and 7 days per week. It never stops burning gas :)))--that is calories. ;)

You would never expect your car to get you from one place to the next without systematic refueling, just as you know there's no point in putting more gas in the tank than it's designed to hold. The hand/mind coordination is in control on whether one over fills the fuel tank, as the vehicle has no mind what so-ever.

The body is no different: Get over it.

If you over fill your vehicle's gas tank, it spills over on the concrete and gets on your exterior paint (fat storage/some muscle repair and rebuild, and other energy expensive operations).

Once its full (glucose storage/excess calories), how this fuel is processed (and thus the mileage you obtain) will depend on the health and efficiency of the engine the vehicle is "powered" from and the other mechanical (biological) parts that are involved in the process of movement and motion.

The younger it is (or closer to new) the more it seems to "tolerate"; the more it advanced in age (and mileage it obtains) it tends to lose some power and efficiency (but it can be effectively dealt with).

Though out this process, the most important issue is: "Educated Maintenance".

"Proper" maintenance of your personal vehicle.

Like vehicles, some bodies can tolerate lack of maintenance or improper maintenance for long periods, while with others it cannot be tolerated. And, if you depend on this vehicle to get you to school/work, lack of maintenance or improper maintenance is going to catch up with you one day. And, if you "depend on your body's health to carry you through life" improper maintenance or lack of maintenance will likewise catch up with you.

The difference?

You can always get another vehicle. You only have one body to carry you through life; it is a one shot arrangement.

You muck it up, you just might not be able to fix it.

A lifestyle change, physical activity, correct and proper education, and calorie/macro nutrient manipulation are your thermogenic (or fat burner if you will).

The human body is designed to eat and perform physical activity; I think this is a rather safe and obvious fact.

How one manipulates these base facts, how one manipulates "choice" within their personal operating environment (life style), and react to the corresponding body reaction and adaption, will determine the quality of the results.


Let me give you "one example among many":

What is it about "strength training" that can create an "after burn or energy flux", if you will?

The most important factor is muscle repair/rebuild. A quality hour of throwing the iron around causes your muscle tissues to break down at a higher rate than normal. I say a higher rate than normal because the body is always repairing and rebuilding, however, progressive weight training taxes the system above the "norm".

The act of "progressive strength training" forces the body to perform biological processes "above homeostasis", and this can be a very biologically expensive process.

You have a "biological and energy expensive" process going on within the muscles (and some organ function) themselves just through muscle repair/rebuild. Protein/amino acid turn over can be energy expensive, and this occurs long after you have finished your workout. This muscle repair process effects the rest of the bodily system because other parts of the body have to be involved to complete the process.

If one does NOT workout (say at all), this process above norm isn't taking place, which means less energy (calories) and nutrition are being expended and/or used, logically.

In this EXAMPLE you have two stimulants impacting thermodynamics : 1. The hour of strength training, and 2. The biologically expensive muscle rebuilding/repair.

When one first begins a "program" this process (1 and 2) can be quite expensive to the body. Extraordinary gains/losses can happen---until the body "adapts and becomes more efficient"--to your external activities and feeding habits. Then it becomes less expensive as compared to the past, and its just a matter of time before the fitness person sees this materialize in one form or another on the outside.

But the logistics and items used to AGAIN gain a thermogenic advantage are the same. Since a lifestyle change has already occurred, you "may not" need to change specific items here; however, what may need changed are approaches on:

1. Amount of calories (how one is manipulating them, and using "types of food to your advantage"), 2. Possible manipulation of Macro-nutrients, 3. A decrease/increase in intensity/progression and type and timing of fitness activities (weight training and/or cardio), 4. And, making some hard and "sometimes difficult" choices supported by being educated in items 1 through 3, dependent on the fitness goal position (like trying to remove the last bit of lower ab fat, that I term the body's preventive starvation fat, and is one reason it "can be difficult to remove".

The Thermogenic is being educated in items 1 through 4.

It is not in a pill. You walk in your Fat Burner Pill: Your Body.

Do not be foolish and look to an over-the-counter fat loss pill.

Look to yourself…….and education for the absolute win.

This is all you will ever need.

Some seem to think obsession is a disease for the bad. I disagree. Look around to the successful Olympians, Body Builders, professional cyclists, and successful fitness individuals. They are all obsessed with dedication to be successful in their chosen path. The weak choose it as a disease and simply can't handle it.

Get.......er' done. :)



Now, start ROCKEN-OUT…….with education.

Best wishes


Chillen
 
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I just flushed my Hydroxycut down the toilet. Oh, New member! :sport:

Good for you! :)

Now, spend the money you will be saving on some good healthy food or a "good" book that is close kin to your fitness goals.


Best regards,

Chillen
 
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