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Lately I've been reading a lot about "detoxifying" the body, and how it helps weight loss. Is there any truth this this?

One product is called Detoxatrim. I just wondered if anyone has tried it or something else with similar claims. Any success, or is it just another weight loss gimic?
 
It's a marketing gimmick, another way of extracting money out of people who are looking for quick and easy unswer to weight loss. Unfortunately is it sounds too good to be true it is not true. The only way is a clean eating programme combined with a challenging fitness regime.
 
Well it contains natural occuring intestinal flora, which I probably lack due to chronic antibiotic use. I just wondered if I would gain benefits from THAT. As soon as I started taking antibiotics, my abdomen became very bloated and irritable. My stomach looks perfectly flat when it's empty, but after just a few bites of food, it swells up like I am 4 mos pregnant. I thought maybe my intestines were inflamed from lacking their natural flora, and maybe taking something like this to re-flourish the "good" bacteria would help things along... and since it also contains things to curb your appetite and get rid of excess water, it might actually work for me? Not expecting to lose large amounts of weight, I don't need to. But for the purpose I want it for, I'm wondering if it may just do the trick.
 
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To correct bacteria balance in your stomach it's better to take acidophilus. It probably contains more live bacteria than some detox tablet.

As for your bloted stomach you may have some food intolerances and no amount of detox remedies will help that.

To get rid of excess water drink more than two liters of WATER per day. I remember seeing somwhere that you don't drink water. Apologies if I'm wrong.

I read your other posts and they contained a lot of valuable advice which should help you achieve your goals. Why do you keep ignoring it?

But if you want to spend your money on smth that probably won't have any noticeable effect then go ahead 'detox'.
 
It sounds an awful lot like a duiretic and a diet pill disguised as a "detox" pill so that people won't be turned off by the fact that it's a diet pill.
 
Who said I'm ignoring the advice? This is for a completely different problem... bloating, that started when I took a long-term antibiotic. Figured it was related to lack of normal intestinal flora... saw a few different articles on detox, and I asked a question. I'm not even trying to lose weight anymore, apparently I already lost too much. I'm just trying to maintain my weight and lose inches. I'm doing Pilates daily, adding some weights, still watching my calories, doing everything I've been taught here, so please do not say I'm ignoring advice when I ask a question.

And yes, that was me who does not drink much water. I have tried, I am not thirsty. I can go days without drinking much of anything. It doesn't signify that I'm not dehydrated yet. Someone made the comment that it was good that I wasn't thirsty because when you're thirsty you're already dehydrated. Yes and no. I can be fully hydrated, eat something salty or do some cardio, and develop thirst. I can also not have anything to drink for days, be severely dehydrated, and have no thirst. The human body isn't so cut and dry. I continue to try to drink more water. But after a swallow or two, I am satiated. I try to drink more despite no thirst, and I become nauseated. When the gagging and dry heaves begin, I stop. I can drink other fluids more easily, but still not as plentiful as I should. When I can develop the ability to forcefeed myself against my body's wishes, I will drink more. I had an endoscopy scheduled to see what the problem is, (along with abdominal pain, bloating, distention, and nausea) but had to cancel. I will try to reschedule as time allows.

I think I MIGHT try Detoxatrim and see if it helps. What have I got to lose... (other than $22, which I think I can spare) it certainly can't hurt anything. Just wondered if anyone here has tried such a drug, and what sort of side effects, if any, they experienced. I've tried the acidophilus supplements, yogurt with live cultures, and it has not helped. This has been an ongoing problem since July 2005. I'm not aiming to lose more weight, but it would be nice to see a flatter, non-distended tummy. Who wouldn't want that, ya know.

Also, it IS advertised as a weight loss drug. I don't have confidence in any weight loss drugs on the market, or expect them to actually aid in losing pounds or inches.. I'm sure some where in the fine print it will say, "along with a proper diet and exercise" since THAT is what helps you lose weight... That's not really my question here. The ingredients seem like just the perfect cocktail for what I suspect my problem is, though I never claim to be right 100% of the time. Perhaps this is all related to an ulcer (from 10 yrs of Motrin use), and hopefully I can get that taken care of. But in the meantime, I'll give it a whirl. Maybe. Still researching.

Thanks again for your replies.
 
Not sure if you have a problem you are trying to solve? but if you are having trouble with your intestinal flora... I am guessing that you could be suffering from diareha or constipation... the cool thing is that it doesn't really matter because there is a good way to deal with both at the same time...

insoluble and soluble fiber...

insoluble forms bulk... soluble makes it slimy...

constipated... take 2-4 fiber con tabs a day and eat an apple every day..

diareha just take the fiber... it will add some mass and make things a bit more solid...

if you don't have constipation issues you may want to skip the fibercon as that may make you feel bloated as well... I'll tell you though... once I got regular my bloating went away...

another thing that appears to be helpfull is fennel tea?

it could be you have developed a food intolerance... so it might be a good idea to log the food you eat...
 
Logging your food intake and keeping a record of symptoms with it sounds like a really good idea. Who knows, you might find a connection somewhere.

Also, I would be concerned about taking something with a diuretic effect when you already don't drink enough. It's highly likely that you are already partially dehydrated, and this might make it worse.

You have quite a list of things going on with you, some of which are pretty uncommon. What does your doctor think might be the underlying cause of all the problems? It seems like your doc should look into the overall problem, instead of just treating things as they come along, you know?
 
I have to agree with deschain. It seems like you've listed like 10 different things that are wrong with you throughout different threads. Perhaps there's a connection between some of them.
 
LOL, yeah I know, I sound like a basket case. After I lost 20 pounds and started with night sweats and swollen glands, they worked me up for Lupus, but couldn't find anything. Referred me to a hematologist to check for leukemia, but I've had these problems since I was a teenager, if it was anything like that, I would have died a long time ago. They suspect I have something autoimmune, but have no name for it. My thyroid, high lipids, polycystic ovaries and adrenal dysfunction are all related endocrine disorders that overlap each other. It started with PCOS, and the rest came as a result of those hormonal imbalances. The neurocardiogenic disorder is the result of Mono. At least that's their only convincing theory. And I barely have any problems with that anymore, I think I am outgrowing it. Just occasional dizziness if I stand for too long. My liver fails when I am very ill, again, that is hereditary (Gilbert's), and fairly benign. I have anemia and other blood disorders, but those are genetic defects, just mutations of my genes, and have nothing to do with the rest. No ill effects, I just take aspirin to prevent clotting. My sister is in perfect health, I just got the leftover crap! LOL! You would never guess by looking at me that I have so many problems. I can do everything everyone else can do, just not as fast.

As for the bloating.. it's not really related to any diarrhea or constipation. It's like that after taking a few bites of food. I have been taking Motrin for several years due to migraines and neck/back pain, and I'm pretty sure it ate away at my stomach lining. It's known to do that. Combine that with chronic antibiotic use -- Doxycycline will kill anything in your gut, it's wide spectrum, meaning it kills good and bad bacteria. I assume my stomach and intestines are irritated. I thought maybe I could replenish the flora and see some improvement in the distention. When I say I'm "bloated" -- I mean my abdomen is swollen, either from water or inflammation. I took an interest in Detoxatrim because it claims that the build-up of these toxins can cause adrenal dysfunction and a sluggish thyroid.. and what d'ya know, I have that too. So I wondered if they had any credibility to their claims. Detox seems to be the latest "fad" in dieting. That and colon cleansing, which I'm still not convinced of that either.

Anyway, it is probably wishful thinking. I will just have to have the endoscopy done to truly know what's going on in there. I just hate the thought of swallowing a camera. And I'm so busy, I don't really have time to take off a day to be drugged up.

On another note, I happen to be sick again today, this time with migraine and fever, and bruises all over my body, which means my liver is acting up again (low platelets). Could be nothing.. whatever "autoimmune" thing I have might just be flaring up because I've had no rest. Too much Pilates and too much working on my feet for 12 hours! I called off work tonight, so I am going to be getting to bed, and hopefully I feel better once I've slept. I'll be going to the ER later if my fever does not subside. So if I'm not around for a while, you know why.

Sorry for sounding grouchy, I'm crabby when I'm sick and tired!!
 
If you want a detox, I recommend the following from North American Herb & Spice Company-
Total Purge and Oregabiotic
They also have a nice probiotic called Health Bac or Healthy Trinity makes a very awesome probiotic.

Not all acidopholus is the same and most of the products out there won't survive to do its job.

Also, oregano oil (wild) acts as a antifungal, antiviral, antimicrobial. Go to and look over the website. They have research to support how oregan oil has out performed pharmaceuticals time and time again.

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Don't detox for the specific purpose of losing weight. Detox to get rid of the all hte crap that's in the body from our diets. A lot of people roll their eyes at the thought of yeast, fungus, and bad parasites in the body but there's a lot of truth to it. The cleanse I recommended above is a good one because it won't leave you feeling like crap like a lot of them do. And the probiotics I mentioned have been clinically shown to actually survive through a sweep and into a stool sample.
 
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Thank you, evolution, that was the answer I was looking for. Was wondering if there was any truth to detox. Yeah I definitely won't be taking it for weight loss, just seeing if I receive any benefit from removing "toxins." I've been trying to research to see if there really are toxins in our bodies, or just a gimmick to make money. I am a very skeptical consumer, and believe very little of what I read! But if what they say has any truth to it, that would be awesome.

I just woke up not that long ago, still sick. My fever has gone down some, but I had night sweats, so I know it broke some time during the night. I'm heading back to bed. Just couldn't fall back to sleep. Thanks again for your replies.
 
NeuroRN76 said:
Who said I'm ignoring the advice? This is for a completely different problem... bloating, that started when I took a long-term antibiotic. Figured it was related to lack of normal intestinal flora... saw a few different articles on detox, and I asked a question. I'm not even trying to lose weight anymore, apparently I already lost too much. I'm just trying to maintain my weight and lose inches. I'm doing Pilates daily, adding some weights, still watching my calories, doing everything I've been taught here, so please do not say I'm ignoring advice when I ask a question.

And yes, that was me who does not drink much water. I have tried, I am not thirsty. I can go days without drinking much of anything. It doesn't signify that I'm not dehydrated yet. Someone made the comment that it was good that I wasn't thirsty because when you're thirsty you're already dehydrated. Yes and no. I can be fully hydrated, eat something salty or do some cardio, and develop thirst. I can also not have anything to drink for days, be severely dehydrated, and have no thirst. The human body isn't so cut and dry. I continue to try to drink more water. But after a swallow or two, I am satiated. I try to drink more despite no thirst, and I become nauseated. When the gagging and dry heaves begin, I stop. I can drink other fluids more easily, but still not as plentiful as I should. When I can develop the ability to forcefeed myself against my body's wishes, I will drink more. I had an endoscopy scheduled to see what the problem is, (along with abdominal pain, bloating, distention, and nausea) but had to cancel. I will try to reschedule as time allows.

I think I MIGHT try Detoxatrim and see if it helps. What have I got to lose... (other than $22, which I think I can spare) it certainly can't hurt anything. Just wondered if anyone here has tried such a drug, and what sort of side effects, if any, they experienced. I've tried the acidophilus supplements, yogurt with live cultures, and it has not helped. This has been an ongoing problem since July 2005. I'm not aiming to lose more weight, but it would be nice to see a flatter, non-distended tummy. Who wouldn't want that, ya know.

Also, it IS advertised as a weight loss drug. I don't have confidence in any weight loss drugs on the market, or expect them to actually aid in losing pounds or inches.. I'm sure some where in the fine print it will say, "along with a proper diet and exercise" since THAT is what helps you lose weight... That's not really my question here. The ingredients seem like just the perfect cocktail for what I suspect my problem is, though I never claim to be right 100% of the time. Perhaps this is all related to an ulcer (from 10 yrs of Motrin use), and hopefully I can get that taken care of. But in the meantime, I'll give it a whirl. Maybe. Still researching.

Thanks again for your replies.
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offers a great detoxing program. it doesn't taste bad at all and it's not harsh on your stomach. it definitely helped w/my stomach bloating and you do lose some weight from it, not a whole lot, but noticably some in the belly area for sure. i only did it for about a month and that seemed to be enough for me. now i just take the probiotics daily. i'm gonna try to do it every year, i think i'm due for it this year. good luck in your search! ;)
 
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Doesn't yogurt contain acidophilus? A serving of yogurt daily keeps the intestinal bacteria healthy, as well as providing a good source of protien and calcium? Don't they actually recommend eating a lot of yogurt when you travel to Mexico to reduce the effects of Montezuma's Revenge?
 
Yeah I said previously that I tried acidophilus and yogurt with live cultures, but the distention persisted. Which is why the detox thing caught my eye.
 
NeuroRN76 said:
Thank you!

Which probiotics do you take daily?
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that's the link to the probiotics, flora protect probiotics. i take 2 before bed every night on an empty stomach. and if u have any questions, just email them, they have the best customer service. they responded every time. this was the first detox i ever did and am actually happy with it. they say u could do it for three months, but after like a month and a half i got tired of drinking the tea and shakes everyday. i still have a box i haven't even used cause i bought it to last a couple months but i just couldn't do it for that long. the month was plenty enough for me. but i have to say too that my belly did feel a lot less bloated and much flatter after. so that was a plus.

btw..they have i just noticed something new "toxinout", that's not the one i tried. i did the colonix program which is a shake, tea, and the flora protect probiotics.

and i'm not advertising this product, but i think with the things you are complaining about that it truly would help your bloating and then just maintain w/the flora protect probiotic. it's been a year for me since i tried it and they say you can do it once a year, i am feeling somewhat bloated too lately so i may start it back up for a month. i think it would help u though, but seriously take advantage of their great customer service, they do answer quickly and they give u a lot of information especially if you are currently on medication and have health issues.

good luck with everything and since i know about it, i can try to help u too if u have any questions.
 
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dswithers said:
Doesn't yogurt contain acidophilus? A serving of yogurt daily keeps the intestinal bacteria healthy, as well as providing a good source of protien and calcium? Don't they actually recommend eating a lot of yogurt when you travel to Mexico to reduce the effects of Montezuma's Revenge?
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The yogurt sold in the grocery store has no live active cultures in it. Get it organic and non-pastuerized.
 
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