Darth Pooh, Sith Lord of the Honey Pot

I generally don't do any extended sets or intensive training such as drop sets when I'm cutting. They're generally used as tools to stress or trigger hypertrophy.

When cutting, you should be doing just enough with weights to send the signaling for maintenance... doing more can be counterproductive.
 
Steve said:
I generally don't do any extended sets or intensive training such as drop sets when I'm cutting. They're generally used as tools to stress or trigger hypertrophy.

When cutting, you should be doing just enough with weights to send the signaling for maintenance... doing more can be counterproductive.
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Interesting. I think I will back off. I believe I thought that if I wasn't experiencing DOMS than it wasn't worth shit. My digital handheld BF tool said I was 11.5% today. I used it for giggles... just because I hadn't in about a month. Down from about 13.2%, which is all I really need to know. I know I am sub 15 due to seeing the veins in my biceps. Finishing off this month with an EC stack and then going into a bulk until March.... Making it smart this time, calories slow and steady and probably won't go above 2600 calories.
 
Quick update, sorry I've been away. Busy week at work and all.

Weigh-in on Sunday resulted in 3 more lbs for two weeks (which is amazing considering how much I binged on the previous weekend, close to ~4000 calories). Also had lost 1.5 inches in the stomach.

I recently bought a few things this week at the local nutrition store...

BCAA's, Glutamine w/ MSM, Beta Alanine, and Uni-Liver Pills. Mainly for during intra-workout drinks, Uni-Liver is for the lack of Amino's I may be getting while cutting.

Also invested in some new wraps and lifting hooks. They are amazing! I added about 60 lbs to my deadlift today with no issues and total ease. I just don't have to worry about grip strength as much as before. I am in love with them... :)

Hoping to be off the cut in the next few weeks (I was aiming for 10%, hovering about 11.5-12% right now). I am the kind of guy who gains on a 2600-2700 calorie bulk (and not the good gain either...), so I am trying to minimize current BF so the damage isn't overwhelming later (from a mental standpoint).
 
Girlfriend

It is amazing how our girlfriends and/or boyfriends can get us to be so motivated to get into shape sometimes. Then marriage sets in and we can easily fall back into our old, comfortable patterns.

:)
 
2Skinny said:
Just a quick hello to say I freaking LOVE your diary name. Too bloody funny.

I read your first diary entry and your last page and see you married that girlfriend of yours? Congratulations. :) :) :)

Looking forward to reading more later.
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Oh, I am sorry I missed your post there... thanks regarding the whole married bit. :) She is a gem... totally supportive and even after the whole marriage thing, gets why I am trying to still lose some weight. She also knows it's now my hobby (fitness in general) and that I enjoy going to the gym.
 
burnsrunner said:
It is amazing how our girlfriends and/or boyfriends can get us to be so motivated to get into shape sometimes. Then marriage sets in and we can easily fall back into our old, comfortable patterns.

:)
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Hasn't happened here, and I don't think she'd ever try to change me or that... I started dating her when I was almost 300 lbs, so I didn't do it for "her sake" or get to "get" a girl.

I did it for self-esteem and health purposes.
 
Shalom all!

I've been MIA yet again :( However, a brief check in won't hurt.

So, I have been off any thermogenic since last week (and will be for a while, which includes DCP and EC stacks). I am slowing bringing my calories to maintenance (currently eating around 2300-2500 a day) before I begin my bulk which will take me to 2700 calories or so (I think).

I need to really start training more intensely so I can see some decent size gains, I'd like my arms to gain the most size this time around (15 inch biceps are just silly).

I plan to bulk until sometime into the middle of March, maybe the beginning April. I might reuse the old Upper Lower Push Pull Split from last summer, altho I did gain some nasty fat but that is due to probably eating well over on some days, plus my wedding and honeymoon (gained nearly 20 lbs of fat + muscle, 4% bf gained really).

Ultimately, I am thinking this is a two year schedule to get back to 190-200 lbs with 11-12% bf. I am hoping that will help with my loose skin situation but I am not counting on it... I'm willing to wait it out.
 
Best to you man. Mind you, when I bulk I add a healthy chunk of fat to my frame. I'm willing to accept it in exchange, knowing well that it will come off during the next cut.

I don't turn into uber-fatness but I certainly lose a majority of my definition.
 
Steve said:
Best to you man. Mind you, when I bulk I add a healthy chunk of fat to my frame. I'm willing to accept it in exchange, knowing well that it will come off during the next cut.

I don't turn into uber-fatness but I certainly lose a majority of my definition.
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Someone posted something in a different forum I visit about damaging metabolism from being in a deficit for too long... maybe you can help explain this than.

Darth Pooh ~ elsewhere said:
I am coming out of a cut (via caloric deficit and cardio/weight training), 5'11", 177 lbs (used to weigh almost 300 lbs at one point), and I took in 2200-2300 calories a day with interval training for 40 minutes a day for five days a week and full body workout (muscle maintenance to prevent catabolism 3 days a week). Have I harmed my self in this process? I am coming off of cutting from September til this past week (after my last bulk I went to 196 from 173, cut back down to 177 again), I am starting to eat maintenance calories this week (well bumping them up by 15% (to 2400 calories) and then another 15% next week before I start my bulk. Could my metabolism be damaged?
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I am not sure if my fat gains were from the 2700 calories a day or from the events in my life (like all I can eat on my honeymoon, wedding, pre wedding festivities, etc.) I am more inclined to think that I could actually eat around 3000 calories with a bit of cardio during the week (maybe 2 or 3 30-minute sessions of low intensity stuff on the elliptical/treadmill).
 
Metabolism is *always* 'damanged' after a diet no matter what you do. Damaged being slowed. Losing weight = slow down. Losing fat = metabolic disturbances = slow down.

Not sure what you're asking me to explain?
 
Steve said:
Metabolism is *always* 'damanged' after a diet no matter what you do. Damaged being slowed. Losing weight = slow down. Losing fat = metabolic disturbances = slow down.

Not sure what you're asking me to explain?
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Is it beyond repair?

Do things like say, a CKD work better than caloric deficit for "metabolism damage"? I know a CKD can be better for maximizing fat loss while maintaining the most lean muscle, but does it help with hormone levels more than a reduced caloric intake? If anything, I would think it would be worse for hormone levels... with how it affects cortisol and insulin response.
 
Darth Pooh said:
Is it beyond repair?
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Nope.

Do things like say, a CKD work better than caloric deficit for "metabolism damage"? I know a CKD can be better for maximizing fat loss while maintaining the most lean muscle, but does it help with hormone levels more than a reduced caloric intake? If anything, I would think it would be worse for hormone levels... with how it affects cortisol and insulin response.
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It can be beneficial actually. This is exactly why I institute refeeds when I'm dieting. I'm lean, relatively, trying to get leaner which goes against every fiber of my evolved body. Feeding it makes it happy. Leptin is a powerful son of a bitch.
 
Steve said:
Nope.



It can be beneficial actually. This is exactly why I institute refeeds when I'm dieting. I'm lean, relatively, trying to get leaner which goes against every fiber of my evolved body. Feeding it makes it happy. Leptin is a powerful son of a bitch.
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Hmmmm, maybe on my next cut, I will have to research CKD more in depth. How often do people tend to stay on it? It seems fairly precise and I would miss my carbs severely.
 
There's not set time period for people to be on it... it's very much an individual thing.

The diet that left me with the best muscle maintenance vs. fat loss was something like Lyle's UD2. It corresponded best with my schedule to given the fact that you were refeeding starting Friday all the way through Saturday.
 
Steve said:
There's not set time period for people to be on it... it's very much an individual thing.

The diet that left me with the best muscle maintenance vs. fat loss was something like Lyle's UD2. It corresponded best with my schedule to given the fact that you were refeeding starting Friday all the way through Saturday.
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Yep, that's the one I was looking at.

Do you get miserable when you don't eat carbs during the week?
 
Nope. And I love carbs. When I first started I'd have cravings here and there and the training is beyond brutal that Lyle outlines in that book... it has to be in order to fully deplete glycogen. But I actually enjoyed the challenge that diet is.

Mind you, I've toyed around with PSMF which is beyond brutal so for me, relativity played a role.
 
Steve said:
Nope. And I love carbs. When I first started I'd have cravings here and there and the training is beyond brutal that Lyle outlines in that book... it has to be in order to fully deplete glycogen. But I actually enjoyed the challenge that diet is.

Mind you, I've toyed around with PSMF which is beyond brutal so for me, relativity played a role.
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I've read on how brutal it is... I am looking forward to the challenge. I am so throughly addicted now... I want to push myself further.

So, I cook at home, do you think I can still cook my meals for me and my wife during the week and not have an issue? I mean, I usually make a carb, veggies (green stuff always) and lean protein (turkey, chicken, whatever). If I make what I make now, but cut out the carbs according to UD2, I should be fine?

I just know that adjustment will be a bitch, but if it lets me eat MORE of protein/fats than what I do now, I think I'll be fine... I love almonds ;)
 
Darth Pooh said:
I've read on how brutal it is... I am looking forward to the challenge. I am so throughly addicted now... I want to push myself further.
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I'm glad to hear this. When you're not genetically blessed (which I'm not) you really have to take it to the extreme if you want to reach a particular level in terms of physique.

It's easy to be average.

So, I cook at home, do you think I can still cook my meals for me and my wife during the week and not have an issue? I mean, I usually make a carb, veggies (green stuff always) and lean protein (turkey, chicken, whatever). If I make what I make now, but cut out the carbs according to UD2, I should be fine?
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Certainly. You are allowed more carbs on UD2 even on the low days than you are on PSMF. But still, with your wife munching down the rice or potatoes... it will be hard to resist. At least it would be for me. But you can't expect her to follow the diet and it's healthy for the marriage to eat together, lol. So suck it up buttercup!

I just know that adjustment will be a bitch, but if it lets me eat MORE of protein/fats than what I do now, I think I'll be fine... I love almonds ;)
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Have you read the book?
 
Yeah man, I have the bug. I was in the gym on Thanksgiving and black friday ;)

Usually I can resist almost anything she is eating. That won't be a problem. Since losing weight, willpower I have unless I know I am going to have a binge meal/day. Then all bets are of.

I haven't read it yet. She is getting them for me for xmas (with stubborn fat loss), am I confusing what this diet really is?
 
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