Darth Pooh, Sith Lord of the Honey Pot

Nope, not yet. Its not to say I "can't" go on a beach, because hell I did that at 283 lbs! So, I just don't think it's beach worthy for a guy... it's different for me really. I see other people and don't care, but for my own image... weird to see my rib cage and a flabby stomach area.

Yep, philly... does that crack you up or excite you? ;) Remember in Steve's thread I said you live in West Dumpford? duh?

I actually don't remember that...but I beleive you said it...West Deptford is very nice actually :)

I am def not beach worthy at this point but at least this year I am interested in buying a bathing suit instead of dreading it in years past...
 
I read your first post and I was like: humm... I feel like I have seen his ticker somewhere and he had lost like 100 pounds... I must be going cookoo.. confusing members and stuff... then I read the date!!!

Do you think you will keep changing your goal weight? i mean do you know that you WILL eventually DISAPPEAR!!!!!??? I am just joking! Good for you, for trying to find your perfect weight! And I am gonna look into Steve's basic lifts, I would def. like me some definition!
Camy
 
I actually don't remember that...but I beleive you said it...West Deptford is very nice actually :)

I am def not beach worthy at this point but at least this year I am interested in buying a bathing suit instead of dreading it in years past...

Again, obvious leaps and bounds from who you used to be... West Deptford is Philly without the Liberty Bell ;)

Just go to Jersey Shore, PA and pretend you're at the beach :)

Hahahaha, I hate going into that ocean. Unless I can see the bottom I don't go past calf length. I get the hibey jibies from jelly fish too.

I read your first post and I was like: humm... I feel like I have seen his ticker somewhere and he had lost like 100 pounds... I must be going cookoo.. confusing members and stuff... then I read the date!!!

Do you think you will keep changing your goal weight? i mean do you know that you WILL eventually DISAPPEAR!!!!!??? I am just joking! Good for you, for trying to find your perfect weight! And I am gonna look into Steve's basic lifts, I would def. like me some definition!
Camy

I don't have a goal weight anymore... a number is something that makes no sense in terms of body types and structure. My goal is to now look good for me in the mirror. I'd prefer to see my abs and less of the flab around the midsection. That involves clean eating and a lot of core exercises (not for "spot reducing" but in order to change the shape of those muscles in that region). Sometimes I don't always eat clean and have a lean cuisine meal but I attempt to check those ingredients of the ones I do eat and find that they aren't "awful" in terms of chemicals I don't know.

DEF check out Steve's thread... it did wonders for my body.
 
Again, obvious leaps and bounds from who you used to be... West Deptford is Philly without the Liberty Bell

Who needs the Liberty Bell anyway??? Damn thing is broken, anyhow ;)

You are going to laugh, I was trying on bathing suits last weekend (site of the shopping spree I did) and actually liked what I saw :)

Proud of me?
 
very cool :)

always a nice thing to like what you see when you're trying on bathing suits - especially in the cold harsh light of a department store dressing room... you're gonna be smokin' in real light then :D
 
very cool :)

always a nice thing to like what you see when you're trying on bathing suits - especially in the cold harsh light of a department store dressing room... you're gonna be smokin' in real light then :D

Thanks Mal - I am so used to disliking what I see in the mirror that I almost feel guilty when I like it...it is such an unfamiliar response that I feel guilty or something...

Go ahead Keith, let me have it...
 
screw guilt -sashay your behind to the beach now then :D

I am a 'good' (using that term as loosely as possible) Catholic girl, guilt seems to be a way of life for me...

Today, I will say, I like what I see...of course you can't see anything b/c I am wearing a jacket that is 2 sizes two big but underneath...I like that.
 
Yes, you are quite right Mal... you are so good to me :)

So, I thought I might update then... let's see, I've dropped pretty much 40 lbs since December. Sitting at 173 now... getting a lot of comments from my family members that are extremely negative. So, maybe I could ask around the forum for some advice...

I have a bit of a loose skin / fat pouch still (I call him Chuck Norris, because everytime I take off my shirt, it kicks me in the face with a deadly roundhouse kick). If I were to start a bulk program (basically increasing my caloric intake to a surplus instead of a deficit and a different weight training program), I would start gaining muscle and some fat... this would hurt my overall goals of a nice flat stomach (which I am not sure I can even get with the lose skin, but people say I can if I work at it hard enough).

So you can see the dilemma I have... actually you might not be able to... I have my wedding this July, and I want to make sure I don't PUFF up for the pictures or anything, and that is my greatest fear I think, being in a surplus and getting to be a BIG fatty again.

Depending on what day it is (or sometimes even hour) I think I should start the bulk because I won't really gain that much before the wedding, and sometimes I think I should continue to cut until the wedding, getting me even lower than 173 lbs... which I think might be a bit crazy and my family would be right in saying I look like a HIV patient.

Can I maybe get some input from people?
 
Depending on what day it is (or sometimes even hour) I think I should start the bulk because I won't really gain that much before the wedding, and sometimes I think I should continue to cut until the wedding, getting me even lower than 173 lbs... which I think might be a bit crazy and my family would be right in saying I look like a HIV patient.

I hear ya! Right now, I'm perfectly happy with the number on the scale, and wouldn't mind it being a bit higher. There are bits of me that IMHO are too skinny, and looking at them, I'd like to work on putting on some muscle. But there are other bits where I have a significant amount of subcutaneous fat that I'd like to lose. I think that for me, eating right around maintenance and adding resistance work will get me a bit farther along than I am now. But girls are different in that respect, maybe.
 
but I hate the pictures forum - it's so-- neeedy...

Post here dammit..

Done.

As you can see in my new signature, I have replaced the weight tracker...

So, I guess the "big announcement" is that I am going to start adding muscle now. I have finally realized I might be looking a bit too lanky... which is quite odd for me to type out.

With Steve helping me out in this thread, I have developed a plan to start upping my calories, reducing my cardio and increasing my weight training with a split routine.

I won't lie... I am nervous. I think I will become a fatty again. I don't know if I will see any REAL muscle gains by my wedding (July 19th) but I am hoping to not gain too much fat that I can't fit into my Tux that I just got measured for. I will be taking pictures at the beginning and every month (1st of).

I've also decided that my body needs a break for the rest of the week. No weight training or cardio (well, maybe a game of racquetball on Saturday, I love playing). I began upping my calories today to 2100. 1 gram of protein per lb of LBM is putting me at 150 grams of protein a day, and my fish oils ~6 grams a day covers the fats (doesn't mean I can't go over, just means I am well covered in that area). I don't think my diet will change in terms of selection, but just in terms of quantity. For instance, instead of 200 calories of oatmeal in the AM, I might get in 250. Not a real huge change, I will spread out the extra 200 calories over the day really, pack it more before and after my workout too (75 more before, and 75 more after perhaps).

I really want to post here often for reflection and venting purposes, so I do see this as a part of my weight training as well. My goal is to put on 3 lbs. of muscle by July 1st.... oh yeah, I will also probably purchase (or keep using the Omron HBF from the gym).
 
Remember as I said in the PM. Actually, let me copy and paste here b/c it's good for anyone to see who might be thinking about bulking:

Remember this very important fact...

It's not like you're going to cut once and bulk once. This is a process.... a very long one. I've done 20 cycles of cutting and bulking to get me to where I am today. At the end of each cut I wasn't always super lean and at the end of each bulk I wasn't always super big. Each cylce feeds off the previous until you're left with a finished product you're happy with. And even then, for most, it's a continual process.

It's also important to keep in mind that you aren't going to get fat overnight when you go into a surplus. Especially a controlled surplus. That's the whole point of keeping tabs on your bodily feedback. If you see that the metrics you don't want to see rising are going up considerably... you simply readjust and go from there.

It's hard to go wrong, really, assuming you follow that advice.
 
Remember as I said in the PM. Actually, let me copy and paste here b/c it's good for anyone to see who might be thinking about bulking:

Remember this very important fact...

It's not like you're going to cut once and bulk once. This is a process.... a very long one. I've done 20 cycles of cutting and bulking to get me to where I am today. At the end of each cut I wasn't always super lean and at the end of each bulk I wasn't always super big. Each cylce feeds off the previous until you're left with a finished product you're happy with. And even then, for most, it's a continual process.

It's also important to keep in mind that you aren't going to get fat overnight when you go into a surplus. Especially a controlled surplus. That's the whole point of keeping tabs on your bodily feedback. If you see that the metrics you don't want to see rising are going up considerably... you simply readjust and go from there.

It's hard to go wrong, really, assuming you follow that advice.

I'll respond to your PM here... I was totally thinking this btw... I can't wait to bulk (gain about 3-6 lbs of muscle) then do a six to eight week cut, and then continue to cycle in that fashion until I have a lean 190-200 on me... and I like the idea that it's a continual effort. Gives me a new obsession, which I enjoy having.

What are some of the things I want to see move in terms of a bulk? Tape measure in body parts is an obvious one... but what about BF%? I know there will be fat gains... but shouldn't the muscle gains pretty much out pace the fat gain? Thus a drop in BF still? I might be way off base there.

you know that's not true...

In my gut (no pun intended) I do know that it isn't true. I know I'll probably still be in my 32 Tux pants... but in my head, the way it plays games with me, its hard grasp it and accept it.
 
I'll respond to your PM here... I was totally thinking this btw... I can't wait to bulk (gain about 3-6 lbs of muscle) then do a six to eight week cut, and then continue to cycle in that fashion until I have a lean 190-200 on me... and I like the idea that it's a continual effort. Gives me a new obsession, which I enjoy having.

Yup, that's the beauty of it. It becomes an art, really, once you are perfectly in tune with your body. I've found myself not letting to of certain notions picked up from research and readings and it's hindered my ability to listen to my body and respond accordingly.

If you don't speak the same language as your body, which many don't, then that's a different story.

But over time, especially once you go through a cycle or two of bulking and cutting, you'll be more in tune.

Eventually, and this correlates to your point below, adding muscle will be a bitch, as you get nearer to your genetic limitations. For some that might happen in a year. For others, it could be years. It all depends on a bunch of things like training age, genetics, status, etc. For me though, I have to bust my ass and do all sorts of fancy diet and training manipulations to irk out small changes. So prep yourself for that. It gets tricky at this stage simply b/c you find it easy to try and force hypertrophy (since it's so hard to come by) with more food, but that's where you run into fat gain problems.

What are some of the things I want to see move in terms of a bulk? Tape measure in body parts is an obvious one... but what about BF%?

To be honest, I never track BF% anymore. I've been thinking about starting again for no specific reason beyond curiosity. I've been successful by simply tracking my weight and my tape measurements. I usually allow for a good 1-2 inch gain in my waist. I don't really care about the specific gain, but it's at that point where I start looking and feeling too soft compared to what I'm comfortable with. At that time is usually when I work back in a cut or stay at maintenance for a bit.

I know there will be fat gains... but shouldn't the muscle gains pretty much out pace the fat gain?

This really depends.

Genetics are a bitch for the most part. Partitioning is what your body does with excess energy. That's not the true definition, but works for the sake of this discussion. Training can manipulate this to an agree but a majority is genetically determined. That's why it's real important to find that sweet spot. And you're going about doing that the right way by bumping cals up nice and slow.
 
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