Consensus on sugar substitute?

Felgar

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So I've been in an office job for about 7 years now and in each year I've been gaining weight. I imagine this as a consequence of more innactivity, getting older, and eating worse at lunch. So for the past 6 months or so I've been trying to watch what I eat but there hasn't been much effect on the tendancy to gain weight. As it turns out, I eventually determined that my homemade Iced-Tea recipe is pretty much the same sugar and calorie content as the same volume of Nestea or Lipton canned beverage. Since I drink it pretty much like water, the extra 500-800 calories / day I was taking in from it was the 'missing link' in why I haven't been losing weight despite trying to eat less calories on the whole.

I could just drink water but that's not very fun so I've begun to experiment with alternative recipes. Turns out that the sugar is what makes it good. :) I don't trust synthetic sweeteners (except for maybe sucralose but even that has limitted supporting evidence and also an undesirable aftertaste). Essentially there needs to be quite a bit of sugar to counteract the lemon sourness and tea bitterness (those 3 being the only ingredients). I've often heard of natural fruit sugars being so much better for you but it turns out these are just basically fructose...

So I'm thinking maybe pure fructose instead of table sugar would work for me. But now I'm reading about how fructose can be so bad and is linked with obesity, etc. But in this application it doesn't make sense to me so I'm wondering what you all think. Since sugar is 50/50 glucose/fructose I'm getting the fructose anyways. And with fructose being almost twice as sweet, I could add about half as much with the same effect. Really if I only use half, all I've done is cut out the glucose which is the calorie-reduction I'm after. For the extra bit to come out with the very same sweetness I could add honey or maybe a very concentrated fruit juice (like raspberry) in order to add another flavour component also.

Curious what you guys think, but the way I see it fructose has no drawback to sucrose in those cases where you only use half as much, and gains from the higher GI index rating and lower overall calorie content...
 
uh-oh... im giving away the bartenders second most guarded secret... the secret to easy to make sweet tea :eek:

More than once I get someone from New England telling me how ice tea is done (sorry, but here we like our tea plain or with lemon). The trick I use, that satisfies even the most stubborn tea drinker is spiking the fresh brewed Ice tea with coke... about a 1-3 ratio of tea to coke; so in a tall 16oz glass of tea you would have about 4oz of coke and 12oz of tea. Diet coke works just as well doing this.

There you have it :p hope that works for ya... but you will never get my ginger-ale-in-a-jam recipe :p
 
Hehe... I'll give that a try. Iced tea recipes sure vary from region to region. Any thoughts in particular on my reasoning that in terms of health and metabolism, really 1/2 the fructose is no different at all than a full amount of sugar?
 
Hi Felgar, :)
I occasionally buy a fruit sugar in a yellow box (can't think of its name right now), which is fructose. On the packet it tells us you only need about 2/3 the quantity of regular sugar; and yes, it is very sweet. I find this a good item to have in the cupboard as it is low GI and therefore great if you want to keep your GI level down, or are diabetic, or have diabetic friends and / or family.
I don't blame you for not wanting to use artificial sweeteners; I don't use them either. If others wish to use them, that is fine by me, but I would prefer to have real sugar. Better the devil you know; is my motto.

Hope you find the answers you are looking for.

Elizabeth-Rose :)

P.S. I will be sure to check out the iced tea recipe...does it work with peppermint tea, also???
 
Ive cut back all sugars and only use either fruit or equal etc style sweetners.

It cuts back a ton of unneeded calories by doing so.
 
Since it's come up, I'll share specifically the Iced Tea recipe I use (which is non-diet and comes out about equal in calories to Nestea or Lipton in the cans). It's very good and I'd highly recommend it. Makes 1 Gallon.

- Brew 6 packs of Tetley Orange Pekoe tea for 6-8 hours.
- After dumping tea into jug, rinse the bags with cold water once or twice (without squeezing) and add that water to the jug.
- Add 1/2 cup sugar. A little less for more bite, or 2/3 for a smooth, sweeter taste.
- Add 1 can of frozen concentrated Lemonade, non or low pulp. Must be regular and NOT pink lemonade. No-name brands seem to work the best (co-op if you're in Canada)
- Fill the rest of the gallon jug with water.

It'll taste a bit better after sitting in the fridge for a day too, but as long as you've got cold enough water to make it cold, it's good immediately. Lately I've been refridgerating the tea pot after the 6 hour brewing period.

Anyways, back to my original dillemma I'm still working on a new low-calorie recipe. My current one (moderately decent but not great):
- Brew 4 (might try 5 next) tea bags for 6 hours.
- Add 150 ml of "Real Lemon" concentrated lemon juice.
- Add 1 cup sugar.

This is actually only about 40% of the calories of the real recipe, because the lemonade adds much more calories itself than the 1/2 cup sugar that is added.

But you can see what I'm thinking. If I cut the 1 cup sugar to 1/2 cup fructose, I can make a version which is only about 20% the calories of Lipton. It would only be about 30 calories per 500 ml, or 22 for a 355 ml can equivalent. And with a little highly concentrated raspberry juice it won't be as shy on flavour as my current revision.
 
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