Commited and starting out.

Hey guys, my first time posting, hopefully i'll become a long term member ;). and it seems like one of the best forums for advice on getting back into shape.

Anyway I've really set my mind to getting into shape and my main goal atm is to cut down on fat and get toned. I'm 17 years old and weigh any where from 170-175 lbs. Im looking for the best way to cut down on my fat most noticeably in my gut and legs and getting a toned, fit look.

I'm still unsure as to what my exact meals should be, and so far I've been using about the same meals.

1st.: Protein shake + natural oatmeal + bannana.

2nd.: Unsure here, i have access to a variety of fruit, but not much protein besides some low fat yogurt. I should probably bring something from home.

3rd.: Around 1 P.M. usually go out and get a grilled chicken sandwhich with a salad with no dressing.

4th. Protein shake + plus bannana and natural peanut butter...

5th. I usually just have some vegetables usually celery with peanut butter again.

I know im very close but not getting quite enough protein and probably a bit too many calories.

Anyway my workout so far seems to be.

Sunday: Cardio including Walking / Jogging treadmill 30 minutes (but i'm working my way up to 30 minutes so far im doing around 15.)

Monday: Biceps / Legs / Triceps

Tuesday: Cardio Walking / Jogging treadmill

Wednesday: Chest / Back / Shoulders

Thursday Cardio Walking / Jogging treadmill once more.

Friday + Saturday rest.

I know im not doing the best I could be doing, it's not the effort im lacking its just direction and I'd like someone to tell me what the best way to optimize this workout / diet might me. Thanks alot. :)
 
Check and plug in some foods you eat to get an idea of you calorie totals. Be careful though, some of the calorie amounts on the site are off, but you can make you own custom numbers for the foods you eat.

Also, I think you would benefit greatly from full body workouts, and ditching the split you have going. 3 full body workouts a week, consisting of compound movements would really benefit you, and be a major fat burner.
 
This is what you need to do:

This an approximation science, but you can narrow it down very close, if your meticulous in your vision when looking at the data.

Tweak your desire and passion by educating yourself on the basic requirements of losing fat tissue. With your age, sex, height, and weight, in mind, find your approximated base calorie needs (this is organ function, breathing, or bodily function needs). One can use the Benedict Formula.

Calculate your BMR:

The Harris Benedict equation determines calorie needs for men or woman as follows:

• It calculates your Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) calorie requirements, based on your height, weight, age and gender.

• It increases your BMR calorie needs by taking into account the number of calories you burn through activities such as exercise.

This gives you your total calorie requirement or approximated Maintenance Line (I call it the MT Line).

Step One : Calculate your BMR with the following formula:

•Women: BMR = 655 + (4.35 x weight in pounds) + (4.7 x height in inches) - (4.7 x age in years)
•Men: BMR = 66 + (6.23 x weight in pounds) + (12.7 x height in inches) - (6.8 x age in years)

Step Two : In order to incorporate activity into your daily caloric needs, do the following calculation:

•If you are sedentary : BMR x 1.2
•If you are lightly active: BMR x 1.375
•If you are moderately active (You exercise most days a week.): BMR x 1.55
•If you are very active (You exercise daily.): BMR x 1.725
•If you are extra active (You do hard labor or are in athletic training.): BMR x 1.9

Create a Calorie Deficit:

In order to lose weight, you must create a calorie deficit. It is easier and healthier to cut back your calorie intake a little bit at a time.

Every 3,500 calories is equivalent to approximated 1 pound.

If you cut back 500 calories a day, you will lose approximated 1 pound per week. (not necessarily all fat)

If you exercise to burn off 500 calories a day you will also lose approximately 1 pound per week.

The calorie deficit margin is just an example:

Apply this knowledge by backing off the approximated MT Line (approximated Maintenance line), say for example, a -500c per day, for about 1 week. Before the week begins, weigh yourself in the AM when you FIRST get up (do not eat yet) (remember your clothing, preferably with just underwear and t-shirt or like clothes). Note the time, and the approximated wgt.
Each day spread your caloric content out throughout the day (keep the body fed, with calories in the 300 to 500c approximated calories each meal), or a like division which mirrors your end caloric deficit limit (meaning MT-500c).

This way you have your entire day and body encircled with nutrition (I assume you already know to eat clean), which if your eating right, will give an approximated good energy (not optimal because your in deficit) to fuel your training and exercising schedule.

At the end of the week, on the same day, the same time, with the same like clothes, weigh yourself again. Note whether you lost or gained tissue (or weight I mean). To further assist you, I want to tell you that for every approximated caloric deficit of (-3500c), one could lose 1lb of fat tissue. (though some may not all be fat tissue, this information is for another question, and isn't presently suited here).

Now, in this example you were calculating a -500c per day deficit. There needs to be -3500c to lose approximated 1lbs of fat. Now lets do some basic math. -500cX7=-3500c. With all things considered equal, and you were meticulous and faithful on the diet, you should have been CLOSE to losing at least one pound of tissue in the week.

If this didn't happen, this means you need to make finer adjustments, and the MT line is not accurate, and you need to adjust this on your own.

Based upon the FEEDBACK your body is giving you, ask yourself how faithful you were on the diet, AND how faithful in training (whether you kept the training schedule (if you didn't, this would effect the caloric equation, no?!), AND how accurate you figured in your activities caloric wise.........but, you have the base information to begin making adjustments.

The calorie SURPLUS margin is just an example: (attempt to gain weight)

Apply this knowledge by going OVER the approximated MT Line (approximated Maintenance line), say for example, a +500c per day, for about 1 week. Before the week begins, weigh yourself in the AM when you FIRST get up (do not eat yet) (remember your clothing, preferably with just underwear and t-shirt or like clothes). Note the time, and the approximated wgt.
Each day spread your caloric content out throughout the day (keep the body fed, with calories in the 300 to 500c approximated calories each meal), or a like division which mirrors your end caloric deficit limit (meaning MT+500c).

This way you have your entire day and body encircled with nutrition (I assume you already know to eat clean), which if your eating right, will give an approximated good energy (not optimal because your in deficit) to fuel your training and exercising schedule.

At the end of the week, on the same day, the same time, with the same like clothes, weigh yourself again. Note whether you lost or gained tissue (or weight I mean).

If this didn't happen, this means you need to make finer adjustments, and the MT line is not accurate, and you need to adjust this on your own



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The Nutrients are an essential factor in the diet; however, the law of energy balance within the DIET, is the ultimate KING while the Nutrients can play in some decisions made within the body.

Do yourself a favor, figure out your MT line, adjust off of this, eat well balanced spaced out meals (DONT EVER starve YOURSELF), AND listen to your body for the results.

While you are trying to figure out your body, IT WILL PAY YOU BACK, I promise. You have to learn to MASTER yourself to become the master of weight loss for YOURSELF.
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Deficit dieting is the fat burner, and EVERYTHING follows after this. The deficit can be implemented through the diet or exercise can cause the deficit when you know your MT line reference. Without a adequate deficit, cardio WILL NOT burn fat off you. This is WHY I don't partake in the cardio debates of heart rate, etc........because the bottom line is the deficit diet....period, debate OVER. If you stick to the basic: The Law of energy balance, and tip this to the negative side of the equation, you will be on your way, with everything considered equal and your healthy.

Losing fat is sort of like draining a pool. It usually leaves the shallow end first before the larger end starts to diminish. But, fat and/or tissue is lost all over when deficit dieting.

If you want to lose overall body fat, get your diet in order, eat clean, learn what your approximate MT reference line is according to activities (and back off a HEALTHY margin), and perform overall weight training, and of course, include cardio (cardio DOES have its benefits other than burning calories, carbs, fat, ect).

The most effective beginning is to look at your diet, and make a diet journal in my opinion, THEN work in a training program around this diet.
 
try hardder on youir workouts! you are 17 and only 170 lbs... put some effort into things. TRY HARD, work HARD feel your musclked strain, drop and do pushups, jumping jacks, get your heart rate up and work your asssss off.

SNAP out of it and get to work!

FF
 
im wanting to build muscle as well.

on a seperate note i woke up this morning with a weird nagging pain in my chest back and jaw almost like heart burn, it might not be related but it didn't let me sleep. Oh well, keeping at it.
 
As far as your workout goes, you are working biceps on triceps one day and back and chest on another. However, most chest exercises really work the triceps and most back exercises really work the biceps. The advice I can give you is to look into a good full body workout, and hit everything at once. I won't give you an example because I'm in the process of making my own right now, but what you are doing now doesnt make too much sense.
 
Anyway my workout so far seems to be.

Sunday: Cardio including Walking / Jogging treadmill 30 minutes (but i'm working my way up to 30 minutes so far im doing around 15.)

Monday: Biceps / Legs / Triceps

Tuesday: Cardio Walking / Jogging treadmill

Wednesday: Chest / Back / Shoulders

Thursday Cardio Walking / Jogging treadmill once more.

Friday + Saturday rest.

My friend, Phate :)boxing_smiley: ), seems to have stolen my post I had originally written but saved for new members.........:).........but this will get the brotha started on the IMPORTANT diet side of the equation.......


I think you need to change your routine, and if a FBW will not fit than a UPPER/LOWER split will work in the goal you seek. You can do cardio the same day as your upper or lower or on rest days. At least 3 to 4 times per week----if this fits within the confinement of your personal goal (which at this time it does).

What exercises have you been doing? What have the sets and reps been?
If you want assistance......come back here and answer these questions:

1. I want to know what you calcuated your MT Line with activities to be. I want to know the deficit after you deduct approximately -500c (and mind you this -500c is an EXAMPLE deficit)

2. I want to know what you have been doing in training: exercises (all), sets, reps, time of rest between sets, and how many times per week you train, and how long you have been training.

3. I want to know whether a FBW or a Upper/Lower Split fits within your life style activities.

Then we can get into the type of exercises, and get to the heart of the matter.....and get you started on the right track!



ROCK on!


ROCK IT!


BE YOUR BEST!



Chillen
 
1. I want to know what you calcuated your MT Line with activities to be. I want to know the deficit after you deduct approximately -500c (and mind you this -500c is an EXAMPLE deficit)

1. My MT Line after calculation is 2637.

After -500c deficit 2137

2. I want to know what you have been doing in training: exercises (all), sets, reps, time of rest between sets, and how many times per week you train, and how long you have been training.

Bicep curls and hammer curls
Flat bench press.
Leg extensions.
Shoulder presses
Treadmill walking / jogging.

Need more ideas. :confused:

For exercises requiring weights I usually do 4 sets, ( 1 warmup) with 10 reps each or the closet I can get to 10.

I can train for 5 days a week, I have worked with weights and such before but this is only been my 1-2nd week fully training watching my diet etc.

3. I want to know whether a FBW or a Upper/Lower Split fits within your life style activities.

Im not sure if a FBW fits within my life, I don't have access to a gym. I have access to dumbells and varying weights, and bench press, which also doubles for my legs at the end of the bench. And I have access to a tread mill. So im not sure if a FBW can be done with those tools. Thanks alot!
 
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