Close Grip Seat Cable Rows (FORM)

OK...so another form question. I'm a slave to form, what can I say.

Seated cable rows, using a close grip.

Elbows tucked into sides, out parallel to the floor or at a 45 degree angle in between the two aforementioned?

I worked them into my routine (back/leg) on the cable machine, which goes up to 80kg. I did 15 @ 40kg, 12 @ 60kg then 12 @ 80kg, with a 45 second rest between sets. I seriously didn't feel them work a thing, perhaps a little in my bi's towards the end of the last set, but that's it.

So should I ditch them? I most definetly feel a lot more from close and wide grip lateral pulls etc.
 
Personally I think barbell or DB rows are better than cable rows. Also chins/pullups are better than lat pulldowns also. Of course, JMO. I think if you incorporate these into your back routine you would get better results. Then again, your diet has to be in check to see the real fruits of your labor.
 
about bendt over BB rows.. are you suppose to put shoulder shoulderblades together first, and THEN pull the weight up with your arms? on a sitting rowing machine in our gym, thats how we are instructed to do it.. so i was wondering if its the same for BB rows?
 
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