Biggest Loser Math? (biggest looser)
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wishes
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i believe they have done before. I dont understand why they get them doing so much running. That much running with so much excess weight cant be good for your body. To much impacting.
Cycling or long bush hikes etc is so much better for you. I would hate to be stuck with shin splits in a competition like that
Cycling or long bush hikes etc is so much better for you. I would hate to be stuck with shin splits in a competition like that
klingonacademy
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I don't think it's a hoax. These people are all MORBIDLY obese, their food is controlled and they are moving or working out 8 hrs a day.
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I love this show. Very inspiring. The hige weight loss comes from at least 4hrs each day work out in the gym and low calorie diet. BTW anybody have any favorites for the upcoming finale? I want the girl whose mother got sent home last week to win.
BiancaV88
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Calories and the math confuse me in general. I did a cal calculator and told me to eat about 2,800 a day. but apparently 3500 equals a pound...so how do I lose that if I don't consume that?! i get lost. i like to watch the biggest loser every once awhile but its not that inspiring because they are working out ALL the time. I would lose weight too if I were working out 6 hours a day. but im in REALITY. i have a job, i go to school, and im friggin tired. lol
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lol@ friggin tired.
Well what happens is they leave their lives at home and are placed on a ranch where all they have are healthy foods, so they go from eating fat greasy foods to eating extremely clean. Then they work out like it was their jobs and eat no less than 1200 calories a day up to I believe 1700. They also split up their meals to three meals a day and two snacks. Being that everything is low calorie and all healthy it's easy to only eat that many calories a day. NO FAST FOOD OR GREASE, HIGH CALORIE THINGS LIKE BROWNIES OR CHEESES.
SO pretty much, they leave their home eat extremely healthy and are working out about five to six hours a day....
At their extreme weight it is easy to lose a very high amount of weight when you first start out. The smaller you get the harder it is because your not carrying around as much weight, thus your burning less calories. So it's about will power and making yourself eat nothing but the right things and working out whenever you get a chance. It is possible, doesn't mean it's healthy, but they also do a lot of strength trainig which gives you muscle also allowing you to burn more calories because it increases your metabolism...
I'm not a trainier or anything like that, so i'm sure there is more to add, I just can't think of it at the moment.
But if your not extremely obese a number like that will be almost impossible... You have to eat.. and eating five times a day (about every 2-3 hours) even if it's just an apple then you keep your body burning fat because it does not go into starvation mode due to the fact that it knows when it will be getting food and does not have to guess. Our bodies are smart and complicating things... You just have to learn what works for you!
SO pretty much, they leave their home eat extremely healthy and are working out about five to six hours a day....
At their extreme weight it is easy to lose a very high amount of weight when you first start out. The smaller you get the harder it is because your not carrying around as much weight, thus your burning less calories. So it's about will power and making yourself eat nothing but the right things and working out whenever you get a chance. It is possible, doesn't mean it's healthy, but they also do a lot of strength trainig which gives you muscle also allowing you to burn more calories because it increases your metabolism...
I'm not a trainier or anything like that, so i'm sure there is more to add, I just can't think of it at the moment.
But if your not extremely obese a number like that will be almost impossible... You have to eat.. and eating five times a day (about every 2-3 hours) even if it's just an apple then you keep your body burning fat because it does not go into starvation mode due to the fact that it knows when it will be getting food and does not have to guess. Our bodies are smart and complicating things... You just have to learn what works for you!
wishes
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Without doing any exercise in a day at all , just sitting, your body still has to use heart, lungs, kidneys, etc right? Thats burning calories. Its called your BMR (basel metabolic Rate iirc). So you can eat say 2000 calories and use 2800 calories just being alive, Then say you did 200 calories burnt with exercise as well which means you are now like this
Used: 3000
-Eaten: 2000
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Total: -1000
So if you are -1000 calories for 3 and a half days, thats -3500 which is your 1lb. So you would potentially loose 1lb in 3.5 days. Clear as mud? good. Other things factor into it but read the stickys under newcommers.
Stop making excuses, im a mother of 4, i work fulltime, and i still managed to do it. Doesnt take 6 hours a day however, but 1 is a good start. My day was so busy i had to make that extra hour by getting up an hour early at 5-6am.
Its hard, but you get used to it.
BiancaV88
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okay......im saying if i were working out that many hours in a day id be losing 20 lbs a week too. get it? everyone has damn excuses. and everyone is busy and WILL find time. not everyone can go to a bootcamp and devote it. okay i work 32 hours and have 16 hours of college; i may not HAVE KIDS but i am still exhausted. EXCUSE ME.
wishes
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Yep absolutly. Not to mention im guessing they get completely worn down!
Yep i never said you were not exhausted at all, just that 'too busy' isnt an excuse.
I do a lot of my exercise in the morning before im too tired if that helps any
jeffisbig
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Eep, looks like Bianca was just saying she didn't have time to do the Biggest Loser type exercise of hours a day, not that she couldn't at all.
Its not realistic for anyone who works full time, let alone while attending school, to do that much exercise. I have a hard time fitting in everything I do in a day.
Its not realistic for anyone who works full time, let alone while attending school, to do that much exercise. I have a hard time fitting in everything I do in a day.
nicolepsu2006
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The amount of exercise they do per day is not feasible for the normal person who needs to make money to survive. This is not an excuse or a slight to people that don't do what Biggest Loser contestants do, but if you replaced your 40 hour per week job (or more for those with more than one job or more demanding jobs) with nothing but focusing on your weight, than you can do it too. So quit your job and spend that time working out. Then take all the extra money you have (after quitting your job) and spend it on nutritionists and trainers. Love that idea.
I know I sound bitter, but it is just realism. There is a reason that models and actresses have the figures they do. They get paid to do it.
If someone paid me to stay in shape, I would take that job in a heartbeat... and have the body to show for it.
I know I sound bitter, but it is just realism. There is a reason that models and actresses have the figures they do. They get paid to do it.
If someone paid me to stay in shape, I would take that job in a heartbeat... and have the body to show for it.
Muggwuffin
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i always found this show too be unrealistic, and possibly unfair,i may be totaly of the ball here(only watched it a couple of times) but if i remeber right they dont go by bodyfat lost and go by % of weight lost? well i know its about losing weight but it dosent send out a healthy message really...
yes too much weight is bad, but surly at the rate these guys are losing surly there dropping a ton of muscle with it? cant be good in the long run since thats what helps lose fat?!
yes too much weight is bad, but surly at the rate these guys are losing surly there dropping a ton of muscle with it? cant be good in the long run since thats what helps lose fat?!
JackStands
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Yeah they're dropping weight way too quickly and not building any muscle. They become what's called "skinny fat." And we all know that muscle burns fat, so I have no idea why the trainers on that show don't put an emphasis on that. It sends an unrealistic message.
Obese people can drop weight quickly without worrying so much about losing muscle. They have to lose muscle if they're ever going to reach a normal weight for the simple reason that a hefty portion of all that weight they gained on their way into obesity was lean body mass.
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ronin1026
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Lots of interesting answers, the science though is that it doesn't happen in a week, you are watching the culmination of weeks of filming and good editing, the reasoning behind commercials. The math says that in order to lose 20lbs in one week you need a deficit of 70,000 calories. Not possible! Be inspired by their desire to change and their determination to succeed, but don't get caught up in the scale.
You have to consider that they have absolutely nothing else to do but eat healthy and exercise. Obviously, this doesn't apply to the average person. On that show, they are exercising a good 5 hours per day. Given the very high weight of the people on the show, they could easily be burning 500 calories per hour (or much more depending on the activity; my top estimate would be 800-1000 calories/hour). So, if you burn an average of 500 calories/hour for 5 hours, that's 2500 calories per day. Now, at their weight, they could probably eat about 2,500-3,000 calories to MAINTAIN their weight. So, assume that their diets on the show are about 1,500-2,000. So, they have a 1,000 calorie deficit in their diet. 1,000 (diet deficit) + 2,500 (exercise) = 3,500 calorie deficit/day. So, that is one pound per day leading to 7 pounds/week. Now, sometimes they exercise even more and eat even less (or weigh more), which could lead to even more weight loss.
This isn't even including the fact that was mentioned before which is that one week on the show may not be one week in real time. If they actually have two weeks, 14 pounds/"one week" show could be possible, etc. Unless you can dedicate several hours per day to exercise like they can, you won't be able to lose weight that quickly. However, it is better to lose weight slower! Your muscles will have more time to develop, and your skin will have more time to adjust to your new size (hopefully decreasing saggy skin/stretch marks).
One thing to note, however, is that exercise is the key for them, and could be for you. If you lose weight by cutting calories and don't add any exercise, your muscles will be eaten by your body (dramatic, but true). You need to at least have a little toning or some form of activity to help push you into burning the fat instead of the muscle (if you absolutely can't exercise, eating a slightly higher protein ratio than the standard 10-15% will also help to maintain muscle mass; suggestions on this forum are about 30%, and that seems reasonable to me since you can still have a good 30% from carbohydrate which the body likes to fuel your brain and nerve function). So, if you are looking to speed up weight loss, adding exercise is way healthier and more efficient than cutting your calories extremely low (remember that strength training builds muscle which increases your metabolism at all times and cardiovascular training can vamp up the metabolism for up to 12 hours after the activity).
This isn't even including the fact that was mentioned before which is that one week on the show may not be one week in real time. If they actually have two weeks, 14 pounds/"one week" show could be possible, etc. Unless you can dedicate several hours per day to exercise like they can, you won't be able to lose weight that quickly. However, it is better to lose weight slower! Your muscles will have more time to develop, and your skin will have more time to adjust to your new size (hopefully decreasing saggy skin/stretch marks).
One thing to note, however, is that exercise is the key for them, and could be for you. If you lose weight by cutting calories and don't add any exercise, your muscles will be eaten by your body (dramatic, but true). You need to at least have a little toning or some form of activity to help push you into burning the fat instead of the muscle (if you absolutely can't exercise, eating a slightly higher protein ratio than the standard 10-15% will also help to maintain muscle mass; suggestions on this forum are about 30%, and that seems reasonable to me since you can still have a good 30% from carbohydrate which the body likes to fuel your brain and nerve function). So, if you are looking to speed up weight loss, adding exercise is way healthier and more efficient than cutting your calories extremely low (remember that strength training builds muscle which increases your metabolism at all times and cardiovascular training can vamp up the metabolism for up to 12 hours after the activity).