bi-triceps workouts

hey yall first off great site and you guys know your stuff and give good advice!!just back to the gym after a loooong layoff.i'm tryin to get a bit bigger with muscle gains then start a cutting routine to shed excess weight.currently 6'3 212lbs,38in waist so not acceptable there!!workouts have been goin good so far and have gained quite a bit of strength in just 6 weeks and dropped like 13 pounds real quick now put back on about 5lbs.changed my diet drastically to high protein more frequent smaller meals suplementing with iso protein shake,flaxseed,multivitamins, but have a question about my routine...i know the different excercises fairly well and mix them up except for a few core ones like bench,preacher curl,pulldowns etc..
all sets between 6 and 10 reps pretty much to failure...also play hockey twice a week high intensity..

mon-chest(12-15 sets) with about 6-8 sets of tri excercises/abs

tue-back(12-15 sets) with about 6-8 sets biceps after

wed-cardio/abs/squats and legpress

thurs-shoulders(9 heavy power sets then 12-15 rippers)

fri-12-15 sets of bi/tri each and a bit of chest again if up to it


does this routine seem alright or need some work....tryin to work my triceps harder and 2x per week cuz they tend to tire quicker than shoulders/chest on press sets and biceps cuz,well just cuz!!!thanks for the response
 
Do you have dips in your routine right now? They'll hit your triceps pretty good, if you do them on friday with the arms day you could do the dips and you'll hit your chest also.

Also, I wouldn't go to failure for every set. It's great to go to failure on the last set, or even different weeks, but not every single set of every single exercise, I'm not sure if that's what you meant with the "pretty much to failure?"
 
ya not too clear there bro i meant say on last set of bench would be hell with a spotter to make it to the 6th rep...and dips ya good idea forgot about those..wonder if i can do them still!!
 
If your looking to add lean muscle mass then your waisting your time.
There is no need to work bi's or tri's on there own, you work them enough during your workout.
your basic, chest/shoulder presses and lat/trap work will work your shoulders plenty.
The only reason you need to work your arms is if your a pro bodybuilder.
If your working your arms you just gonna make them tired, if they are tired then you'll be failing in other areas as well.

In a few months when your chest, delts, traps and lats are much stronger, there will be more stress on your arms which will work them even more.

my advice...
your arms are gonna get big anyway, put the effort in to large muscle groups to see better biger results.

Plus, the bigger your arms are, the smaller your chest looks!!!!
 
so your saying it would be negative results to do the arm workout on friday?i wanted to work my chest 2x week thats why i added it on fri.the friday workout is kinda like an optional thing since i have worked most muscle groups already that week and wanted to train and strengthen the tris more cuz they seem to tire before my pecs do.i agree with you though because my arms are definately pumped after my back workout,thats why i threw in a few more sets like hammers and reverse,you get the picture...thanks for the help!!
 
as i said before, there is no point in doing any arm isolation work.

Dont do leg press ether, if you can do leg presses after squatting, then you didnt squat low enough.
Squats are some much better for your whole body, add another set if you can.
 
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