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Best Full Body Exercises?
- Thread starter cannavaro
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I looked at the book you suggested. It looks like just another "conman" sports book that promises way too much. This is the last part of the blurb.
"Gain more brute strength in days than you did in years of bodybuilding or calisthenics; Discover the martial secrets of instant power generation -- for rapid surges in applied strength; Discover how to get a world-class powerlifter's quality workout -- using your body only; Master the one-arm/one-leg push-up for crushing upper body"
Using only your body, aye???
If this book really can teach you to get stronger by days with body weight, than years with weights then thats amazing!!!!
I'll cancel my gym membership and just buy this book for £20.
Why would anybody goin a gym when this book is about?
maybe cos its like "the jealously guarded secrets of Chinese Kung Fu masters"
as the blurb reads!!!!!
It's amazing why some ppl get away with.
"Gain more brute strength in days than you did in years of bodybuilding or calisthenics; Discover the martial secrets of instant power generation -- for rapid surges in applied strength; Discover how to get a world-class powerlifter's quality workout -- using your body only; Master the one-arm/one-leg push-up for crushing upper body"
Using only your body, aye???
If this book really can teach you to get stronger by days with body weight, than years with weights then thats amazing!!!!
I'll cancel my gym membership and just buy this book for £20.
Why would anybody goin a gym when this book is about?
maybe cos its like "the jealously guarded secrets of Chinese Kung Fu masters"
as the blurb reads!!!!!
It's amazing why some ppl get away with.
No no no. You need to READ this book! It does seem from the outside that it is a bit faddy but believe me its not.
Firstly, Pavel does not claim that you should not do weights- far from it. He states that you can have amazing strength without equipment -which you can- and describes one legged squats and one arm-one leg push ups as examples.
This is done by altering levers, slowing down reps and introducing instability. Could you do 5 perfect one-legged squats 5-0-5 count starting dead from the floor so you have no springback?
If you can please post a video so I can see.
Can you do a one armed one legged push up with your feet elevated on a chair with perfect form?
Pavel does not claim that you do not need weights- he is just offering an interesting alternative.
But please read the book before slating it.
Firstly, Pavel does not claim that you should not do weights- far from it. He states that you can have amazing strength without equipment -which you can- and describes one legged squats and one arm-one leg push ups as examples.
This is done by altering levers, slowing down reps and introducing instability. Could you do 5 perfect one-legged squats 5-0-5 count starting dead from the floor so you have no springback?
If you can please post a video so I can see.
Can you do a one armed one legged push up with your feet elevated on a chair with perfect form?
Pavel does not claim that you do not need weights- he is just offering an interesting alternative.
But please read the book before slating it.
cannavaro said:This is done by altering levers, slowing down reps and introducing instability. Could you do 5 perfect one-legged squats 5-0-5 count starting dead from the floor so you have no springback?
Whats the point? you need explosive power in your legs, or you'll never make big gains.
Ive been reading a lot of chad waterburrys stuff this week. He wrote an article called "building your rep". Basicly it states that there is no point in having your eccentric reps any slower than 2s (roughly) as you are just using up your stored energy. You need to be explosive in your movements or you are not recruting all your muscle fibers.
cannavaro said:But please read the book before slating it.
I'd be happy to read it. I'll give you my address so you can post it to me!
I suppose it all depends on what people want from their training.
It is all good to read the views of many people and broaden your horizons. I am not interested in bodybuilding personally but I will read books and articles to see if there is anything I can apply to my own stuff.
Keep up the healthy and educational debate MOK!
It is all good to read the views of many people and broaden your horizons. I am not interested in bodybuilding personally but I will read books and articles to see if there is anything I can apply to my own stuff.
Keep up the healthy and educational debate MOK!
I have been training elite level gymnasts for over 14 years.
You are exactly right! No specific weight training is done. It is all body weight exercises and routines which use body weight. The volume of the training the perform is very high and the exercises as well as the routines are FULL BODY exercises!
All of these exercises and routines are done fairly slowly so that the body fatigues by 10-12 reps; falling into the hypertrophy rep scheme.
You are exactly right! No specific weight training is done. It is all body weight exercises and routines which use body weight. The volume of the training the perform is very high and the exercises as well as the routines are FULL BODY exercises!
All of these exercises and routines are done fairly slowly so that the body fatigues by 10-12 reps; falling into the hypertrophy rep scheme.
manofkent said:I dont know any male gymnasts so I cant really get involved in that.
You don't need to personally know any gymnasts to get my point.You can catch a gymnastics event on tv.Simply look at their physiqes to get an idea of the type of hypertrophy one can accomplish through bodyweight training.Then watch them during their events.They do flips, somersaults and all kinds of explosive movements which require by their very nature, strength and power.
Watch them when they mount the rings and get into a support position.Simply going from the floor to a position where they are supporting themselves above the rings with arms locked out requires tremendous strength and power.
My contention in arguing this point is simple; you can get plenty big and strong without weights.I'm not against weights by any means, but neglecting some of the terrific bodyweight exercises out there can potentially limit some great gains, not just in size, strength and power, but in flexibility, balance and coordination as well.
ballast said:but neglecting some of the terrific bodyweight exercises out there can potentially limit some great gains, not just in size, strength and power, but in flexibility, balance and coordination as well.
I train flexibility, balance and coordination seperatly. I find I get much better results from both. Then they all come together in the martial arts.
Most of those things intertwine with eachother. To say they are all seperate and then come together again in martial arts is overcomplicating an issue. You're working balance, flexibility, etc all to an extent while doing anything from lifting to kicking.
Plus, I don't get how what you said pertains to the quote you used. The fact you do them all "seperate" is not really the issue at hand.
Plus, I don't get how what you said pertains to the quote you used. The fact you do them all "seperate" is not really the issue at hand.
I totally disagree on the statement that pushps are only for beginners. If you ask any body builder, professional ahtlete, karate sensei or student they will tell you the pushups not only have the ability to build powerful upper body strength if done correctly, but will build your core and abs as well...again..if done correctly.
Justme11 said:If you ask any body builder, professional ahtlete, karate sensei or student
Well im a Karate Sensei and Kai, My opinion is that push ups are good. Untill you reach the point where they cant help you anymore, then they are only good for maintaining strength, not developing. And if you want to build mass (which is usfull for most impact/combat sports) you need weights.
If body weight was good for all sports, then all sportsmen/women would do it.
ManO-
Don't you think you can still build continuous upper body strength doing pushups if you alternate hand positions, or distances from center? Placing hands further apart for Pec work, and closer in for Tri's? It changes the dynamics of the "learned" pattern your muscles take on with only doing shoulder width pushups?
Don't you think you can still build continuous upper body strength doing pushups if you alternate hand positions, or distances from center? Placing hands further apart for Pec work, and closer in for Tri's? It changes the dynamics of the "learned" pattern your muscles take on with only doing shoulder width pushups?
Once you can do 5x8 Zim-Push ups, and 5x10 one handed push ups then its time to move on.
As I mentioned in a previous post, I did bodyweight exersises for 11years. In the last year I made no gains in mass, and little gains in strength. I made more strength gains in my first few weeks of weight training than I did in my last 6months of body weight.
Yes you can build strength, but only so much, and very slowly.
Plus with Bod-Wht its very hard to tell if your acctually making any gains at all, With weight training its easyer to record your gains.
I admit that I'm fairly new to weight training (1year). But when it comes to body weight training I know my stuff, I did it strictly for 11years.
As I mentioned in a previous post, I did bodyweight exersises for 11years. In the last year I made no gains in mass, and little gains in strength. I made more strength gains in my first few weeks of weight training than I did in my last 6months of body weight.
Yes you can build strength, but only so much, and very slowly.
Plus with Bod-Wht its very hard to tell if your acctually making any gains at all, With weight training its easyer to record your gains.
I admit that I'm fairly new to weight training (1year). But when it comes to body weight training I know my stuff, I did it strictly for 11years.
manofkent said:I admit that I'm fairly new to weight training (1year). But when it comes to body weight training I know my stuff, I did it strictly for 11years.
You have my curiousity aroused now.Would you mind posting a sample bodyweight workout of yours from the past which you would describe as challenging?Thank you.
Matt
from about 5yrs ago.
shoulders, chest, Triceps
Handstand push ups - walking on hands, very wide push up, low hand push up, high hand push up. 6sets for handstand, 4 sets each for push ups (as many reps as pos)
for legs we used to squat with someone on our back, or do one leg squats.
for lats various styles of chin up. traps - upturned shrugs.
From last 2years - handstand push ups - onehanded pushup - zim push up.
The rest was very sim to before.
we did mostly pairs work training strength such as pushing eachother accross a room, feet throws for abs, lifting eachother, etc...
No real programs, our instructor used to keep it all in his head. He knew what we had worked and needed to work next.
shoulders, chest, Triceps
Handstand push ups - walking on hands, very wide push up, low hand push up, high hand push up. 6sets for handstand, 4 sets each for push ups (as many reps as pos)
for legs we used to squat with someone on our back, or do one leg squats.
for lats various styles of chin up. traps - upturned shrugs.
From last 2years - handstand push ups - onehanded pushup - zim push up.
The rest was very sim to before.
we did mostly pairs work training strength such as pushing eachother accross a room, feet throws for abs, lifting eachother, etc...
No real programs, our instructor used to keep it all in his head. He knew what we had worked and needed to work next.
Looks pretty good.Not sure why you didn't gain any strength from it.
Handstand push-ups performed so that you are doing a full-range of movement, that is, placing your hands on objects such as chairs or paralettes so that you can lower your body to the point that your hands are at shoulder level in the bottom of the handstand, take an extremely high amount of strength.Anyone that can do 10 of these is strong.
One-legged squats performed so that the non-working leg is held out straight in front of the body and no balancing aides are used not only requires a lot of strength but balance as well.You are basically squatting about 90-95% of your bodyweight with one leg.
These are two of the most challenging bodyweight exercises that you can do.Failure to gain strength from these may be as a result of not using the proper progression.And exercises like one-legged squats and pull-ups can be made more challenging by holding or attaching weight to your body, similar to the progression used when adding weight to a bar in freeweight exercises.
Handstand push-ups performed so that you are doing a full-range of movement, that is, placing your hands on objects such as chairs or paralettes so that you can lower your body to the point that your hands are at shoulder level in the bottom of the handstand, take an extremely high amount of strength.Anyone that can do 10 of these is strong.
One-legged squats performed so that the non-working leg is held out straight in front of the body and no balancing aides are used not only requires a lot of strength but balance as well.You are basically squatting about 90-95% of your bodyweight with one leg.
These are two of the most challenging bodyweight exercises that you can do.Failure to gain strength from these may be as a result of not using the proper progression.And exercises like one-legged squats and pull-ups can be made more challenging by holding or attaching weight to your body, similar to the progression used when adding weight to a bar in freeweight exercises.