Before/Inbetween/Almost After - Pooh Style
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LandonsBaby
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wow..crap sake, you are awesome.
Darth Pooh
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*looks around for Keith...desperate to avoid work...damn, not here*
sigh....back to work I go
Sorry busy day at school, damn kids and their learning!
Heh... thanks.
Kinda had a "fat" day... wasn't happy with the way I looked at all in the mirror. Kinda goes back to what Ali and I had discussed yesterday, some days you just can't shake that image... sigh.
ali2
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Don't you know you aren't there to teach...you are there to keep me entertained damnit!!! hehe
I hear you on the fat days, I have been having a few of them...
Darth Pooh
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Don't you know you aren't there to teach...you are there to keep me entertained damnit!!! hehe
I hear you on the fat days, I have been having a few of them...
I know why Ali... I just slipped up a little. Sorry.
Today is a lot better with the self-esteem. Funny thing is... it doesn't matter how many compliments you get when you hear them (went out to the bar with my brother's work friends, cops love their drink, ice water for me), and they hadn't seen me in a few months. Needless to say, they were REALLY floored, but it didn't help my mood any. Also ran into a childhood friend of mine, a guy I know who lived next door to me for 15 years... walked right past me. Been about two years since he's seen me... he felt totally bad. Despite all of those "events", I still hated how I looked. It then gets hard to eat the remaining 500 or so calories that I have left... But you do it because you have to.
At anyrate, I'm what you would consider fit now... or at least in shape. Doesn't change the fact that I still think and feel fat. Some days I feel like my abs will show up any day now... the next day might think I'll never see them. Key point out of all this crappy talk is... that is a device that can be used FOR the cause or against the cause. If you've created a good support system, or even a good system at all, that type of emotional thought behavior is good FOR the cause.
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ali2
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Keith...I want to hug you
I totally understand how you feel, someone can tell me how amazing I look and then I see how I still have this horrible belly and the damage I have wrought on myself and it is very easy to get down about it. Like you said, you can also take that and turn it into motivation to work that much harder. I think I may always think and feel fat, it is like a scar I am leaving on myself after years of abuse. I would love to overcome it but it is a very very hard thing to do.
Darth Pooh
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Keith...I want to hug you
I think I may always think and feel fat, it is like a scar I am leaving on myself after years of abuse. I would love to overcome it but it is a very very hard thing to do.
I am having less of those fat days... but they still exist and it's something I hope to find guidance on. I worry that I actually will get TOO obsessed and do harm to my body. I don't want a bulimic/anorexic complex.
ali2
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I think it takes a certain kind of personality to end up like that and if you were diciplined enough to lose 100lbs over time, you probably have a good handle on yourself.
Darth Pooh
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I don't mean developing one of those disorders per se, but maybe, dunno... really getting too thin. Had a few of those comments today... like everyday, "It's time you stopped losing weight". Annoying and frustrating, makes me think they might have a point? But, I know I still have that flab and midsection that needs to be trimmed... thats the battle of thoughts in my head constantly.
ali2
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Well, I think that there is a difference b/t wanting to reduce your BF and get more cut than you are and looking like one of those starving children you see on the news.
I think that people have a certain comfort level and that if you are changing your appearance, maybe you are changing who you are as well. I find that people who say that believe that the change is through and through and fear that you will no longer be the person they knew you to be.
I think you know well enough what is healthy and what isn't. You look terrific and have worked so hard for what you have now, don't let the naysayers spoil it for you.
Darth Pooh
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This is why I love you... thanks.
Almost punched someone out this weekend for calling me obsessed. Sunday dinners at her parent's house every week and I was told that when I weigh out my food that I am obsessive. I've taken it "too far". This is someone themselves who is dealing with a weight struggle and has lost some weight on weight watchers, but never took it to the next level. Kinda lost weight but looks the same (thinner "fat version" of themselves, if that even makes sense)... at any rate, they don't understand why I can't let it go one day a week and just eat what I want. The funny thing here is... I do, but it won't be at Sunday dinners! I mean, its all countable and her dad has a scale to boot. If I am going to splurge during the week, it's going to be at Chickie's and Pete's! Crab fries and pizza is my treat... not "extra" roast beef and sweet potatoes, which I eat at least once a week! I didn't want crappy danish either... I brought a fruit bowl and whip cream, but instead of a THANK YOU (from the same person), I am "obsessed". I was never a sweet tooth guy anyways. If I ate cakes and crap, it's because it was just there. So instead I placed a better alternative in my face... fuck her.
Nice vent...
On a cool note... my doctor's office looked at my chart the other day and told me when I was a sophomore in High School (1995), I weighed 187 lbs.
ali2
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Awe
Almost punched someone out this weekend for calling me obsessed. Sunday dinners at her parent's house every week and I was told that when I weigh out my food that I am obsessive. I've taken it "too far". This is someone themselves who is dealing with a weight struggle and has lost some weight on weight watchers, but never took it to the next level. Kinda lost weight but looks the same (thinner "fat version" of themselves, if that even makes sense)... at any rate, they don't understand why I can't let it go one day a week and just eat what I want. The funny thing here is... I do, but it won't be at Sunday dinners! I mean, its all countable and her dad has a scale to boot. If I am going to splurge during the week, it's going to be at Chickie's and Pete's! Crab fries and pizza is my treat... not "extra" roast beef and sweet potatoes, which I eat at least once a week! I didn't want crappy danish either... I brought a fruit bowl and whip cream, but instead of a THANK YOU (from the same person), I am "obsessed". I was never a sweet tooth guy anyways. If I ate cakes and crap, it's because it was just there. So instead I placed a better alternative in my face... fuck her.
Nice vent...
On a cool note... my doctor's office looked at my chart the other day and told me when I was a sophomore in High School (1995), I weighed 187 lbs.
Here are my thoughts on that...you used to be fat. Part of the reason you were is because you ate whatever you wanted, however much you wanted. To lose weight something had to change. You either have to eat better, eat less or a combination of the two.
I think that people are so messed up by the portions that are in the world today that they have no idea what a 'serving' of anything is. To properly learn something like that and to track what you are eating, you need to weigh your food, especially if it is something you are unfamiliar with. It is so much bullshit to tell you that you are obsessed b/c you started caring about yourself and taking steps to improve your body and your health. Portion contol is a total re-education IMO and the way you do that is by finding out the sizes of things. If there is some way that I am unaware of, that's fine but to me, if you want to eat the right portion of chicken breast (or whatever) you need to weigh it out. DUH.
By way of example, I have this container of monster mix in my house and it says that a serving is 3 TBS or 33g. Well, 3 TBS is more than 33g so unless I weigh that stuff out, I am eating more than the calories per serving on the label. There is a thread on here about that, one of the best ones I have seen.
People who do that to you are afraid. They are afraid because you had the courage to make good decisions for yourself and they can't, they are afraid b/c they wonder what that says about them and they are afraid (like I said before) that you have changed.
You are still the same person, just less of that person, in the best way possible.
If they can't deal with that - fuck em.
YUM!!! That sounds so good...
Darth Pooh
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Great post... unreal.
My response wasn't as eloquent as yours but I got my point across. I threw out numbers... I said there are seven days a week and usually 3 meals a day... 21 meals, but lets say 25 for posterity (and snacks, lol). If I overeat at just one meal, I've effectively ruined 4% of my goals, depending on how you look at this, I am not giving 100%. Why bother if your not giving a 100%? Why bothering half-assing your goal... at this point, why even set a goal? Why not just give up since you won't bother to do what you need to do properly to get to your goals?
She knew I was referring to her non-attempt to take her weightloss to the next level too... so she just shut her mouth. I've also gotten into arguments with this person about how the FLU shots from your doctor's office will actually cause you to get the flu after you've been injected. She believes this... whole heartedly. And she teachers her kids the wrong stuff too... she told them Pluto was a planet, there are nine planets according to her, and her kids think this too. She is full of mis-information...
ali2
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I don't know about eloquent, but thanks for the compliment...I completely agree with the why bother view, if I decide to treat myself I carefully plan that out and make sure I account for it with the remainer of my meals for the day or week, depending on what I ate (Easter involved pastries from Isgros, that was a whole week of accounting, hehe). I am not going to blow my plan just on a whim (this being said while I am struggling with this at this very moment) for some shit that someone else will feel better about if I just stuff it down my throat.
I did that sort of crap for YEARS and it got me nowhere except huge. With some people you can't win excpet by showing them up and proving them wrong.
You are doing that magnificently, dear.
Darth Pooh
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Why thank you... see, what i do now is guesstimate Chickie's and Pete's food because I like actually putting it into my daily plan. I figure when I eat there, it is about 1400 or so calories:
3-4 four slices of pizza (14 inch pie but super thin crust, so about 200-250 calories a slice) ~ 800-1000 calories. Split an order of crab fries (~250 calories) and half of a small roast beef sandwich (~250 more). This gets me usually to 1250 - 1500 cals, but I have NO clue, it's all a guesstimate (taken from other sources I have but can never really know). But if I can go to someones house and actually calculate, why wouldn't I?!?!!
ali2
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You are probably going to yell at me but I have never been to Chickie and Petes (eek) but it sounds yummy!
You are absolutely correct ~ if you have the option to know what you are eating, why would you no do that? It all comes down to other people's discomfort with what you are doing and their general inability to deal.
Some people you just can't help - the other day my mother looked at me and said, if you get a tummy tuck what are you going to do to make sure you don't gain all the weight back again?
Um...I don't know MAYBE THE SAME THING I DID TO LOSE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE????
You can't do anything about those people in your life except ignore them.
Much love and happy Monday to my virtual family! I've missed you guys over the weekend. It feels good to be back and seeing you.
On the subject of food and guesstimating, I went to a pizza bar last night, and pleasently suprised myself with how little pizza I actually ate. For some reason, I was craving salad yesterday and ate like a rabbit instead of a glutton. Which, might I add, isn't a bad thing given my food plan. I had some baked chicken without the skin as well. I always guesstimate a piece of pizza to be anywhere from 150 to 330 cals depending how large and what's on it. It's why I always pick the thin crust/less topping ones. That being said, I did a really good job yestereday. I was proud of myself. I probobly left eating less then 700 cals. All in all, it was a good dinner at the Pizza Ranch.
Also, Keith, I've got a question for you hon, it is better to use Cocoa Butter Creme or Cocoa Butter Lotion. I couldn't figure it out at the store yesterday. I was going to pick up some, but didn't know what kind to get. I suppose the ones advertising themselves for the use of stretch marks would probably be the most beneficial. Haha. Anyways, I wanted to get your opinion.
I hope you guys are doing awesome today! (((Big Hugs)))
On the subject of food and guesstimating, I went to a pizza bar last night, and pleasently suprised myself with how little pizza I actually ate. For some reason, I was craving salad yesterday and ate like a rabbit instead of a glutton. Which, might I add, isn't a bad thing given my food plan. I had some baked chicken without the skin as well. I always guesstimate a piece of pizza to be anywhere from 150 to 330 cals depending how large and what's on it. It's why I always pick the thin crust/less topping ones. That being said, I did a really good job yestereday. I was proud of myself. I probobly left eating less then 700 cals. All in all, it was a good dinner at the Pizza Ranch.
Also, Keith, I've got a question for you hon, it is better to use Cocoa Butter Creme or Cocoa Butter Lotion. I couldn't figure it out at the store yesterday. I was going to pick up some, but didn't know what kind to get. I suppose the ones advertising themselves for the use of stretch marks would probably be the most beneficial. Haha. Anyways, I wanted to get your opinion.
I hope you guys are doing awesome today! (((Big Hugs)))
ali2
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Hey!!!
Missed you too ~ congrats on the pizza bar success...I was whining lately about my craving chocolate and other things bad for you...I am glad to see you resisted.
Have you ever had tomato pie? It is basically thiin crust pizza w/o cheese, only a little garlic and parmeasean sprinkled on top...so yummy and less cals than regular pizza.
I don't know about the creme v lotion but logic tells me that the creme may be better as it is thicker...who knows...if we can ever dig up Keith (shame on him for actually working, hehe) he'll probably have the answer...he is smart like that