because i'm worth it!! (aren't we all??!)

Hol crap!!! I miss a few days in here and damn!!! I walked in here to check things out and now 'm afraid I have to leave to take care of something...:leaving:
:smilielol5: No seriously, I love the attitude in here!

Painted on clothing? Google key west fantasy fest (not at work :D), it happens in the U.S. also, but only in special places, we're pretty prudish here despite our pretenses to the contrary.

Sorry hun, George Clooney doesn't do it for me, even if I did go over to the dark side. Hugh Jackman would be more my speed :D

Ugh, wait, what did I say?

Eva Mendes? Yup, can we share? I'm pretty sure my wife would flip for her too!!! (BTW, my wife loves pink too)

Anyway, I have a self imposed deadline to lose at least a chunk of the weight I've thrown on and tone up some. In December my wife and I are going to spend a week in Jamaica at a resort that has a VERY relaxed clothing policy

So I am trying to get into something resembling publicly acceptable shape :sifone:
 
Hol crap!!! I miss a few days in here and damn!!! I walked in here to check things out and now 'm afraid I have to leave to take care of something...:leaving:
:smilielol5: No seriously, I love the attitude in here!

Painted on clothing? Google key west fantasy fest (not at work :D), it happens in the U.S. also, but only in special places, we're pretty prudish here despite our pretenses to the contrary.

Sorry hun, George Clooney doesn't do it for me, even if I did go over to the dark side. Hugh Jackman would be more my speed :D

Ugh, wait, what did I say?

Eva Mendes? Yup, can we share? I'm pretty sure my wife would flip for her too!!! (BTW, my wife loves pink too)

Anyway, I have a self imposed deadline to lose at least a chunk of the weight I've thrown on and tone up some. In December my wife and I are going to spend a week in Jamaica at a resort that has a VERY relaxed clothing policy

So I am trying to get into something resembling publicly acceptable shape :sifone:



what like a swinging resort??? you saucy thing you..........;)

i'm a little flirty & a bit of a saucy minx myself...but no i don't share!!! i'm a one man woman baby!!! well at least when i'm not divorcing or dumping them that is...poor lambs...

yrs after i divorced my 1st hubbie he told me (as a way of trying to charm my knickers off i think.........hmmmmm didn't work...but god loves a tryer or so as they say...) that i was the only woman he'd ever been faithful to (gee thanks!!) b/c he could just about handle me never mind another woman too when we were together (i assume he meant both in & out of the bedroom LOL...as we had quite a tempestuous r/ship...drama drama...) another ex said he could just about keep up with me sexually...so he would never have had the energy to cheat...btw can i just say for the record he meant b/c of how much i liked/wanted sex...not b/c i was into weird sex games or chained him to the bed or anything...i swear!!! in fact...quite traditional when it comes to sex really...ideally just me...sexy undies...one very naked man...a big bed...lots of candles/massage oils....oh & warm hands ;) & if hes been a very very good boy...a little strip tease or maybe even a lapdance for his eyes only :newangel:

notice my exes said they were either emotionally or sexually drained...as reasons for not cheating!! LOL... but neither said oh i just loved you so much i could NEVER have even imagined getting busy with anyone other than you...MEN??!! btw if asked THAT is the answer us women would really like to hear!!!

i've been single for some time now so i've got the bar set pretty high re my next l/term r/ship...basically i want to be totally & absolutely adored...no less will do...like my dairy title says...i'm worth it!! :D (they also have to be able to handle my serial wife phase & fully accept & love finn as he is...& have the ability to laugh my knickers off!!) does he exist?? i think so......(well i would tell myself that wouldn't i???!) if not i'll stay single (& VERY horny!!!) as i've been in enough r/ships (& marriages...) that just didn't feel quite right...as marilyn monroe said....

It's better to be unhappy alone than unhappy with someone - so far.

not that i'm unhappy...so i'd change 'unhappy' to lonely...yeah i'd rather feel a little bit lonely sometimes than feel lonely with somebody...which is one of the worse feelings in any r/ship...when you feel like they don't really 'get you' or that you're just not as connected as you thought you were...or maybe its just me...wanting that movie love again!!!

reminds me of that time in goa again with an ex...thinking it was such a perfect moment...beautiful sunset on a beach etc...or rather it would be if only i was with someone else???!! weird...especially knowing that he had no idea how i was feeling...to him it really was THAT perfect moment.....
 
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Sounds like you have the bar set pretty high, and BTW, it also sounds like the rewards to the qualified applicant would be equally as high as the bar has been set, if not higher!

BTW, yeah, some of us men types actually get that you know... the whole love part. Even those of us that have unusual relationships. Actually, we probably understand it more than others do.
 
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are you from the uk?? or my male Doppelgänger?? :)
as the way you say some things is exactly how i do.....very strange....

anyhoo....

do you mean unusual r/ships as in open/swinging???

so re your take on love...do you mean like the 'rules' swingers have that i mentioned in a post recently...eg only when both together so its not really cheating or being unfaithful as both aware of it??

don't really buy that...don't get me wrong i'm no prude...far from it...but to me loves love you don't fuck about with that (esp NOT literally LOL) of course i know you can have sex without love...great sex even but call me old fashioned or just a die hard romantic...but if you truly loved someone you wouldn't want to see them get fucked by someone else would you??? i know i'm sure A LOT of men would think they would & that it'd be really fuckin horny...in fantasy...but in reality if they were in love with their wife/GF it would really wreck their head. but still live & let live/each to their own blahblahblah...as long as its something that both partners want to do i suppose.

when i did the madame thing...there were one or two women who were married....whose husbands knew & approved of what they were doing (mortgage to pay etc) & i know its totally hypocritical of me but i never got that...AT ALL...really couldn't understand how a man would be ok with his wife getting fucked every which way by other men...yes i know men can compartmentalise things probably far more than women can...so i know in their heads they were able to separate their love for their wives & even their own sex lives from it all...but i just found the whole thing very icky...

plus in my experience someone always gets hurt eventually...either one partner wants to stop the fucking other ppl part of their r/ship or else one partner falls for one of the ppl they were meant to be 'just' fucking...


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how funny would it be if you said no i didn't mean that at all...& i've just prattled on & on (as usual hahaha...).........whatever ;)

anyway i'm done for the day now so at least i can't give anyone else any offence!!!
 
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Lets assume for the sake of argument that a couple has had a long term relationship (perhaps even 20 years or longer). Said couple thinks the sun rises and sets on each other and truly has always had a top notch relationship in every respect.
In the bedroom, part of the phenomenal sex that they have involves sharing fantasies with each other, whether they involve other people, multiple people, people of the same sex... whatever. This sharing always adds to and heightens the experience. Where does the potential course of the conversation go?

The question then is, do you try it? Many people will say no, some will say yes. Some who say yes, try it and decide that they can't do it. Some do it to "fix" things in the relationship (it won't), others, and by this I mean the ones who can truly let themselves go and have an incredible level of trust in their partners, find it to be an enhancing experience.

The latter group, are people who can set aside the concept of jealousy, and instead embrace the idea that being with their life's love, whilst that person is in the throes of climax (brought on by another person), and staring into their eyes with a combination of love, lust (and intimacy), can be an amazing experience. This group also realizes that there are fantasies (bisexuality for ex.), that will never be experienced within the confines of the traditional, sexually exclusive heterosexual relationship. What better way to explore such fantasies than with the comforting, loving and intimately involved presence of your true love beside you?

Regarding your comment about men compartmentalizing? In my (limited though it may be), experience, the men go into it thinking this way, but in the end, it is the women who generally seem to be able to be completely in the moment better than the men. In an earlier post, or pehaps message, I think I stated that men are the stronger sex only in their own minds? We certainly are not in the bedroom, no matter how much we would like to believe we are. Some of us might be pretty good, but ultimately if it were a contest... we'd lose... thankfully it isn't. Or at least it shouldn't be.

There is so much that could be said, however, If I keep going I would start feeling like a thread hijacker... It is however a terrific discussion, thank you!

What I will leave saying is this; After nearly 22 years of marriage, I hold my wife's hand when we walk, we suddenly stop in the grocery store and kiss for no apparent reason, we often sit watching tv, and just caress each other. We do this more now, than we did 10 years ago. What has changed? Nothing for the worse, that's for sure...
 
WOW....for once even i'm speechless...

well almost...........:)

obviously it works for you both...but still i can't shake the feeling of...no way hose......

to me loving somebody is not about being jealous or wanting them all for yourself in a controlling way...its about ppl wanting to just be with each other...end of & yes both sharing the thought that seeing each other getting fucked by somebody else would turn their stomach...not turn them on!!!

see maybe its me...very traditional at heart despite serial wife/GF thing/running escort agencies/setting up sex chat lines (yrs ago LOL) i want the man in my life to want me...all of me including sexually not anyone else. a little flirtings fine (i do it...A LOT!!) but not so much that you'd hurt/embarrass your partner. basically i wouldn't do anything i wouldn't my man to do....fucking anyone else...definitely tops the 'list'....

its not about not being that into sex either...love it!!! but to me sex with someone you love is about being intimate...you can have hot sex with strangers till the cows comes home...but its not intimacy. of course you'll say see we agree...its 'just sex' thats how we keep our r/ship removed from it!! :D see i know how you think about it...its just not for me. i hope for your sake it continues to work out for you...but there are risks...a friend of a friend was devastated when his wife left him for someone they met together at a sex party...the man left his wife too...i think their 'experiments' had started fueled by party drugs...now hes alone (but doing the coke to even more excess now...) & his ex mrs & her new man are an exclusive pair...they don't swing. seems she now says she only did it to please her hubbie etc.

i've had some pretty wild times of my own...with the men in my life...i do like to keep things fresh & spicy in a r/ship...i remember turning up to one of my exes offices when he was working late...naked but for a black trench coat & heels...oooooh i liked that one!! greeting hubbie at the door with nothing but a smile...a 50's style pinny (not an apron...but the little round the waist type like rachel in friends!!) & heels with a drink in one hand for him...& a can of whipped cream in the other...sex in meadows/sex in the snow/sex in a forest/sex on a beach...you get the picture...Monogamous doesn't have to mean Monotonous...that could be a slogan...maybe i'll start a saucy sex class for longtime married folks....hahaha...so says the black widow...........

i liked to play the good little wifelet sometimes....

as my fave cup says on it...

she knew how to please a man...
but most days she chose not to..............:newangel:





luckily despite man drought...i am not frustrated sexually................
i have a rabbit...pink of course........
 
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You are absolutely right! Monogamous was never monotonous! Lots of what you describe reflects where we have always been regarding sex. This just represented something else to try, and we've enjoyed it so far. As I stated before, we didn't do this to 'fix" something that was broken, believe me, it wasn't even bent (a bit twisted perhaps at times...), mostly pretty much stands out nice and straight in fact.:sifone:

Listen, The discussion turned this way and I apologize if we've taken up too much of your diary with all of this, but I really like the way you responded. Having different opinions and discussing them in a fun, thought provoking way is all good stuff. I can see that we obviously have many points that we actually agree on, and a couple of obvious points we don't, lol.

I'm actually sitting here with a grin as I've been reading and writing here. I hope you've enjoyed the discussion as much as I have!

BTW, you must have this opinion of me now, I don't think we've covered weight loss, or fitness or any other type of actual related issue here. I'm actually a pretty good guy and fairly supportive there too!
 
:) don't be daft!!! what are you apologising for???

my posts even in my weightloss diary are more often than not...NOT about weight loss directly...

that we're both interested in those matters is a given...after all its the reason we're on this site...

but we're both grown ups & i'm sure like me you like to discuss anything & everything...or as my estranged mother used to say...i just love the sound of my own voice :smilielol5::smilielol5:

anyway it'd bore the knickers off me just talking about weight loss stuff etc
i prefer to distract my brain from obsessing about that...

which reminds me...i had some more things put on urbandictionary.com.!!


can't believe this not on already...i say it all the time LOL


just had to put the opposite too!!


i was obviously on a knickers theme!! LOL

its just a daft saying i say but couldn't think of any egs of how to use it...as you can tell!!

i googled it but nothing came up at all...does that mean i invented it?? hahaha....maybe :)

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whats twisted??? you or your penis????
 
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obviously he hasn't read your diary too much if he is apologizing, lol. how are you love, its been a while, becaus ei am a lazy bum. how are things going for you. you are soon approaching your halfway point as i am i need to lose 12 more and i'll be halfway to my current goal. and that is exciting. i just wanted to come in here and give you a good word or two and inform you that i do think about you and read, just didn't want to jump in. its always fun reading the view and opinions of others.
 
obviously he hasn't read your diary too much if he is apologizing, lol. how are you love, its been a while, becaus ei am a lazy bum. how are things going for you. you are soon approaching your halfway point as i am i need to lose 12 more and i'll be halfway to my current goal. and that is exciting. i just wanted to come in here and give you a good word or two and inform you that i do think about you and read, just didn't want to jump in. its always fun reading the view and opinions of others.


you just feel free to jump in any old time!!!

so re the recent discussion on here....were do you stand on the issue kureransu???

to swing or not to swing??? that is the question...

don't be shy you can tell me...i won't tell i swear :D

ps as ever you are doing super with your weightloss/workouts...
i do read youir diary too & post on it occasionally...but i'm not sure whether you notice...what with all your workout fans following your progress on there too!!! plus i tend to pop in to just put a bit of pink on it...i'm sure the serious workoutees who post on it think who is that mad woman??? hahaha.........

btw did you ever hear from schwa???
 
i really don't have an opinion. i've been single all but 1.5 years of my life, so i can't say much. but if both people want it, i can't see the harm in that. i guess. i don't know what kinda of residual complications can come from it later on, but it really depends on the relationship of the couple. and no i've yet to hear anything from schwa, i hope all is well for him.

i know you stop and read, and see you post in there really makes my day, even if it is just to throw a little pink in there :) keep doing what you are doing. you are always welcome in my thread
 
oh you're far more diplomatic about it than me!!!

its just the only sexed up little missy i want to be kissing my guy on the mouth (or anywhere else for that matter....) is me!!!

of course due to my ongoing man/sex drought the guy in question is only actually in my head...for now...fingers & toes crossed!!!!!

if i fantasise/dream enough...HE WILL COME..............




into my life i mean...............tut tut tut :)


i watched a streetcar named desire last night...ahhhhhhhh poor 'old' looney blanche!!! (played by the ever gorg vivien leigh...very brave of her to play such a role as she suffered with mental health problems herself)

to the brutish but terribly handsome stan (brando) she says...

I don't want realism. I want magic!
oh i hear ya sister!!! me too.............LOL
 
oh you're far more diplomatic about it than me!!!

its just the only sexed up little missy i want to be kissing my guy on the mouth (or anywhere else for that matter....) is me!!!

But what if it was Eva, and she wanted to kiss you too (in any of the possible locations one's mind may wander to)???

Just playing devil's advocate is all luv!

And how are you this fine day, in the lusty month of May?
 
if i was single...& sexy eva wanted ever so desperately to get in my knickers (i mean who could blame her??? never mind ignorance...self delusion is the true bliss LOL) hmmmmm if i was tipsy enough...yeah sure i'd give it a whirl ;)

i mean she could do anything she wants with me (ooooooh except scary huge vibrators!!! noooooo!!! my pink rabbit looks very cute & pink with little ball thingys in that look like sweeties....but even thats scary huge to me right now...so while its fun to play with...i won't put it all the way shall we say?? like i've said before bit scared now...after 12 mths they do say you're re-virginised..........& i've been single & man sex free longer than that....so oooooh no makes my eyes water just thinking about it...i'll wait for one of those other phallic shaped thingys that come attached to a man so i hear!!)

but would i/could i do things to her??? i really don't think so....i mean i covet her clothes & bags (we have a few the same...jimmy choo...such twins...in nipples & bags :)) & i'm sure i'd quite like hers sexy undies too just not sure i'd want to get in them...after all i know whats there...being a girl & all...does that make me a selfish lesbian or a part-time bisexual???! anyhoo............

yes feeling good today...had a couple of clients come by my house today (no NOT that kind...the escort/madame thing long over love :D) i'm a stylist p/t...so yes i do get to see lots of girlies in their underwear...but unlike trinny & susannah i DO NOT squeeze their tits!!! (you'll have to be from the UK to get that) summer weddings on the horizon...so my fave time of yr...as i do like to shop!!! whether its for me or not...plus i'm a natural busybody & luckily have no qualms about telling ppl what suits them & what doesn't...its that sound of my own voice thing again....hahaha.....but couldn't do styling otherwise so in this instance my general gabbiness & irreverent nature actually helps A LOT!!! i find you can get away with saying almost anything with a joke & a smile.....& as i have mainly return/word of mouth clients no ones took offence...YET!!!

i have had several male clients too...image overhauls etc.....but also at the beginning i did get a few calls from men wanting to dress up like girls.....now i'm very much a live & let live/each to their own kinda gal...but when it became obvious that it wasn't just my taking them shopping that they wanted but for me to actually see them in their new outfit...in private & in their mind convince themselves no doubt that i found it a turn on (i didn't...though open minded...i like men to look like men & want to be the only one wearing the dresses in my r/ships) i stopped doing the man to woman thing...if a gay man wanted help to find the right look/dress thats fine i'd do it (but who thinks thats ever going to happen??!) but for me seeing a man in a dress getting aroused b/c he thinks i fancy him...is not something i EVER want to see again...........
 
lifes not only about eva's blummin nipples....so....

heres to being happy in all other parts of our lives too...not just when horizontal :)


the 4 secrets of happiness....

gratitude
having a sense of wonder, thankfulness & appreciation of life thats much more than an autopilot 'thanks'...

zest for life/vitality
the ability to throw yourself, body & soul into whatever you are doing & approach it with infectious enthusiasm...

hope
having faith in the future & planning & working in order to achieve it...

love
most important of all is the ability to love & be loved...
 
smile!!

charlie chaplin actually composed the music for smile for modern times in 1936...sounds wonderful even without the lyrics which were added later...irony is the music is so beautiful it makes me want to cry every time i hear it!! no idea why!! that said watching it with this clip from the movie you can't fail to smile...



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the lyrics...incase you want to sing along!!

Smile though your heart is aching
Smile even though it's breaking
When there are clouds in the sky, you'll get by
If you smile through your fear and sorrow
Smile and maybe tomorrow
You'll see the sun come shining through for you

Light up your face with gladness
Hide every trace of sadness
Although a tear may be ever so near
That's the time you must keep on trying
Smile, what's the use of crying?
You'll find that life is still worthwhile
If you just smile

That's the time you must keep on trying
Smile, what's the use of crying?
You'll find that life is still worthwhile
If you just smile
 
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moonriver.......

i must be feeling quite sentimental b/c i felt like listening to this too!! but like Big says its not corny...its classic :cool:


love this song...love BIG & love NYC baby!!! i've wanted to go back there ever since i went there about 7 yrs ago...

goes without saying love SATC too!! sounds silly to say out loud now...but when this series ended i felt really sad...i was still living in yorkshire...away from friends...after going through my third (& worst) divorce...& finn had only just been diagnosed the yr before...it makes me feel sad all over again just thinking back to that time in my life...NOT GOOD...in fact at the beginning of this clip when carrie tells her friends how lonely she feels i remember how that made me cry A LOT...when i watched it for the first time...that bit still makes me get a little lump in my throat esp when you hear her voice almost cracking with emotion...

BUT i'm not in THAT place any longer :hurray::hurray: back home in liverpool...so i see friends & my sister a lot more ...& finn has come on so much since then too...& i've also started to lose the weight that i put on during that time too....which means it won't be long before i feel ready (hopefully) to let a man back in my life....putting an end (finally!!) to my man/sex drought too!!! yay!! or rather thank fuck for that.........;)

the only fly in the ointment (i must be old...i always say such old sayings my nan would have said!! LOL) is that my VVBF moved down south this time last yr...but i suppose thats just life i guess...the only thing you can truly count on in this life is....CHANGE...everything changes...ebb & flow...

but yeah back then the girls in SATC provided me with a much needed girlie fix!! my hit of Oxytocin!! :) the female horome for reproduction/bonding etc has been found to increase in women following girlie bonding sessions...no NOT in girl on girl porn...........LOL but when you just spend time with your GF's...talking & laughing together...i know i always feel better after a phone call with my BF & even more so after a girlie lunch together...so the glow i feel is not (only) from the glasses of wine i drink but from just being with my GF's!!!

if like me back then...you're going through a bit of a friend drought...buy SATC on DVD!! like i did!! seriously its not just about shoes...men or even sex (despite the title) its about the strength & endurance of friendships...real, flawed, wonderful r/ships between women...but yes the fashion & men don't hurt either :D
 
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