Ann Jones Weight Loss Diary

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DEATH BY PROTEIN

Every day, for the past four years, at least one person has
written to me and asked one of two questions:

"If I don't drink milk or eat meat, how will I satisfy my
protein needs?"

"If I don't drink milk, won't my bones break?"

American women have been consuming an average of two pounds
of milk per day for their entire lives, yet thirty million
American women have osteoporosis. Drinking milk does not
prevent bone loss. Bone loss is accelerated by ingesting too
much protein, and milk has been called "liquid meat." Heart
disease remains our number one killer.

Hospitals are filled with Americans who have eaten too much
dietary animal protein. It is nearly impossible to live in
America and not satisfy your protein needs.

AMERICANS EAT TOO MUCH PROTEIN

"The average man in the US eats 175% more protein than the
recommended daily allowance and the average woman eats 144%
more."

Surgeon General's Report on Nutrition and Health, 1988

OSTEOPOROSIS IS CAUSED BY EATING TOO MUCH PROTEIN

"Osteoporosis is caused by a number of things, one of the
most important being too much dietary protein."

Science 1986;233(4763)

"Countries with the highest rates of osteoporosis, such as
the United States, England, and Sweden, consume the most
milk. China and Japan, where people eat much less protein
and dairy food, have low rates of osteoporosis."

Nutrition Action Healthletter, June, 1993

"Dietary protein increases production of acid in the blood
which can be neutralized by calcium mobilized from the
skeleton."

American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 1995; 61 (4)

"Even when eating 1,400 mg of calcium daily, one can lose up
to 4% of his or her bone mass each year while consuming a
high-protein diet."

American Journal of Clinical Nutrition 1979;32(4)

"Increasing one's protein intake by 100% may cause calcium
loss to double."

Journal of Nutrition, 1981; 111 (3)

"Animal food-groups were directly correlated to mortality
from coronary heart disease, defined as sudden coronary
death or fatal myocardial infarction and vegetable food-
groups (except potatoes) as well as fish and alcohol were
inversely correlated with CHD mortality. Univariate analysis
showed significant positive correlation coefficients for
butter (R = 0.887), meat (R = 0.645), pastries (R = 0.752),
and milk (R = 0.600) consumption, and significant negative
correlation coefficients for legumes (R = -0.822), oils (R =
-0.571), and alcohol (R = -0.609) consumption. Combined
vegetable foods (excluding alcohol) were inversely
correlated (R = -0.519), whereas combined animal foods
(excluding fish) were directly correlated (R = 0.798) with
coronary heart disease death rates."

European Journal of Epidemiology, 1999 Jul, 15:6, 507-15
 
So, if you know so much that you can come down on everyone else trying to be helpful, then why are you 126lb overweight ?

This suggests that clearly you have no clue what a 'normal' diet is despite reading things. However, based apon your extremely judgemental, negative, and immature behaviour, I dont understan why you even bothered to come here. You are not here for 'friends' nor 'help' or even any sort of companionship.

You seem to have come here purely too try and lord how much 'better' you are, and how much more you know. We generally point less knowledgeable people into a decent diet, one that is more than 1200 calories a day. We have no idea what their knowledge is or background. If you think you know more, that's fine, but don't attack people and act like a spoilt baby because we we're being helpful.

If you continue the rude and nasty behaviour you will not be welcome on the forums. We like this to be a helpful, friendly place as much as possible. We encourage each other and if we think somebody is wrong we will suggest so, in a nice manor. If they disagree, they do so in the same nice friendly way.

Please keep in mind that this is not the 3rd grade. Thanks
 
PROTEIN: How Much Is Too Much

When buying protein bars there are certain things you should look at such as quantity of: protein, calories, fat, sodium, carbohydrates, cholesterol and many others. The amount of protein you are looking to have in your diet depends on your training goals, gender and age.
If you know your caloric intake you can use the following percentages to see how much protein you require:

Sedentary people should consume 10-15% protein, 55-60% carbohydrates and 25-30% fats.
Endurance athletes need a diet consisting of 15% protein, 55-60% carbohydrates, 25-30% fats because carbohydrates will be their main source of energy.
Weightlifters require an intake of 40% protein, 30% carbohydrates and 30% fats because the extra protein will help them rebuild their muscles.

If you are not one to calculate by percentage, and would like something more simple, you can also calculate the amount of protein you need based on your body mass.
Sedentary people require approximately 0.73 grams of protein per kilogram of body mass per day. Active endurance athlete require approximately 1.2-1.4 grams of protein for each kg of body mass. Weightlifters need 1.6-1.7 grams of protein per kg of body mass.

Lack of protein may cause growth failure, loss of muscle mass, decreased immunity, weakening of the heart and respiratory system and even death. On the other hand getting too much protein can cause kidney disease, cancer and osteoporosis.
 
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Maintenance (Protein)

The U.S. Department of Agriculture's recommended daily intake of protein is 0.4g per pound of ideal body weight. To calculate this, take your ideal body weight (determined by height and body type), divide it in half and subtract 10. For example, if your ideal body weight is 180 pounds, you should consume about 80g of protein per day. At 120 pounds, you should consume 50g of protein per day. Chances are, if you aren't a vegetarian and eat a wide variety of foods, you regularly exceed this daily intake level. However, the figure should be regarded as a rough estimate: Elderly people and lactating women will need a bit more protein.

Physical Activity

Your level of physical activity will also have an impact on your nutritional needs. Athletes and bodybuilders intentionally exceed the daily recommended allowance of protein by significant amounts. Someone trying to put on muscle can eat 1 to 1.5g of protein per pound--two to three times the recommended amount. A bodybuilder who weighs 160 pounds can consume 160 to 240g of protein per day. No wonder body builders drink high protein drinks to supplement their intake. Divided over six meals, this is still 26 to 40g per meal--and many bodybuilders, of course, weigh more than 160 pounds.
 
wishes said:
So, if you know so much that you can come down on everyone else trying to be helpful, then why are you 126lb overweight ?

This suggests that clearly you have no clue what a 'normal' diet is despite reading things. However, based apon your extremely judgemental, negative, and immature behaviour, I dont understan why you even bothered to come here. You are not here for 'friends' nor 'help' or even any sort of companionship.

You seem to have come here purely too try and lord how much 'better' you are, and how much more you know. We generally point less knowledgeable people into a decent diet, one that is more than 1200 calories a day. We have no idea what their knowledge is or background. If you think you know more, that's fine, but don't attack people and act like a spoilt baby because we we're being helpful.

If you continue the rude and nasty behaviour you will not be welcome on the forums. We like this to be a helpful, friendly place as much as possible. We encourage each other and if we think somebody is wrong we will suggest so, in a nice manor. If they disagree, they do so in the same nice friendly way.

Please keep in mind that this is not the 3rd grade. Thanks
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Yes, Doctor.
 
Center For Disease Control and Prevention, CDC
Your Online Source For Creditable Health Information



•Save your money and don't buy the protein supplements. If you're healthy, you probably get all the protein you need from your diet.
To help you make lower-fat protein choices —

•Choose meats that are leaner cuts and trim away any fat you can see. For chicken and turkey, remove the skin to reduce fat.

•Substitute pinto or black beans for meat in chili and tacos.

•Choose low-fat or fat-free milk and yogurt.

•Choose low-fat or fat-free cheese.

•Choose egg whites or pasteurized egg white products.
 
This user has been banned for 7 days. Please refrain from posting any replies. I would rather she come back in 7 days, perhaps a little less angry, and we can all co-exist together
 
I love my mommy so, much, she's so, proud of me that I'm on a weight loss program. Luckily, I have great insurance through my job.
 
Heyy, how have you been getting on? It's a shame your diary has so much anger and fighting in it. I hope everyone has calmed down and you can progress with your diet now. Good luck
 
I hope your journey has been going well, Ann!

Sounds like you're doing a lot of great research. How much weight have you lost so far?
 
Korrie said:
One of my favorite sayings :)
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Hey, I'm sorry to tell you and I'm trying to be as nice as I can about it. And no offense but I just don't like you, the way you like me. We are over. For good. Seriously, can you please just leave me alone. Don't do anything crazy. I just don't feel a connection.
 
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"Hey, I'm sorry to tell you and I'm trying to be as nice as I can about it. And no offense but I just don't like you, the way you like me. We are over. For good. Seriously, can you please just leave me alone. Don't do anything crazy. I just don't feel a connection."


what the hell??? That made no sense whatsoever.
 
2Skinny said:
This diary writer was banned for seven days and can not be taken seriously.
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I'm not taking you seriously either 2Skinny. Here's a message 2Skinny sent via PM. She bad mouths people behind their backs. At least if I have something to say, I'll say it to your face. Lili you need not post on my thread again and I won't post in yours. I have not ever done anything to you. You made me think Jericho was a really bad guy and moderators inferior. It seems you're 2Faced & good at stirring up trouble. Good Bye.


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Hi Ann;

If you ignore Cerad and just continue posting, he'll go away. I don't know why the moderators don't ask him to stop taking that tone with people in their own diaries. In fact, if I were you, I'd tell him to stay the hell out of your diary. It's one thing to politely point out that calories seem too low, but quite another to say I'm buying popcorn and suggest others will be coming in to harass you. Poor form.

I'd like to welcome you to WLF. I was concerned when I saw your goal to lose 16 pounds/month. Even with a combo of eating healthy and exercise, it's usually 1-2 pounds per week that we lose, or five pounds per month. I know you feel really excited about your new life and you have enough commitment to pull it off right now ... once you've done it for a while, you'll struggle. I read that we need to add a zero behind our weight to see the amount of calories we need just to maintain, so for 225 = 2250/day. They then suggest to subtract 500 calories = 1750/day. As you lose weight, you can reduce accordingly. Then if we expend about 500 calories worth of exercise per day that's a total of 1,000 calorie deficit per day. X 7 = 7,000 calories / week. To lose one pound, we need to be in a deficit of 3500 calories/week. So it's a huge commitment to get to that 7,000 cal deficit/week.

Most of us learn from being at this for years, the best of intentions can get foiled because we have deeper issues with food and lifestyle. There are lots of supportive people on here and Cerad and Jericho are really the only negative ones I've seen here. They love to argue and that's not what this site if for. I've been here since 2006 and I've seen it change since we lost two excellent moderators.

Well, all that to say ... is I want to wish you the very best of luck in your eating plan and journey!! See you on the boards.
Lili
 
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