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this took me about two :confused:months or so a drop of about 10 kilos, however after my 2 month progress it only took me 1 month to ruin it and another month to go above of my starting weight. i began at 80 kilos dropped down to 70 and now back up to 90 kilos...

i was so close at 9% bf, however that last bit would not come off of my lower abs, i got sick for 2 weeks and abandoned my routine and diet for the next 2 months.

my concern is that my fat cells shrink and expand very quickly. due to this fact will i ever acheive my target goal weight. i did some research and found that your fat cells will always be there, does this mean the ones on my lower stomach will never go away for that six pac to show.

the real reason i want those fat cells gone is that i am hoping, with exersize, and no fat, my skin will shrink back especially on my stomach.. i know i look real skinny and like i dont have that problem , but trust me if i let gravity do its part.. it really shows the excess skin... therefore the only way i heard u can shrink your skin is to completely rid the body of fat attached to the skin
 

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this took me about two :confused:months or so a drop of about 10 kilos, however after my 2 month progress it only took me 1 month to ruin it and another month to go above of my starting weight. i began at 80 kilos dropped down to 70 and now back up to 90 kilos...

i was so close at 9% bf, however that last bit would not come off of my lower abs, i got sick for 2 weeks and abandoned my routine and diet for the next 2 months.

my concern is that my fat cells shrink and expand very quickly. due to this fact will i ever acheive my target goal weight. i did some research and found that your fat cells will always be there, does this mean the ones on my lower stomach will never go away for that six pac to show.

the real reason i want those fat cells gone is that i am hoping, with exersize, and not fat, my skin will shrink back especially on my stomach :/

Mayb!..........wazzzzzzzzzzzz up!

Long time since your last post.

Without getting into a long post, the answer is quite simply, yes, you can reduce your body fat to the goal point you want; however, the body needs a certain fat amount on the body to remain healthy.

9% BF or even lower is attainable, but it "usually" will take a little different tweaks in diet and training "for some" to attain it.

The lower body fat gets, it can get harder to come off, and the body "can" resist your efforts more than before.

What you do is use education with what you know about your personal particulars concerning calories, and manipulate these calories, along with nutrients (if necessary), and manipulate fitness activities.

To get what I am after;

I must be the master.

I am not afraid of disaster;

I am the master drafter hereafter.

Hear me growl with laughter thereafter.

Can you dig that?! Dig it in deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep! :)


1. What diet approach have you been using in recent weeks? Be detailed about it; giving more information than needed is far better than not giving enough. Screw-over kill.......ROCK IT! Not doing enough puts the screws in the butt.

2. What type of training have you been doing? Be detailed give more information than we need is far better than not giving enough, IMO. Screw-over kill.......ROCK IT! Not doing enough puts the screws in the butt.


It was good to hear from you, Mayb!

Answer my questions!

Best wishes,

Chillen
 
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heya chillen,
ya long time :p , good to hear from u

well i train twice a day for maybe 2-4 hours a day... i weight lift around 1-2pm working out a major muscle group each day alternating b/w upper and lower body, and then i do muai thai kboxing 6-8 ... and then i'd do some more cardio abt 20min if im not yet fatigued.
i was able to do this near the end of my goal when i was more fit.

however now that ive gained 15 kilos of laziness, ill have to start over.
my diet is mass protein, healthy fats, and some carbs. i think my diet is right except for the part where after two months of dieting i "fall off the wagon" --ill have oatmeal+ protein shake + chicken breasts + turkey+ wheat bread+ brown rice+ yams+ veggies + tons of wate+ nuts --i make sure i atleast match the amount of protien to my lbs b4 the night is over + 40g-80grams carbs /day + some healthy fat like a handful of nuts or salmon.

near the end i barely had any fat on me, but the problem is that last bit of stubborn fat, yes im willing to work harder and diet leaner to get it off.. but i dont know its like it wont come off..the fat cells on my lower stomach are too stubborn and unless they are gone my skin (my main goal) wont shrink back.. i just feel i need proof, someone who was able to get the skin around there stomach to snap back, ive researched but havnt found any1 who was able to do it without surgery :S .. i feel i need proof that it can be done?

question: do you reccomend fasted cardio? i dont want to lose lean mass tho :p
 
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Hey, Mo--Ya know, I really don't think that you have "loose" skin around your waist...if you saw what loose skin looks like I think you might agree with me. In the picture you have posted, you have a little bit of love handles, but nothing extreme. If you want to lower your body fat, by all means go for it...but I think when you say you're trying to get rid of "loose" skin, you really don't have that problem!

Anyone disagree with me??
 
i know its not showing in that pic is meant to make me look good :p

but i promise u if i lay on my stomach, skin hangs a lot not a little.. just look at the b4 pics on page 1 are more clear..its like the skin is staying because it expects me to put that weight back on soon as i start filling those fat cells!
 
heya chillen,
ya long time :p , good to hear from u

well i train twice a day for maybe 2-4 hours a day... i weight lift around 1-2pm working out a major muscle group each day alternating b/w upper and lower body, and then i do muai thai kboxing 6-8 ... and then i'd do some more cardio abt 20min if im not yet fatigued.
i was able to do this near the end of my goal when i was more fit.

however now that ive gained 15 kilos of laziness, ill have to start over.
my diet is mass protein, healthy fats, and some carbs. i think my diet is right except for the part where after two months of dieting i "fall off the wagon" --ill have oatmeal+ protein shake + chicken breasts + turkey+ wheat bread+ brown rice+ yams+ veggies + tons of wate+ nuts --i make sure i atleast match the amount of protien to my lbs b4 the night is over + 40g-80grams carbs /day + some healthy fat like a handful of nuts or salmon.

near the end i barely had any fat on me, but the problem is that last bit of stubborn fat, yes im willing to work harder and diet leaner to get it off.. but i dont know its like it wont come off..the fat cells on my lower stomach are too stubborn and unless they are gone my skin (my main goal) wont shrink back.. i just feel i need proof, someone who was able to get the skin around there stomach to snap back, ive researched but havnt found any1 who was able to do it without surgery :S .. i feel i need proof that it can be done?

question: do you reccomend fasted cardio? i dont want to lose lean mass tho :p

Okay, so no one "thinks" I am posting these to show myself-again, I am posting this to show some differences in the lower ab region per Mayb's post comment highlighted:

The first pic is 6 to 7 months into diet and training. Look at the lower ab region, there is A LOT of fat there, and there was a lot more prior to this pic. And, I have ONE primary reason to be concerned about the skin not retreating or reducing with the fat loss, and this is AGE--primarily.

I was 180lbs in this pic.

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In these pics , I am 154 lbs. This is 20+ pounds in difference. Per lb, muscle is much SMALLER in diameter than fat or one pound of muscle mass will appear smaller, than one pound of fat--though they weigh the same--remember that:

I lost the last bit on the lower ab area, while building the body at the same time, and my weight dropped......A LOT.

June112007afternoonwaterretentio-9.jpg


June112007Afternoonwaterretentio-10.jpg


152/154 in the above pics.

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And, as of July 21, 2008 at 161lbs (or about 7 pounds heavier):

July2108--justaretouchlastyear-1.jpg


As you can see the skin did snap back after nearly 15 years of holding an extra 30 pounds of fat (I wish I had my starting pic, but I do not).

And, soon, I will be posting a pic blitz in the COL of the entire body, that blows away all others.

This is my first post, of more to come.

You wanted some proof, so here is an old man (47 August 25th) and his skin snapped back, and so can yours.

You stay put in asking questions. Go on a question spree.......get the answers you want, figure yourself out, develop the FBW and diet that will work----for you.

I will be posting more in a little bit.


Best wishes,

Chillen
 
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haha ur abs look sick chillen, altho im not convinced sadly since u started out with a six pac in those pics and ended up with a 12 pac hehe... but thanks i appreciate it , always do

mo
 
haha ur abs look sick chillen, altho im not convinced sadly since u started out with a six pac in those pics and ended up with a 12 pac hehe... but thanks i appreciate it , always do

mo

Okay, Mayb. Let me speak some plain truth, in rather simple terms:

You are going to be "required" to convince yourself you can do this, or you are done, stick a fork in it. Its over.

You are in charge of the outcome. No question about it. No one will care "enough" more than you when you want something.

I have being extremely careful with my diet and fitness training for 2 years and about 10 months. What I have accomplished didn't come over night. It has taken some sacrifices, discipline, and most importantly hard work around my daily life, work, and other things we deal with as we live life. I began looking like crap. So get off, that I started off with a 6 pac, because this isnt true: I earned it.

I did NOT begin with a so-called six pack. I had earned every thing I have accomplished within diet and fitness, through my own blood, and have experienced tears, aches and pains, and many obstacles, that many on this forum have or will experience in their goal path. I have earned it. It wasn't handed to me as gift.

I was 35 pounds overweight. I couldnt see my abs, and was basically an old friggen fart, and new "nothing" about diet and fitness. I was like alot of new persons on this forum just beginning a goal to gain or lose weight. I had no idea if I was going to meet my goal (meaning if my aging body in my 40's was going to allow it to happen), but I was determined to see it come true.

After I read extensively on information pertaining to my personal goal, a lot of the information seemed to settle on some "basic" truths that I had no choice to accept if I wanted my goal. No matter what I felt inside about these truths, these truths would never change, so it was either suck it up, or be stuck with my personally despictable fat body I possessed.

The first pic I showed was about 6 to 7 months of of dieting where I had already lost about 15 pounds of unwanted fat tissue. In most persons (not all as it depends on their genetic composition), the first two muscles of the upper abdominal wall begin to appear when body fat begins to drop. Though that first pic doesnt look like much, I had worked my "ass" off just to get to that point. I still had about 15 pounds of unwanted fat tissue, and like most males, I had a lot of fat tissue around the lower abdominal area, and some sagging skin (which got worse as I continued to drop weight in the forthcoming months).

The second pic, is after about 1 year and 4 to 6 months. This is the point I joined our fabulous forum. The pic is after fighting some lower abdominal fat tissue for about 2 1/2 months (it just wouldn't come off), but I kept at it, and found "my personal answer". I had to kick UP my fitness activity extraordinarily high and make some "tweaks" in my diet (adjust carbs, and go keto, along with fluctuating between deficits and surpluses), to get the last "bitchingly" stubborn fat to come off the lower abdominal area. But, I was determined that it was coming off and nothing else short of that was personally acceptable (got that?). I had sagging skin, too But, not no more. Its knocked out......stoned cold....out. I "jabbed" it into friggggggggggggggen submission.

I had the fuse, gave the lose skin the bruise and it took a snooze, because I had the "correct" internal "views"

Change yours. Mayb....to win.

I could have put a diaper on and whimper to mommy--but what does this do? The fat is still clinging to my old ass as before--as I am crying like a little baby. If I quit.....it will still be there, but this time, its laughing at my "defeated @ss". This is unacceptable. Got that? I wear the balls around here.....my body swings them and I use them.....

The greatest competition of all time is within yourself. Either one wins it. Or the go the f@ck home. I dont compare myself to someone else. They are not me. I am unique (as we all are from one another).

I am going to become "The greatest" (Muhammad Ali), master my "internal competition", and become the champion. Got that? I will defy the odds, and "shock the world" (Muhammad Ali). I am supremely confident, have the internal talent, have the heart, and will apply the "rope-a-dope" (Muhammad Ali) and wear the crap out of any resistence. Got that?

I will make a winner out of me. I may get knocked down, but I have a chin like a granite, and continue to fight. I can and will take a punch, because I expect it to come. Know your enemy and draw it close to you. Know it well. You will be able to win the battle knowing your enemy, as you learn its strengths and weaknesses, and then you knock it the f@ck out! Got that? There is no 10 count, its friggen knock out cold, flat on its back. Who is laughing now...biaaaaaatch?! Got that?!

After the second and third pics, I went into maintaining mode for about two months (or so). Then "about" September 2007, I decided to go into a mini bulk for a few months. After several months, I went from 154 lbs (and extremely lean) to about 174-176 pounds. I stopped my bulk short because I learned a lot about "who I am" and where I feel the best, personally, as far as within diet and fitness. About February 2007 (approximately), I began to diet down (in my personally designed methods that is supported through what I have learned the previous two years in dealing with myself). I set a goal weight of (161 pounds, and sub 8% body fat, or to improve slightly than what my body fat was before, while clinging on to about 7 pounds of muscle I had gained prior. So approximately (6-months) of very SLOW fat loss-on purpose, I earned my goal as stated.

And here is the current upper pic:

Shoulders2.jpg



You have a six pack within you. And, you can lose the lower portion of the skin you want gone. But, you are going to have to earn it, Mayb. You are going to be required to convince yourself you can do it, Mayb. And, you can.

Take a look at this thread:

How bad is my lose skin

If you want I can locate the various posts I have written on how I approached my diet (and may add things to it that I may have left out), and training, to help you. Its more plausible to just direct you to the link, or post it here, than to rewite it again.

Let me know, and I will be more than happy to post them for you.

Mayb, you have to educate yourself on your goal problem (remember KNOW YOUR ENEMY), in order to conquer it. What have you done in ths erea to serve you?

Are we what we think, lets see:


The thoughts that you think, regarding those things that you want, set into motion the creation, and eventual fulfillment, of that which you want. And likewise, the thoughts that you think, regarding those things that you do not want, set into motion the creation, and eventual fulfillment, of that which you do NOT want.


The thoughts that you set forth in combination with great emotion are the most powerful of your thoughts.


Understand that all thoughts create -- and the more emotion that is present at the time that a thought is set in motion, the faster the creation will be received -- and as frequent thought is given in any direction, without the hindrance of negative thought, there is certain creation, eventually.

Your emotions are not from your physical world. They come forth from the inner world and are directly communicated to you from your Inner Being.


As you are feeling positive emotion - such as love, peace, happiness, joy, excitement, exhilaration ... it is your Inner Being communicating to you in that moment that you are feeling the emotion - that your thoughts are in harmony with that which you are wanting, As you are experiencing negative emotion - such as fear or doubt, anger, hatred, jealousy, stress, guilt, anxiety .. it is a communication from your Inner Being telling you that in that moment - that which you are focused upon is not in harmony with what you are wanting.

A belief is nothing more than a thought that you have thought before, that you continue to think.


Your thoughts are powerful creators, and your words are even more powerful than your thoughts, but your actions are more powerful than your words or your thoughts--------GET IT TOGETHER.





Best wishes,



Chillen
 
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Chillen, my friend just came over and saw your posted pics. his comment was "why would you want a 6 pack when you can have a keg?" *as he walks away scratching his belly i thought to myself... "well lets see, im almost twice your age (41) and my girlfriend is the same age as you (23). Thats why!!!!" I couldnt help but chuckle to myself a little.
 
i know its not showing in that pic is meant to make me look good :p

but i promise u if i lay on my stomach, skin hangs a lot not a little.. just look at the b4 pics on page 1 are more clear..its like the skin is staying because it expects me to put that weight back on soon as i start filling those fat cells!

Wrong way to think, My friend. :)

You build the entire body with working toward the correct exercises (for you), bring in an appropriate diet, and I believe, the lose skin disappears.

Buh....make it expect to get rid of it....by giving it no alternative.

Got that? :)

Now get to work......


Best wishes


Chillen
 
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