will do, chest day is today. ill have the results first thing tomorrow...if i remember
1RM max?
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i remember reading a good few years ago that a guy training on his own in his garage choked to death doing benchpress.as i said if you know your 10rep max key it into the calculator and see what it comes up with..greentuckian if you know your 1rep and 10rep max try it and see how accurate it is ..let us know how you go onGreenetuckian said:I realize this post is flame bait but I myself believe knowing one's 1RM is important and not usually dangerous for the majority of us in the beginner to intermediate range. The 1RM calculators are not accurate at all if you train more toward powerlifting instead of bodybuilding. I think knowing your accurate 1RM for a given exercise is important for psycological reasons if for nothing else. Not really any different than a marathoner finding their time for one mile, pole vaulter seeing how high they can clear or someone wanting to know how much weight they have lost.
Even if junkfoodbad failed at 200lbs on the bench he could still roll it off his chest to his waist and then get up with it. I had to do this before I made my own safety racks. At worst you may have a few bruises but a lot more respect for spotters or racks. There really is not much danger in maxing out on the deadlift either as long as you are using near perfect form. So what if you fail will you drop it on your foot? I would not recommend max squating without a safety rack or two spotters though as this could get ugly real quick
buzz said:i remember reading a good few years ago that a guy training on his own in his garage choked to death doing benchpress.as i said if you know your 10rep max key it into the calculator and see what it comes up with..greentuckian if you know your 1rep and 10rep max try it and see how accurate it is ..let us know how you go on
again, not to worry, i will have a spotter for this and would never try this without one
Buzz wrote:
You give pretty darn good advice so I gave it a shot. Note this is after working out this morning and just after eating lunch. Since 80% of 1RM is the number I hear bantied around a lot I decieded to use it. Now I took 80% of my max BP which is 230lbs x .8 for 184. Since I could not do 184 with my set up I loaded up the bar with 185. I pumped out as many as I could but only made 7 reps, believe me there was no possibility of making 8 but I could have let the bar down for 7 1/2 reps. To work out exact I really needed 8 but I probably used up much of my energy stores this morning so the calcualtor is pretty darn accurate using 80% of 1RM.
185 x 7 = 1RM of 222 a difference of 8lbs 3.4% off
185 x 7.5 = 1RM of 226 or a difference of 4lbs. 1.7% off
Either number is pretty much statistically insignificant and would have been a good predictor as far as were to set the bar for a 1RM try. So IMO Buzz is proven correct.
Here is the link to the calculator I used - http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/OneRepMax.html
You give pretty darn good advice so I gave it a shot. Note this is after working out this morning and just after eating lunch. Since 80% of 1RM is the number I hear bantied around a lot I decieded to use it. Now I took 80% of my max BP which is 230lbs x .8 for 184. Since I could not do 184 with my set up I loaded up the bar with 185. I pumped out as many as I could but only made 7 reps, believe me there was no possibility of making 8 but I could have let the bar down for 7 1/2 reps. To work out exact I really needed 8 but I probably used up much of my energy stores this morning so the calcualtor is pretty darn accurate using 80% of 1RM.
185 x 7 = 1RM of 222 a difference of 8lbs 3.4% off
185 x 7.5 = 1RM of 226 or a difference of 4lbs. 1.7% off
Either number is pretty much statistically insignificant and would have been a good predictor as far as were to set the bar for a 1RM try. So IMO Buzz is proven correct.
Here is the link to the calculator I used - http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/OneRepMax.html
That's a good calculator. I tried it myself, like greenetuckian did.
is it for any exercise?
Greenetuckian said:I realize this post is flame bait but I myself believe knowing one's 1RM is important and not usually dangerous for the majority of us in the beginner to intermediate range. The 1RM calculators are not accurate at all if you train more toward powerlifting instead of bodybuilding. I think knowing your accurate 1RM for a given exercise is important for psycological reasons if for nothing else. Not really any different than a marathoner finding their time for one mile, pole vaulter seeing how high they can clear or someone wanting to know how much weight they have lost.
Even if junkfoodbad failed at 200lbs on the bench he could still roll it off his chest to his waist and then get up with it. I had to do this before I made my own safety racks. At worst you may have a few bruises but a lot more respect for spotters or racks
I disagree. Unless you are a competitve weightlifter, attempting a max is pointless and can be dangerous. The problem for most people is as they approach max is that their form desintegrates and this is when they need the best form. If your goal in lifting is to get stronger, a five rep max can be just as good of a measure.
Kcon said:
True, but there are parameters that work better for particular goals and the express the loads in terms of 1RM.
Alot of the pros recommend 75-85% of 1RM for 8-12 reps/set for structural hypertrophy, 80-90% for 5-8 reps/set for functional hypertrophy and 90-95% for pure strength at 1-4 reps/set.
My goals are strength, with some hypertrophy, so I tend to favor 3 reps/set for CNS development and 6-8 reps/set for functional strength.
I always hated that type of program. Either you are attempting a bunch of one rep maxes to figure your working weight or you are using a calculator from a number of reps to figure a max that you are then using a percentage of to do a different set of reps. Too much calculations and not enough work.
Kcon said:I always hated that type of program. Either you are attempting a bunch of one rep maxes to figure your working weight or you are using a calculator from a number of reps to figure a max that you are then using a percentage of to do a different set of reps. Too much calculations and not enough work.
Agreed, I use my best judgement to the rep ranges I use, but I base it on the 4x6, then increase by 25% for the 8x3.
Ok the results are in. keep in mind this is after a 1.5 hour racquetball session, so i doubt this is very accurate. i put 185 on the bar and told my spotter to take his position. I put the bar up once, the second time, i got it about halfway but there was no way i could put it up again.
I'm sure if there conditions were different, and i hadnt played so much racquetball beforehand i could have put up another 10lbs or so.
I dont think im going to be trying this again anytime soon. I tried to finish my workout after this, and i could barely complete my sets.
I dont normally lift after racquetball but this was the only time i woulda had this week to do my chest exercises.
So i can officially bench my body weight. is that good?
I'm sure if there conditions were different, and i hadnt played so much racquetball beforehand i could have put up another 10lbs or so.
I dont think im going to be trying this again anytime soon. I tried to finish my workout after this, and i could barely complete my sets.
I dont normally lift after racquetball but this was the only time i woulda had this week to do my chest exercises.
So i can officially bench my body weight. is that good?
i heard that is good. i cant bench my body weight and im in pretty good shape.
If you are down to 185 then double congrats. I believe BP'ing one's body weight is an important milestone. I know it was for me more than once and most people who don't resistance train cannot do it.
Now I looked around and I can't find very many stats for you like age, height, current weight, BF%, current routine or before / after pics. Are you keeping a diary of your progress, stats and routine? Perhaps it is time to start.
Now I looked around and I can't find very many stats for you like age, height, current weight, BF%, current routine or before / after pics. Are you keeping a diary of your progress, stats and routine? Perhaps it is time to start.
Greenetuckian said:
No not down to 185, i rationalized that i would be able to do another 10lbs had i been fresh and not after an intense 1.5hr cardio session. Ah someday though.
stats are
height: 5'9"
weight: 195
age: 27
BF%: ~19% (i really suck at taking this, im never sure how accurate it is)
I keep a diary on paper at home, its just easier. I've been slacking on progress pics for the last month but here's is so far , ive lost another 5 lbs since the last time i took a pic
obviously (judging by the pictures
)...my goal is fat loss. Take a look at those pics and tell me if it seems my BF% is accurate. as you can see, its all in my mid section.
routine is a simple push/pull split alternating them, and doing them MWF
Push:
BB Bench, Military Press, Lunges, Skulls, Calf raises
Pull:
DL, BO DB Rows, EZ Curl Biceps curls, Wrist Curls
I know its not the greatest routine in the world, but with the limited equipment and space i have it works for now. Eventually, i will be selling my pool table and replacing it with a power rack then i can add squats instead of lunges.
if your after weight loss and to gain some muscle i would do fullbody three times a week..you will burn much more calsjunkfoodbad said:No not down to 185, i rationalized that i would be able to do another 10lbs had i been fresh and not after an intense 1.5hr cardio session. Ah someday though.
stats are
height: 5'9"
weight: 195
age: 27
BF%: ~19% (i really suck at taking this, im never sure how accurate it is)
I keep a diary on paper at home, its just easier. I've been slacking on progress pics for the last month but here's is so far , ive lost another 5 lbs since the last time i took a pic
obviously (judging by the pictures
Take a look at those pics and tell me if it seems my BF% is accurate. as you can see, its all in my mid section.
routine is a simple push/pull split alternating them, and doing them MWF
Push:
BB Bench, Military Press, Lunges, Skulls, Calf raises
Pull:
DL, BO DB Rows, EZ Curl Biceps curls, Wrist Curls
I know its not the greatest routine in the world, but with the limited equipment and space i have it works for now. Eventually, i will be selling my pool table and replacing it with a power rack then i can add squats instead of lunges.
Good work man
buzz said:if your after weight loss and to gain some muscle i would do fullbody three times a week..you will burn much more cals
I've actually been considering switching to this. I was afraid I would get bored doing the same thing everyday, but i think ill definately be better off.
Only thing im worried about, is if im doing full body, then my cardio after the workout is gonna be hell. I should be alright though.
Definately looking to burn more fat. Weight loss is slow for me. But its steady. The first 20 came off like in a month and a half so this slow pace is taking a while to get used to. Frustrating when you get used to slimming up so quickly.