1 Year... no results... AT ALL! READ PLEASE

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Here's my first thread ever, I started this in
11/11 09

http://training.fitness.com/journal/journal-starting-51249.html

I've been training so hard, ever since.

When I first started I did a lot of jogging. I jogged about 8 miles per day. Every day for a few months and got very lean.(I was also lifting the whole time as well.)

I only now started to try and bulk for the first time ever now.
I don't jog at all anymore, and when I work out I do a lot less reps, but I lfift pretty heavy. Currently i'm curling about 35 per arm.(Used to do 15)

Here's my before pix:
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After Pic:
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These are 1 year results(If there are any.)(The only difference is I got a better camera. My body... nothing changed. Even on the scale it's the same. It's like I hit a plateau since the start.)

I'm extremely disappointed. I wasted a year of my life obtaining nothing. I think my genes I got are just bull ****. My dad/family tree must've never worked out because this is ****ing ridiculous.

BTW anyone that says I wasn't working hard enough. You really don't know. Many time's I worked out for 8 hours straight.

I honestly think it might've been because I wasn't eating right, and the way I was working out was intended for cutting/loosing weight. I now only do maximum an hour a day, and I lift extremely heavy and eat a **** load of proteins and carbs. Hopefully I see better results.


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I really need help! I'm turning 17 on November 12 this year. And i'm joining the military when i'm 18. So I only have a year left to get in good shape.

If anyone is kind enough, please give me something to go of off. I will follow everything. I just want to see results.

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I respect your thoughts and will not try assuming anything. I'm sad for you man.
All I can tell you is this chief, you say you worked hard, Fine, and you see no results, not even the scale... That is weird and such a pity then. Nutrition is a bitch, meaning, It's hard to get it right as we're all different. The only thing I could say is, weight wise, the fact you stopped Jogging can't have helped. And also remember that if you run a lot, very plainly, you're not 'supposed' to lift a Lot. Ofcourse you can, but technically they don't go hand in hand, they demolish each other. If you lift crazy and run crazy, one of the two has to pay the bill. If you wanna lose weight, keep running, and that will generally tone you up anyway. It's the same old six pack story, you may have it, but it's covered under fat. So I believe you increased muscle mass as you said lifting heavy, which is good, but weight and fat wise, nothing changed much, Right? Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just trying to help somehow...

My humble opinion, if you get over your anger right now, which is legit, try running again, don't lift Crazy weight or try bulk up, have you tried working out body weight? Pushups situps and things?

Good Luck man
 
I agree with FAMAS in that it's possible that there actually are changes that have happened, but they are potentially covered up by a layer of fat. If you're not eating properly, then there's a very good chance that this is what could be hindering your visible progress. Working out for 8 hours straight could have worked against you as well. Your body needs sufficient recovery in order to progress. If you overtrained, you probably reduced the chance of your body building muscle mass. Just some thoughts?

It sounds like you've been through a really frustrating time, I hope you don't give up. It sounds like you're on a better track now, how long has it been since you changed your diet/workout plan?
 
You have been doing almost everything wrong.

Exercise-wise: Compound lifts. Forget about crunches, shrugs for a while. Focus on squats, deadlifts, benches, shoulder presses etc. You say you lift kinda heavy but is it really heavy enough? Ask yourself the question, out of 10, what would you rate this weight? 10=heaviest, 0=easy. You should try aiming for a 7-8, even up to a 9 towards the end of a set.

Diet-wise: If you are trying to bulk, eat more. More protein. Do you even know how much your body needs? Are you meeting it? "I have chicken breast 2-3 times a day" doesn't cut it. Work out and eat. I am currently bulking and I feel like throwing up after every meal but the good thing is my weight is slowly going up.
 
I feel your pain. When I was your age, I was in much the same boat. I was trying desperately to build lots of muscle, and the scale did nothing (and I started out skinnyskinnyskinny, so there was no fat for me to lose, so I wasn't even recomping). I thought it must be my genetics, or maybe I just wasn't training hard enough, even though I was pushing every set of every exercise to failure. Turns out I just wasn't eating right, and I could have made significant gains with half the effort in the gym if I just ate more protein, and ate more in general.

Here are a few simple guidelines to try and follow, that have certainly worked for me, and I see no reason why they wouldn't also work for you:

- Consume about 500kcal/day more than your body needs. This is called a calorie surplus. 500kcal/day adds up to 3,500kcal/week, and a surplus around that range should have you gaining about 0.5kg/wk. So, if eating 2,000kcal/day results in you maintaining current bodyweight, consume 2,500kcal/day (2,000 + a 500 surplus).
- Consume 2g protein/kg bodyweight/day. So, if you weigh, say, 80kg, aim to eat 160g protein each day. It doesn't matter whether you eat that over several small meals or a few big meals, so long as you get that protein intake.
- Consume 1g fat/kg bodyweight/day.
- The rest of your calories can come from carbs, more protein, and/or more fat.
- Eat your fruit and veg. You won't get very far (or be able to maintain whatever mileage you attain) if you ruin your health, and the micronutrients in f+v influence both vitality (which will allow you to get more out of your workouts) and your recovery from training.
- Focus on quality of training before you worry about how much training you do. I spent about 2 years hanging around the 54kg bodyweight mark (+ a few kilos) pushing myself to the brink and not eating right, and got nowhere. When I started figuring out nutrition, I went 4 months without training to failure, just focusing on technique for the most part (and slowly adding weight/reps without failing reps), and because I fixed up my nutrition, I gained 7kg in that time, while still having visible abs. At the time I thought I was doing a lot of training (mostly because Tuesdays involved an over-abundance of training), but in hindsight I really wasn't -- I was doing about 6 hours spread out through the week (8-9hrs/wk in the last month when I was spending 2-3hrs in a pool learning to teach aqua aerobics on Saturdays), and, incidentally, most of it was in the 7-8 RPE that HyungJun mentioned above. You want to be doing quality exercises (again, compound movements like squats, presses and pulls should be at the heart of your program), and you want to be doing them to a high quality (ie with technique that is both safe and effective for your muscle-building goals -- no cheating reps unless you've got a really good, non-ego-related reason for it). Once you've got that down, then start rewarding your successful workouts by adding 1.25kg to each end of your barbell next time you train.
 
FAMAS said:
I respect your thoughts and will not try assuming anything. I'm sad for you man.
All I can tell you is this chief, you say you worked hard, Fine, and you see no results, not even the scale... That is weird and such a pity then. Nutrition is a bitch, meaning, It's hard to get it right as we're all different. The only thing I could say is, weight wise, the fact you stopped Jogging can't have helped. And also remember that if you run a lot, very plainly, you're not 'supposed' to lift a Lot. Ofcourse you can, but technically they don't go hand in hand, they demolish each other. If you lift crazy and run crazy, one of the two has to pay the bill. If you wanna lose weight, keep running, and that will generally tone you up anyway. It's the same old six pack story, you may have it, but it's covered under fat. So I believe you increased muscle mass as you said lifting heavy, which is good, but weight and fat wise, nothing changed much, Right? Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just trying to help somehow...

My humble opinion, if you get over your anger right now, which is legit, try running again, don't lift Crazy weight or try bulk up, have you tried working out body weight? Pushups situps and things?

Good Luck man
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Thank for the amazing reply. Sorry i'm replying so late. I posted this and was scared to come back in fear of being judged/made fun of.

I eventually came and saw your amazing constructive criticism. It really means a lot.
I do realize that I shouldn't have been jogging and lifting. That's why currently i'm not doing any jogging. I'm just bulking on whey protien+chicken and lifting heavy for about an hour a day.


In case your wondering, i'm not just doing biceps lol.

I workout everything including legs.
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I do feel a difference now.
I haven't visually changed in fact I probably got slightly fatter. but i'm lifting a lot more weight.
My cousin who's the same age as me came over.(He also workouts but he mainly jogs.)
He came into our home gym/garage and tried curling what I was curling and he couldn't do a single rep.

So that did give me some confidence. I'm definitely able to lift heavier now. Back when I jogged a lot I was lifting lighter weight(Strength training I guess.) I was curling 20 on each arm. Now i'm doing almost 40. It might not sound like a lot but I feel it's a huge improvement.

It's crazy because on the 10th rep I could barley lift it and have to use my body to help. So i'm definitely lifting my max atm.
 
Unify said:
Thank for the amazing reply. Sorry i'm replying so late. I posted this and was scared to come back in fear of being judged/made fun of.

I eventually came and saw your amazing constructive criticism. It really means a lot.
I do realize that I shouldn't have been jogging and lifting. That's why currently i'm not doing any jogging. I'm just bulking on whey protien+chicken and lifting heavy for about an hour a day.


In case your wondering, i'm not just doing biceps lol.

I workout everything including legs.
-
I do feel a difference now.
I haven't visually changed in fact I probably got slightly fatter. but i'm lifting a lot more weight.
My cousin who's the same age as me came over.(He also workouts but he mainly jogs.)
He came into our home gym/garage and tried curling what I was curling and he couldn't do a single rep.

So that did give me some confidence. I'm definitely able to lift heavier now. Back when I jogged a lot I was lifting lighter weight(Strength training I guess.) I was curling 20 on each arm. Now i'm doing almost 40. It might not sound like a lot but I feel it's a huge improvement.

It's crazy because on the 10th rep I could barley lift it and have to use my body to help. So i'm definitely lifting my max atm.
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Hi again man =)

I'm glad my humble words could be of even the slightest help, you shouldn't ever worry or feel embarassed chief, you're only to be proud of your work, that is my View ;)

Some encouragement always helps I guess...

I'm happy to hear you fine, and that's good. There's time for everything and it definitely takes time to find a balance, and you took the decision to lift right now and it's going well I hear, awesome.

Somehow you will manage to get some running when you can or want if you feel like it, running is always good, for anyone, no matter your objective, just remember that the petrol used in your long runs left you empty when you needed to lift more, simple enough, and maybe you got to Plateau.

Anyhow I'll shutup ^_^

Best Wishes to you sir God Bless.
 
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