Talking About Discipline

I could stand to lose some weight, but this isn't exactly the only problem in my life. I smoke quite a bit, I don't eat right, I don't get exercise and I procrastinate on work a lot. I am a graduate student and have a very erratic and busy schedule. The truth is, I know quite a few people IRL that can give me weight loss advice specifically with respect to what exercises I should do. However, I've tried before, and I always start only to give up a week later. The thing holding me back is that I lack discipline, the weight gain is just one symptom of that. I intend to use my weight as an indicator of the development of my personal discipline. That said, I need some advice on how to overcome the lack of discipline in my daily habits.

Are there people who specialize in this area? Someone who is able to look beyond the narrow focus of body image, and who is more manipulative than forceful in their methods. Are there personal life coaches of this sort and do they charge a lot?
 
Well personally, i jut try to puwh through knowing ill be alot happier at the end of the day knowing i was within my calorie goal then indulging earlier and feeling guilty later, thats just me though.

I also was to say that if you plan to quit smoking youll probably gain a pound or two..
 
Ultimately it is up to you, no one is going to change you but you. So you need to decide do you want to be healthy energetic and attractive? (By being a fit non-smoker)

Or do you want to be fat, lazy, smelly and unattractive? (By being unfit and being a smoker)

Not a very tough call. And oh, BTW, don't you want to live longer and better?
 
I am a 42-year-old female who began smoking at age 18 and have tried quitting many times. All times before now I tried because I knew I should. Also, my weight fluctuates. Currently at least 10 pounds over what I'd prefer. Two weeks ago, someone I admire and whose opinion I value said to me "the worst thing about you is that you smoke." That was a new kind of trigger for me. She wasn't my doctor, she wasn't preaching. She got to me. The first week since then I had one cigarette a day and haven't had or wanted another for the past week. Even seeing a character in a movie light a cigarette (which used to always make me light one of my own) doesn't bother me at all. And I'm back at the gym again. Working out is incredibly easy and fun when you're not smoking. So not smoking and getting exercise are no longer a matter of discipline when you've got things in perspective. I'm excited to know I'll soon be fitting into my favorite dresses again and my friend will be so proud when I see her again.
 
Bubs58 ans SXIPro, I totally understand what you're saying and I agree 100%. Unfortunately, in my case, it is not enough to appeal to reason because my lack of discipline is just too severe. I'm not sure if it's my upbringing or what, but I can't seem to push through in the way I've seen many other people do it (including some close personal friends). I study sociology and I have a somewhat complicated idea of agency and structure, which while academically and theoretically valid on a sociological level, at the level of my own personal psyche, I may be employing it to justify not taking responsibility for my actions. I truly believe this theory, and I don't intend on giving it up, however, it explains only populations and it is not meant to explain individual behavior. I just need to stop intellectualizing the decisions I make, I guess. As you guys can probably see by now, my problem with discipline is one of over intellectualization of the issue. Discussions in the past always lead me to question the nature of free will and things like that, when the practical (although not necessarily the more accurate) thing would be to accept some sort of authoritative response. Of course this is me analyzing me, this does not necessarily operate on a conscious level, in spite of the fact that I am conscious of it now.

KMarshal, this is interesting, because this is sort of the type of influence I wish I had. It seems everybody in my life knows how to push the wrong buttons, those that lead me deeper into the well of addiction and irresponsibility. But there must be people who are professionals at this, people who know how to push the right buttons, and that guide you rather than push you. However, I disagree when you say that it is all a matter of perspective and not discipline. I don't believe the two are mutually exclusive. But in any case, at this point I appear to be rambling.

Anyway, I was reading this thread here, which I find rather insightful:
http://training.fitness.com/weight-loss/weight-loss-intricate-27164.html
Particularly the section of the power of choice. However, this is too abstract to be of any use to me. When I quit (or took a haitus) from smoking the first time, the counselor told me that when I wanted a cigarette, I should do something else for a while and try to forget about it. They also told me to switch brand to something I didn't like, before my "quit date." These are the sort of concrete ideas I think people need to succeed, particularly the stubborn and undisciplined. The point is at some point I quit making the right choice and started making the wrong choice again.

In any case, I think talking explicitly about this is going to help. People say you have to visualize success, and there is truth to this. It is not a guarantee, but it is success is impossible without it I would presume.

Also, I will keep posting here regarding my decisions so that you guys can offer your input and such.

So, I think I'm going to call the American Cancer Society because they have a pretty good quit line. And you see how this is helping, because I've been saying I was going to do that, but having said it publicly, then I am going to do it NOW!

Furthermore, I think that I need some concrete advice on exercise. I think I should start light, and probably get a physical. I could probably get this done at school, since we have a cheap clinic as students.

So that's a very unnecessarily long post. Sorry. I just needed to get all this out and get the ball rolling, and I didn't see any other way. I'll keep you guys posted :D
 
In other words

When you do quit smoking and start moving and exercising, you may come to see these things as no more a matter of discipline than brushing your teeth. It will be your new routine.
 
When you do quit smoking and start moving and exercising, you may come to see these things as no more a matter of discipline than brushing your teeth. It will be your new routine.

Well, I just called the quitline, and I have an appointment with the doctor for a physical just to make sure.
 
You are way overthinking this whole deal. Stop thinking and start doing. THIS IS YOUR HEALTH we are talking about.

In the amount of time it took you to type your last post, you could have burned 250 calories on an elyptical. :)

Listen to the Nike ads. Just Do It!!
 
Lil lardo - weight loss is not easy its very cliche to say go exercise and eat less, but if you seriously believe its a problem you could always get a personal coach, its pricy but youd be paying him to do all the thinking.

SXIpro - you commented on one of my thread saying Just Do It, and really, its that simple its all about just pushing yourself and since you last told me to just do it ive lost another 3 pounds :)
 
Lil lardo - weight loss is not easy its very cliche to say go exercise and eat less, but if you seriously believe its a problem you could always get a personal coach, its pricy but youd be paying him to do all the thinking.

SXIpro - you commented on one of my thread saying Just Do It, and really, its that simple its all about just pushing yourself and since you last told me to just do it ive lost another 3 pounds :)

That is totally awesome!! Keep up the good work.
 
I sympathies with what your saying about discipline as for i have had similar blocks in other areas of life. I'm sensing a lot of emotional charge in your post about this. Sometimes its that charge that totally jades our mindset about our willingness to adopt better habits. I suggest make changes in your life one at a time, but as you do, make each new change or habit one that you can enjoy as part of your lifestyle. I understand your sense that it has to be a discipline and while good health has self discpline to an extend, this sense that you need discipline and strenuous will only serves you to want to avoid it.

Simplify your approach and your mindset by asking yourself,whats the first thing i know i can do for my health now and how can i make this an enjoyable aspect of my healthy lifestyle that will last? Good luck and i wish you the best in your smoke free life :)
 
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