Supplements? Yes or No?

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im currently 98kgs and wanting to burn fat.

All I want is not really a fast way to lose weight but I want to know that what im taking will help in the gym and out of it. I dont want to gain all this muscle and look like a walking ballon with big arms. I want to look lean. adding muscle to me is the 2nd step.

Im on the bodyforlife () program and I have creatine but found out that some creatines can make you look puffy with the extra water the muscles take.

the current creatine i have is:



I dont know if protein would be good or not.. if it would add weight instead of losing it etc.

I was recommended by a guy in LA who owns a gym to use Designer Whey Protein, and instead of creatin use Superpump 250.

Superpump -

Designer Whey Protein -


please any help would be great.
Thanks
 
you never 'need' supplements. that's why they are 'supplemental' to your regular diet.

That said...

1. Creatine monohydrate is ALL you need IF you want to use creatine. NONE of the fancy creatines work any better than monohydrate, but they do cost more.

water retention is a possible side effect, and most people that do retain water still don't get the 'puffy look' that you're concerned about. Just stay hydrated.

2. a good whey or whey + casein blend protein powder isn't mandatory, but if you're not meeting your protein needs through whole foods, a shake or two a day can help.

protein powders don't make you gain or lose weight any differently than eating a steak. They are both food, they both have calories. If you eat more calories than you need, you gain weight. that weight could be fat, muscle, or both.

I've done body for life myself, many years ago. you have to watch the diet component because Bill Phillips doesn't know the difference between a starchy carb and a fiber carb. You should definitely feel free to eat a lot of vegetables at each meal, just remember that corn and potatoes are not 'vegetables'. Corn is a grain and potatoes are just too damn starchy to be a veggie in the sense I'm talking about.
Think 'green leafy veggies', and stuff like broccoli and cauliflower.

body for life is definitely about slimming down, not bulking up. diet dictates this far more than training does.
 
Thanks,

I am doing the low GI diet. still trying to watch my fat intake aswell but mostly eating low GI foods. not really going off the eating-for-life program as such.
 
Hey buddy. Let me introduce myself, my name is Stephen, not Valentine817. anyways, supplements are just that, supplement. They are meant to supplement your diet, which is the first thing you should have in order, if not, PM me.

Creatine works well if you are willing to work hard. Long story short it recycles ATP which is the fast energy for muscle cells allowing you to work out for short bursts, longer.

Proetin is a must. Some people will tell you to not get alot such as Dr. Atkins. But what does he know? Dr's get less that 10 hrs of nutritional schooling, don't take nutritional advice from a Dr. unless they have proven otherwise knwledeable...because some are very. Protein contains 23 amino acids, only 8 are essential meaning we need to get them from dietary sources. The others can be manufactured in the body by their constituent amino acids.

Listen to this, amino acids are your brains best friend. amino acids help tp create most notable neurotransmitters, such as: Tryptamine, Serotonin, Melatonin, GABA, Dopamine, and noradrenaline. All these are very important chemical messengers.

That is besides the point, but my point being, you NEED protein. Next point about protein, don't get too much. Proteins are made up of long chain Amino Acids, key term, acids. If you get too many acids in your blood, the body will have to ward them off through an alkalyne mineral, this being calcium from your bones. too much protein can actually draw calcium out of the bone and into the blood to balance the PH. This can suck for a weight lifter, the last thing we need are achy bones or arthritis.

Creatine makes you bloat because it attracts water to muscle cells, it drives water out of the kidneys and stomache to inflate the muscle, this is not necessarily a problem unless you are getting enough water. Wich most people simply don't. This is why there have been reported cases of heat stroke in football ploayers and other athletes, they simply die from dehydration, not necessarily creatine.

1. Get protein, not too much
2. Creatine is fine, monohydrate is cool
3. Google ways to speed up metabolism

You might want to look into thermogenics. Check with a physician first. Although, most thermogenics are also diruetcs so you will need to drink even more water.
 
Valentine817 said:
1. Get protein, not too much

You might want to look into thermogenics. Check with a physician first. Although, most thermogenics are also diruetcs so you will need to drink even more water.
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How much is not too much? Why would you recommend thermogenics instead of looking at tweaking the diet in the first place. Doctors know less about thermogenics than they do nutrition.

Other than that, you mentioned how important protein is because of the breakdown into amino acids and then went on about neurotransmitters and then said don't get too much protein.

Too much information that's not necessary for someone that doesn't have a basic understanding of caloric manipulation.
 
evolutionX said:
How much is not too much? Why would you recommend thermogenics instead of looking at tweaking the diet in the first place. Doctors know less about thermogenics than they do nutrition.

Other than that, you mentioned how important protein is because of the breakdown into amino acids and then went on about neurotransmitters and then said don't get too much protein.

Too much information that's not necessary for someone that doesn't have a basic understanding of caloric manipulation.
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What's up Evo? I'm not trying to confuse anyone here. Of course, as I'm sure you know, I did not recoomend thermogenics. I said he might want to look into it. To further my point, again, I did mention his diet...if you read the intoroduction, that was the first thing I mentioned. And too much protein depends on the individial. We all have seperate caloric requirements, as you should know. The RDA of protein right now is around 70g. Although, everybody is different, I would shoot for 1-1.5g per lb. And yes Dr's don't know much in way of thermogenics, but I legally cannot tell somebody to check something out without telling them to check with a physician...And the iformation is devistaingly necessary. There are many bodybuilders who now have arthritis simply because of a PH imbalance caused by acids. It's somethign that needs to be in the forefront of a weightlifters mind. Who can weightlift when they have weak bones? I don't know anyone.
 
Creatine is naturally produced in the human body from amino acids primarily in the kidney and liver. It is transported in the blood for use by muscles. Approximately 95% of the human body's total creatine is located in skeletal muscle.The rest is located in the brain or heart.

Creatine is not an essential nutrient as it is manufactured in the human body from L-arginine, glycine, and L-methionine.

You do not need creatine in your body. Supplements are good but it depends on how you select the right one for to achieve its benefits.
 
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There is no need creating in your body. Supplements are good but it depends on how you select the right one for to achieve its benefit.
 
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