What do you think of this split?
- Thread starter davidjr74
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I would appreciate it if people actually read my posts. The statement I corrected was that training increased your weight. This is not true as creating mass out of anything other than 'energy in', i.e. calories, would be defying the laws of physics.
If you don't believe me, here is a link to a site explaining energy transfer to small children, energy is not 'created' nor is it 'lost', it always transfers BBC - Schools - KS3 Bitesize - Science - Physics - Energy Resources and Energy Transfer, therefore weight gain is absolutely not possible without a calorie surplus as you can't create energy out of nothing so weight training has no effect on weight gain * at all. (*Please note that I said weight gain and not muscle gain, this simple distiction seems to have escaped some of you.)
Something slightly more advanced now from the biology point of view, read the section on 'what is metabolism' High School Biology - Cellular Respiration. Anabolism only occurs when there is an excess of supply, I'm afraid it's an unavoidable fact
Weight training simply influences the type of new tissue that is created with the building blocks you supply.
And to tenpercent, here is my post again, maybe the second time around you can read the part about training also being required for muscle development.
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Sorry, I'll have a think, there are stickies regarding weight training and creating a routine in the weight training section though, have you tried looking in there
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I'm not surprised that Elan doesn't know WTF he is talking about, either here or in the discussion on McDonalds. Elan, you are really a kid, de-repping jerks like you is a feature of the internet. You should have joined teen bb.com where they behave like you.
Ive only ever de-repped once.
Stop being so insecure.
If you acctually read my posts, nothing Ive said is wrong.
Typhon was mearly talking about 'weight' as in over all body wieght including fat, when everyone else was under the assumption he ment 'muscle mass'.
Thats why he edited his post, to stop the confusion.
Keep up Pwilly.
And davidjr74 - dont do a split, go full body!!!
if you wanna bulk try HST.
'clean bulk' is a bit of a bro-lore term, your going to gain some weight, just accept it and cut when your thru the program.
Elan, you are revealing your immaturity and you remind me of phate89. You yourself stated that people can express their opinions, rep is also an opinion. Its kids like you that like whingeing about rep. You are wrong as you can see pmdilly states not exactly to your post. It is also kids like you that start namecalling over the internet.
Agreed. The guy should have just looked there.
You want a good Hypertrophy routine. IMO your best bet is to stay with a full body routine instead of a split. New Rules of Lifting has 3 Hypertrophy Phases. Huge in a Hurry as 2 as well. There are several good Hypertrophy routines Chad Waterbury has out there. If your diet is right a solid full body routine will do more for you than a split.
Haha, respect Typhon?
Sorry about that, I deserve no more respect than anyone else on an internet forum
I think maybe it's time to spread the love a little and get back to the question
I like splits, I find them a great way of increasing training frequency and volume while still allowing rest for different areas. A lot of it comes down to personal preference and time constraints
NROL is a fantastic book though, got it in my Christmas stocking
IMO, if you're gonna go for a split then try a Push/pull split on M,T,T,F so you're training all areas 2xweekly and have at least 3 days rest between directly training each muscle group
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Haha, respect Typhon?
Sorry about that, I deserve no more respect than anyone else on an internet forum
I think maybe it's time to spread the love a little and get back to the question
Sorry man. I got carried away by this kid. We could well do with a "teen site" for Elan to troll in til he has hairs on his chest. Lets get back to business.
Thanks for quoting what I already read twice. Arguing on the interent is stupid but your attempts to belittle are silly.
Sure you said a calorie surplus was needed with training. You also said :
Note my response was to THIS portion of your statement. So perhaps this is where I am suppose to quote my post and ask YOU to read it the second time around.
The irony of it all is we agree. To gain muscle you have to lift AND eat. Now we can discuss the best way to lift and get over who read what.
but if you had read all of his posts you would have seen that he thinks training is important.
Gaining weight and gaining muscle are two different things. I can gain a ****load of weight without ever going to the gym. But if I want that weight to be muscle, I'll have to train.
the problem here is that Elan's statement suddenly changed from gaining weight to gaining muscle, which are two different things.
EDIT: also, some people in this thread have a tendency to go after the person behind the statements instead of the statements themselves. stop that. now.
Gaining weight and gaining muscle are two different things. I can gain a ****load of weight without ever going to the gym. But if I want that weight to be muscle, I'll have to train.
the problem here is that Elan's statement suddenly changed from gaining weight to gaining muscle, which are two different things.
EDIT: also, some people in this thread have a tendency to go after the person behind the statements instead of the statements themselves. stop that. now.
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Not my fight. Just addressing what was directed to me. I think it is VERY evident by what I quoted in my post that I was addressing the statement about muscle being made in the kitchen. No where did I say HE was wrong. I addressed the statement.
I think he should pick up NROL and do the hypertrophy routines.
Maybe I took your comment in the wrong way then, I thought you were addressing my points in general and not just the statement so I appologise for taking it so personally