Planning to run eight miles every Sunday, not sure how that effects my plan.

Hey there. I'm planning to get back in shape again. I posted here a while back about my plan. But never really went through with it because things happened in my life. But I'm tired of being out of shape.

I just got done running about eight miles with a jogging group up in the northern parts of San Francisco. Started around 8:30am and finished at about 10:30am. It was fun and I really enjoyed it. I'm thinking about doing this every Saturday. It had been the first time I had done that kind of running in a very long time so I'm surprised I finished it.

In any case, for main plan, what I want to do is I guess kind of gain weight for mass and build muscle out that. I'm going with the John DeFranco's "Westside for Skinny Bastards Part 3". It was recommended to me a while ago by a veteran member here. I found a local gym that is free close to my house. It's kind of small, but I think I can do most of the exercises from DeFranco's guideline. If not, I'm going to just put together what I can from that guide and give details about what else is there at the gym. Then perhaps some people here can help me out with my workout plan.

But for the look I'm trying to get, I know I have to eat a lot. In addition to working out, the running thing may be my only major cardio exercise I do. Not sure if that is going to help me with my current goal, or make it harder to achieve it. I'm tired of doing the stationary bike for the majority of my cardio, so I'm probably going to either quit that or scale it back a bit. By the way I'm about 160 pounds and 5'10'', almost 5'11''. I want to try to get to 200 with a really cut body eventually in time. I know I can go to the gym three times a week, but I'm going to try and go four times. Just might be a little hard with school and all. Well any advice?
 
what are your reasons for doing cardio,if they are for health reasons then go ahead,if not then there is no need if your trying to bulk up.
 
If you wanna run, run. I wouldn't do much other cardio during the week though.

I'm a little confused by your comment "...I guess kind of gain weight for mass and build muscle out that."

Aside from water weight and undigested food weight, there's only two kinds of 'weight' you can adjust in the body: Fat, and Muscle.

If you are 'gaining weight' you better be gaining muscle, otherwise you're just becoming another obese American :)

A proper diet for bulking that doesn't go above the threshold of calories that is right for YOU, will limit the amount of fat gained. Some will be gained...its pretty much unavoidable if you want to really add lean muscle mass quickly. But it can be minimized.

I'd also get plenty o' carbs the night before your Saturday runs, and an 8 hour run for 2 hours is one of those events where Gatorade is going to be better than straight water, or possibly G2 (the lower carb GAtorade)
 
If you wanna run, run. I wouldn't do much other cardio during the week though.

I'm a little confused by your comment "...I guess kind of gain weight for mass and build muscle out that."

Aside from water weight and undigested food weight, there's only two kinds of 'weight' you can adjust in the body: Fat, and Muscle.

If you are 'gaining weight' you better be gaining muscle, otherwise you're just becoming another obese American :)

A proper diet for bulking that doesn't go above the threshold of calories that is right for YOU, will limit the amount of fat gained. Some will be gained...its pretty much unavoidable if you want to really add lean muscle mass quickly. But it can be minimized.

I'd also get plenty o' carbs the night before your Saturday runs, and an 8 hour run for 2 hours is one of those events where Gatorade is going to be better than straight water, or possibly G2 (the lower carb GAtorade)

Well yeah I want to gain muscle. But don't I have to eat a lot more calories for that? And with a lot more eating comes more fat right? Even if it's healthy eating? But you are saying the fat gains can be minimized right? Oh yeah and they have free Gatorade every Saturday when we run about two miles and take a two minute break.
 
The body is just an in/out system. You eat calories, expend them, and whatever's leftover is stored as fat (this is a VERY simplified view).

By lifting heavy weights, you break down muscle tissue, which has to be repaired. This takes some calories, and specifically requires protein. If there is enough extra protein in the diet, and the body is regularly getting broken down by weight training, it will build the muscle fibers up with more density...more mass. More Muscle.

But its just so hard to know exactly how much extra food to eat to get the muscle, without some fat. Some people just gorge themselves, pile on muscle AND fat. Other people very carefully monitor their progress, and add muscle with very minimal fat increase.

Same is true when trying to shed fat. You can grossly undereat, burn fat AND muscle, or you can try to eat just the right amount to encourage fat burning, while retaining lean muscle mass.

The right amount of calories, with the right combination of protein, carbs and fats...is the ticket to good progress without shooting yourself in the foot.
 
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