Body refuses to lose weight

Up until about a week ago I was losing 2-3 lbs. a week; now I'm not losing any weight.

I'm 5'10 / 163 lbs. / 20 years old / 15-16% BF

I do cardio 4-5X a week. Either a HIIT or 1 hour long moderate run.

I'm eating extremely clean. No carbs 4 hours before bed. Nuts, chicken, jerky, bananas, lettuce, eggs, plenty of water, no sugar, etc.

I lift weights 3x a week. Arms & Shoulders, Chest & Back, and Legs.

Ontop of that I'm taking a full college load plus a job, so I'm constantly on the move.


Any advice? I'm THIS close to abs...
I don't know if it's important or not. But my poops have been super small the past few days. Like rabbit poops.
 
Don't measure your progress through weight but through waist or BF%. You can lose fat and build muscle which will not show on the scales.

If you still feel like you should be losing then look into the plataeu breaking methods such as carb cycling, super sets, more/tougher HIIT, zig zagging etc.
 
maybe add a little more fiber to your diet and eat more green veggies like spinach, broccoli, kale, asparagus, etc.
 
If you're not losing weight you aren't at a caloric deficit. Like phate said, eat less or burn more.

but at your height weight, bf% you might want to consider a clean bulk
 
If you're not losing weight you aren't at a caloric deficit. Like phate said, eat less or burn more.

but at your height weight, bf% you might want to consider a clean bulk

Thanks for the advice everyone. :action8:
The main reason I'm cutting right now is to get Abs. I've never had them before and I'd like to see if I have a six pack under there. My chest is flat, theres just a bit of left over flab left over on my hips and pecs area that I want killed off before I start bulking again.
 
Up until about a week ago I was losing 2-3 lbs. a week; now I'm not losing any weight.

1. How many weeks of dieting?

What was your calorie consumption per day and macro nutrients?

What were your calorie deficit projections per day? How did you calculate this?

Was your calorie consumption the same on non-workout days as compared to workout days or different? (I ask this because caloric requirements are in deed different between these days, because activity is LESS as compared to the other, obviously). And, dependent on what you were doing (in the days I contrasted), it can be a margin of several hundred calories. Again, realizing there are unknowns, this can eat away at your fat loss potential.

Here is something to think about, and generally people miss about calorie approximators:

While Benedict and other reputable calorie counters approximates calories fairly accurately (they are generally very good), they have a common problem (in which I personally didn't like).

They give you a "blanket" calorie approximate. And, generally what people do, is select a multiplier, and use the resulting calorie projection (and run a small deficit) per day off of this approximation; however, its my opinion (in some cases) this is the wrong thing to do.

For example: Obviously, if you are not working (employment), and its an off day from workouts, and you are just rummaging around (so-to-speak), your calorie requirements are going to be substantially lower as compared to when you do workout and do work (employment), no?

So, theoretically speaking if you kept (say a 1.6 multiplier from Benedict) and subtracted (say -300 calories) thinking you are creating a deficit--one could be actually eating over (or creating a surplus), no? This is the PRIMARY reason, my calories are not the same each day: Its simply that my activities likewise vary. To prevent THIS from being a problem, I have to pay attention to it. If one can not see that this is "potentially" a problem, the need their head examined.

Most know how I feel about nutrition and calories, so don't misunderstand me. I am not "bashing" the good calorie projectors. It is a sound base to learn what one needs in calories. I am just "exposing" a problem of "blanketing" a multiplier for the entire week when activity levels fluctuate, and believe using a "sliding" multiplier (within reason) is the superior choice, IMO, to conform to the differences in activity level.

For example: Use a 1.6 multiplier for days you workout and work (employment and/or school) which results in higher calorie projection because of activity, and a 1.2 (as an example) for days you are at home, not working (employment, school, etc), and not working out (a rest day), which results in a lower calorie projection because of activity. Realize the multipliers, I used are JUST EXAMPLES.

I do not see anyone on the forum indicating this sort of behavior on the forum, but I have always followed my activity level for the level of calories consumed, and its pretty damn powerful, IMO.

Now, if you are reading this correctly, it is obvious (at least to me), this ALONE can effect ones fat loss potential: You would be cruising along on a blanket set of calories, (and setting a deficit), thinking you are doing the right things, and all the while you would be "over eating" and not know it on certain days, and thus affecting your potential for good tissue loss.

Something I thought I would throw out there for you (and others to think about it).

I'm 5'10 / 163 lbs. / 20 years old / 15-16% BF

I lift weights 3x a week. Arms & Shoulders, Chest & Back, and Legs.

Ontop of that I'm taking a full college load plus a job, so I'm constantly on the move.


Any advice? I'm THIS close to abs...

Display your workout in more detail, including your rest days.

No matter what people say, you adhere to your personal goals and wants (as long as their not psychotic and are reasonable ;)). Do you have a current pic of yourself? If you do, do you mind sharing a most recent one?

This will give us a more detailed view of your current bodily position, and is, imo, a reasonable thing to request.

We have had new persons in the past "who wanted abs", but really are bones, and have no upper body mass, to really support having abs in the first place. I do not mean (HUGE), I mean "enough" muscle mass. I need to clarify that. And, even this "enough" can vary in opinion. But let YOUR "educated" opinion decide what is enough.

And, one more thing. Most people think getting abs are easy.

The ones that say this, are usually the ones that don't have them (but did at one point want them).

It isn't easy, my friend. The nature of this "easy" can depend on many things: Personal starting point, genetics, how strict one follows diet (and adapts to feed back), and variables in "overall" training (and adapting to this feed back).

You will have your work cut out for you: Take this from one who does in deed know. Answer my questions, and I will try to assist you all I can.


Best wishes


Chillen
 
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1. How many weeks of dieting?

What was your calorie consumption per day and macro nutrients?

What were your calorie deficit projections per day? How did you calculate this?

Was your calorie consumption the same on non-workout days as compared to workout days or different? (I ask this because caloric requirements are in deed different between these days, because activity is LESS as compared to the other, obviously). And, dependent on what you were doing (in the days I contrasted), it can be a margin of several hundred calories. Again, realizing there are unknowns, this can eat away at your fat loss potential.

Here is something to think about, and generally people miss about calorie approximators:

While Benedict and other reputable calorie counters approximates calories fairly accurately (they are generally very good), they have a common problem (in which I personally didn't like).

They give you a "blanket" calorie approximate. And, generally what people do, is select a multiplier, and use the resulting calorie projection (and run a small deficit) per day off of this approximation; however, its my opinion (in some cases) this is the wrong thing to do.

For example: Obviously, if you are not working (employment), and its an off day from workouts, and you are just rummaging around (so-to-speak), your calorie requirements are going to be substantially lower as compared to when you do workout and do work (employment), no?

So, theoretically speaking if you kept (say a 1.6 multiplier from Benedict) and subtracted (say -300 calories) thinking you are creating a deficit--one could be actually eating over (or creating a surplus), no? This is the PRIMARY reason, my calories are not the same each day: Its simply that my activities likewise vary. To prevent THIS from being a problem, I have to pay attention to it. If one can not see that this is "potentially" a problem, the need their head examined.

Most know how I feel about nutrition and calories, so don't misunderstand me. I am not "bashing" the good calorie projectors. It is a sound base to learn what one needs in calories. I am just "exposing" a problem of "blanketing" a multiplier for the entire week when activity levels fluctuate, and believe using a "sliding" multiplier (within reason) is the superior choice, IMO, to conform to the differences in activity level.

For example: Use a 1.6 multiplier for days you workout and work (employment and/or school) which results in higher calorie projection because of activity, and a 1.2 (as an example) for days you are at home, not working (employment, school, etc), and not working out (a rest day), which results in a lower calorie projection because of activity. Realize the multipliers, I used are JUST EXAMPLES.

I do not see anyone on the forum indicating this sort of behavior on the forum, but I have always followed my activity level for the level of calories consumed, and its pretty damn powerful, IMO.

Now, if you are reading this correctly, it is obvious (at least to me), this ALONE can effect ones fat loss potential: You would be cruising along on a blanket set of calories, (and setting a deficit), thinking you are doing the right things, and all the while you would be "over eating" and not know it on certain days, and thus affecting your potential for good tissue loss.

Something I thought I would throw out there for you (and others to think about it).



Display your workout in more detail, including your rest days.

No matter what people say, you adhere to your personal goals and wants (as long as their not psychotic and are reasonable ;)). Do you have a current pic of yourself? If you do, do you mind sharing a most recent one?

This will give us a more detailed view of your current bodily position, and is, imo, a reasonable thing to request.

We have had new persons in the past "who wanted abs", but really are bones, and have no upper body mass, to really support having abs in the first place. I do not mean (HUGE), I mean "enough" muscle mass. I need to clarify that. And, even this "enough" can vary in opinion. But let YOUR "educated" opinion decide what is enough.

And, one more thing. Most people think getting abs are easy. The ones that say this, are usually the ones that don't have them (but did at one point want them). It isn't easy, my friend. The nature of this "easy" can depend on many things: Personal starting point, genetics, how strict one follows diet (and adapts to feed back), and variables in "overall" training (and adapting to this feed back). You will have your work cut out for you: Take this from one who does in deed know. Answer my questions, and I will try to assist you all I can.


Best wishes


Chillen

Hmm. Interesting! Thanks for the advice man! :) Heres the answers to your questions.

Been dieting for around 6 weeks.

Calories are between 1800-2200 depending on activity level.
High protein, moderate fat, low carb.

To get my calorie consumption I started at 2500 calories and cut 200-280 cals per week until I started losing weight at a good pace.

I'm pretty sure I have Ok upper body mass. I do pretty well in Bench Press, Dead Lift, etc.

I can't post pics because I don't have 15 posts...But I PM'ed you the pics Chillen!
Thanks! :grinning:
 
You're too light to be losing weight, try gaining muscle instead

I second this.

also- if you are not eating carbs, how are you fueling your "cardio" and how is your performance?

I am no science guy, but I really think that what we do not give the body "at all" it saves like a mad; in deficit or not.

how much water are you drinking?

oh, and good luck sending private pics to Chillen! yer in a tangle now! bwahahahaha :cool3:

nothing a nice bowl of frozen yogurt won't fix.

Sweat Daily
FF
 
NO! Chillen is prettty sollid. Solid what is another topic. but "solid" he is for sure!

I was messin wiht the dude.

why not post the pic public anyway?

people who get that pic phobia thing gpoing need teased.

FF
 
Hmm. Interesting! Thanks for the advice man! :) Heres the answers to your questions.

Been dieting for around 6 weeks.

I lift weights 3x a week.

You have been dieting 6 weeks. How much fat tissue have you lost within this 6 weeks? How did you "determine" your fat loss--stopped?

How have you been tracking and personally analyzing this?

This is a "loaded--question", in case you didn't know it. Was it by scale? If so when, where, and how? Was it by the mirror? Both? What?

This is critical in my opinion, because a lot of persons get frustrated, "because" they are just "simply" not educated enough when analyzing themselves, along with....factoring in the normal weight fluctuations that tend to occur.

For example (only, keeping diet equal), one could weigh themselves in the AM when they first get up (and they are on a fat loss diet), and the scale indicates a loss (of what ever), the next day at the same time with the same type of cloths on, weigh their selves again; this time however, they weigh about 2 pounds heavier, and this weight could be "simply" poop in the colon because they haven't had a bowel movement yet.

So you see, how the scale can really screw with someone--that is not looking at things with "educated eyeballs?"

Fluctuating carbohydrates can play with weight (water retention). I could go on with examples. But, the point is: EDUCATION, baby!

Realize that 6 weeks ISN'T that long to be dieting (to lose fat tissue) and fitness training.

With you being so new, it is absolutely possible, you put on a "small amount" of muscle growth (did we forget about this goal as well?)---which could have offset-the fat tissue loss.

With your training and diet (for tissue loss), and with you being so new (only 6 weeks), you are in a prime "condition" to get some "conflicting" results, IMO. Or what "appears" to be conflicting feedback.

Remember, you have two potential things going on here:

The potential for muscle growth, and the potential for fat loss: These could absolutely off-set (or oppose one another).

And, new persons to weight training, this is even "heightened" even more, as compared to one doing it for a "much" longer period.

And, this could reveal itself on the scale as no gain (but you in fact did).

I experienced this during my fight with fat loss (initially) many times in my goal path: I welcomed it. BRING IT.

I wanted to build/maintain muscle (initially) and lose fat tissue. I "expected" some trade-offs in weight because of this--especially at the beginning.

I currently, don't weigh that much, because of my height, and simply I don't carry much body fat (understanding that diet has restricted some growth because of the way I designed it).

I wasn't going to shrivel to a prune (and if you seen some of my progress pics, you see that I was "gaining muscle" and losing fat especially at the beginning).

And, as you can see, I am not near that. This is why one needs to evaluate their self physically other than the scale.

I am not saying not to use it. Just don't over use it, and depend on it for the life thread of your goal.

Up until about a week ago I was losing 2-3 lbs. a week; now I'm not losing any weight.

Realize something here, young man. Prior to your "change in diet" your body was used to a totally different dietary and activity pattern.

Then suddenly the next few weeks, you flipped just about everything your body was "used to" upside down.

IMO, it is an environment, just breathing a heavy reaction (in potential muscle increase and/or fat loss).

The body tends to react strongly. You are giving it stresses it hadn't experienced before; thus this applied new stimulus on your muscles (being so new), and your new applied stimulus in diet (deficit dieting), are both going to effect your: WEIGHT. This is a "positive" thing to embrace (keeping things equal, and again assuming this is what is taking place).

How is your training exercises structured with Arms & Shoulders, Chest & Back, and Legs, 3X per week? What are these exercises?

Lay out your weekly schedule for example: Monday (FBW), Tuesday-Wednesday (rest), Thursday (FBW), Friday-Saturday (rest), Sunday (FBW), as example. What ever it is specify it in detail.

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I'm 5'10 / 163 lbs. / 20 years old / 15-16% BF

Calories are between 1800-2200 depending on activity level.
High protein, moderate fat, low carb.

To get my calorie consumption I started at 2500 calories and cut 200-280 cals per week until I started losing weight at a good pace.

I do cardio 4-5X a week. Either a HIIT or 1 hour long moderate run.

From (Benedict), your base approximate calorie need is: 1834c.

This is the base, IMO, you NEVER go under. This is your approximate caloric need without any activity included (as if you laid in bed all day doing absolutely nothing).

I used my own self made Benedict calculator in excel to determine it:

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Using a 1.5 multiplier (Moderately active, EXAMPLE), brings your calories (with activities considered) to: 2700c. (Assuming 3X per week FBW).

Now, I need to mention something about the cardio. You did not specify "when" you did this. Is it the same day as the FBW or on rest days? Also get more in a "progressive routine" with it, and keep one or two types of cardio (and use these types to progress with)

This can change caloric needs. Which is it?

With this multiplier being used, brings your approximated calorie "operating range" to: 1800 to 2700c

What this means is you do not go under 1800 calories on ANY DAY, whether you train or not. You will NOT do yourself any favors doing so. You give your body a sound calorie operating environment, and this is its base. Don't make me repeat it, or I may go...off! :) :SaiyanSmilie_anim:

On top of your training day, you also work (what is your employment?), and go to college?

You calorie needs on these sort of days, could go be "above" 2700c, or hypothetically you could use a higher multiplier on these days than the moderate 1.5 (as in my EXAMPLE), of course.

I wouldn't "exactly" say that if you train, go to school (full time), and work (in one day), is categorized as: Moderate. You could move this type of day to: Very active (or use this multiplier instead), and then drop slightly (to moderate) on days you don't train and do not do cardio.

I believe with you dropping back 200 to 280 calories (as long as you were not picking at food here and there an erasing this calorie deficit), was a very reasonable thing for you to do. This is actually a "lower" deficit than most people use. Most people traditionally use -500 as a starting point from the activity side of the approximation.

For example, if you used a 1.5 multiplier (say not training [calories are not being burned here because you are off-which can amount to about 400c--dependent on length and other factors], but have school, and work), you would take the -500c from the activity side calorie approximation of 2700, and get: 2200c. Or the top end of what you specified in your post. Again, a very reasonable calorie approach.

I have a question. Have you been "tracking" your calories by writing them down? Do you have these? What "specifically" are your macro nutrient levels?

If you just noticed no change (say in the 6th week, keeping in mind what I advised you), I wouldn't be too concerned at the present time. Bring your deficits UP from 1800, and create a reasonable deficit from the "activity multiplier you decide to use.

One thing is for certain (if what you say is accurate). Cutting from 2500 and eating around 2200, has netted some results thus far (DO NOT FORGET THIS).

With this post in mind.......what do you.......think your action should be?






Best regards,


Chillen
 
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That is the most thorough and on point answer I have ever seen.

No kidding!!! I got half way through before I had to start writing cliff notes! Great stuff :eek2:

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The fat around my hips/chest is the area I'm most concerned about...Whenever I wear a shirt thats a bit too small it looks like I have man boobs and am ready to be milked or something :sad2:

I've been dieting 6 weeks, and seriously with 5x a week workouts for about 3 weeks. I've been estimating my weight loss based on actual scale weight. Since I haven't lost strength in any of my lifts I've been assuming it's fat. Probably not the best way to do it.

I've been using all 3. Morning scale, night scale before a workout, and a mirror. Theres some improvement from the mirror; but not as much as I've been hoping for.

Thanks for estimating my calories! I figured it would be around that range!

As for my employment it's a pretty lazy job. Basically sit at a desk and do homework/surf the net most of the time and occasionally get up and walk around. My only muscles being used there are my butt and my brain. I do ride a motorcycle to/from/around school/work/gym/errands and I'd like to think that might help lose calories as apposed to driving a car...but I'm not 100%.

My workouts are usually like this:

Arms & Shoulders: Curls, Tricep Cable Pull Downs, Dips, Chin Ups, Skull Crushers, Shrugs, Overhead cable pulldowns.
Chest & Back: Bench Press, Incline Bench Press, Pec Fly, Back Press(?), Dead Lift.
Legs: Squats, Hack Squats, Leg Curl(Forward and Backward), , Lunges.

My cardio is based solely on a ski machine. I have a leg injury and can't use treadmills/running or anything thats high impact on my knee. The calorie counter usually says I burn around 450-500 Cals.

Based on your post I'd say my next actions should be:
-Increase my diet by a few cals. on training days.
-Find a new method to measure my progress(BF Calipers?)
-Start writing down my calorie intakes per day
-Get motivated
-Recommend you for man of the year for that freaking post!:eek:
 
Ok. Looks like the weight loss has started up again. I lost 1 lb. since eating more on my training days. Just a few more to go!
 
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