Help with improving pecs and abs

Allright thanks again. I have access to my friend's pool, would swimming laps help in overall workout?

Yeah, but not the most ideal way. Home pools are great for recreation and Marco Polo, but are hard to do much in the way of cardio as they are too short (unless your friend is very wealthy and has a 25yard pool).

Cycling, running, and swimming in a lap pool provide great cardio workouts.
 
Agreed.

One does not, without any shadow of any doubt, work through "inapropriate" pain and/or injury.

One's body is their castle. You only have the one. Be wise. Take care of it. Listen to it, very wisely. Your mind can be a friend or foe, and you determine which. When faced with an injury and/or pain where its "inappropriate" to train, take care of the "goal functions" you have complete and utter control over while you let your body heal, and you will stay on track. If you see this as a set back, this can and could set a domino effect you do not want. Control your personal faculties of your goals and you roll.

Best wishes,


Chillen

Very bad advice, based on what has been posted. If the op has a rotator cuff injury, "working through it" will make it much much worse! Rotator Cuff Injury

Arg. So very true...I read too fast and thought I only saw wrists in there...in martial arts they always told me that some joints would probably be more-or-less sore at first...and even so...even if it was wrist pain it is no reason to work through it...

/praise Chillen & g8r80

Thanks for speaking up for both our sakes. :D

Do you think anything could have brought on this pain/injury? Any past accidents or whatnot?

About the pool, I would go for it one way or another...swimming is better than not swimming...added exercise is never a waste. As for getting more of a workout maybe you have a local community center with really large pools?

I got tendinitis in my left shoulder once and went to the doctor and he told me what to do and I managed to get it fixed pretty fast...go see a doctor asap before doing anything with your shoulders.

Again...my apologies for the bit of misinformation.

Good luck man.
 
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I honestly have no clue what could have caused my shoulder to be like this. I have bad joints overall. My knees, ankles, wrists, and elbows hurt some days too.

I swam today, some intense laps. My arms and the sides of my pecs are sore.
 
Aye, take the time and see a doctor, if one doctor can't help you with this ask for a reference to a specialist...the sooner you take these steps the better.

When I got tendinitis I waited a lot and postponed a lot of workouts in fear of making it worse...I finally decided to see a doctor and my problem was solved almost immediately.

My arms and the sides of my pecs are sore.

This sounds like normal muscle soreness...


Good luck man.
 
Yeah I love that type of soreness, it lets me know I actually did something.

I've started drinking a lot more water, I read up on the subject and I haven't been drinking enough. Also little to no processed foods, Ill ask my mom to start buying healthier food.
 
Good advice so far, if you are having pain...

I honestly have no clue what could have caused my shoulder to be like this. I have bad joints overall. My knees, ankles, wrists, and elbows hurt some days too.

I swam today, some intense laps. My arms and the sides of my pecs are sore.

If you have shoulder tendinitis you should seek out a physical therapist however without an evaluation it would be hard to make that call. An overall deficiency of nutrients, which are lacking in your diet, might be contributing to/ or causing the problem. Look into a balanced diet of fruit, vegetables, healthy fats (almonds, some oils etc), proteins and carbohydrates.

You could cut out fast food altogether, the stuff is junk in terms of training. I don't think it even tastes good compared to a real nice home-style burger.

When you lift make sure you warm up your body first and not jump right into your heaviest weight, this also helps prevent injury. Focus on each set and don't speed through the lift arching or swinging the body. Bicep lifts should be done with the biceps, not swinging momentum. Do weight that is comfortable enough to avoid hurting your joints yet challenging enough to overload the muscle groups.

Switch up your routine every so often to make the workout fun and to try to avoid 'plateauing'

Good Luck~
 
What a pleasant surprise, I went looking through page 2 trying to find this thread to update you guys, but somebody bumped it for me. I've started eating healthier, more fruits, veggies, non processed foods and no fast food. My left side of my abs is getting more developed than my right haha, but Im just pleased to see improvement. I have a very very faint four pack forming :D
 
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*BUMP*
Lately I've been really unsure about my stomach fat, I can't tell if it's a lot or not, my friend has the same amount of pullable skin/fat and a six pack, but I'm still unsure.

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That's pulling it as far as I can, to the point where it feels like it's burning.
 
lol everyone tell him to BULK!!! the boy just wants a simple line down his chest and bigger pecs lol!....sorry dude but the line down the chest doesent look good if you have no muscle there. You need to gain some ****in muscle dude but dont worry you got plenty of support on this website from some really knowledgeable people :)
 
Yeah I love that type of soreness, it lets me know I actually did something.

I've started drinking a lot more water, I read up on the subject and I haven't been drinking enough. Also little to no processed foods, Ill ask my mom to start buying healthier food.

I dout the ask your mom to buy your food would work because i did that with my parents and all the farking have is like veggies and **** now and i have to make my own stakes and chicken half the time :mad:
 
I know I should bulk so that it will look better, but I actually love having my ribs show. It may not look better to most people, but this is just for pleasing me and making me more comfortable with my body. Unless it's absolutely necessary to bulk, I really don't plan on it.
 
I know I should bulk so that it will look better, but I actually love having my ribs show. It may not look better to most people, but this is just for pleasing me and making me more comfortable with my body. Unless it's absolutely necessary to bulk, I really don't plan on it.

If you want to gain muscle, it is necessary. But if you enjoy being skinny, thats your choice. What ever makes you happy.
 
If you want a line to show anywhere, how will you create it without muscles, mate?

The line just won't appear because you eat a special sort of cereal or...something.

This line you refer to is muscles definition. In order to have one you need muscles and a low body fat percentage.

Ask yourself this my friend: Would you rather show off ribs due to being skinny or would you rather show off your chest and abs instead because you are strong and manly?

;)

Now...what is it you really want? You seem unsure/confused. Tell us, we'll get you on the road.

Eric
 
Well when I talk about bulking, I'm thinking of all those bulking threads where the pics show huge guys with quite a bit of fat. I'm more interested in toning, not bulking. Is this possible?
 
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You need to gain muscle, to do that you need to eat more and you need to lift with intensity and frequency.

Bulking does not mean getting fat, how much fat you gain depends on how clean your diet is and how much of a surplus you eat. It is perfectly possible to gain muscle while lowering BF
 
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