seated dumbell shoulder press and seated row.

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How do you do each of these exercises?

With the shoulder press... do you bring the dumbells down all of the way? or stop when your arms are parallel to the floor? Why?

With the seated row, do you do a row at all? As in move your entire self? Or do you just basically keep your back completely straight and just move the weight with only arms? WhY?
 
With the shoulder press... do you bring the dumbells down all of the way? or stop when your arms are parallel to the floor? Why?
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Bring the dumbbells down to your shoulders. (touch your shoulders) A full range of motion is a good plan. If you get into the habit of stopping at some arbitrary point you will end up doing shorter and shorter range of motion lifts as you are pushing yourself and using more weight.

With the seated row, do you do a row at all? As in move your entire self?
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You can. Leave your legs in a fixed position. But if you get some forward and backward movement at the hip it is a really good exercise. This will allow you to use heavier weight, get a good reach at the "bottom" of the lift for a good range of motion.

Do not lean too far back. Leaning forward some and then bringing yourself back to an upright/just past upright position is a good route to go.

When I do seated rows I usually do them with some movement at the hip. I feel it is a more complete back exercise when done this way.

Or do you just basically keep your back completely straight and just move the weight with only arms? WhY?
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You can do it this way to. Using a more strict style can help you learn better how to protract and retract your shoulders and get more range of motion out of your upper back. Especially if this is something you have trouble with.

Rowing in general is not just moving your arms. It is reaching your shoulders forward (protraction) and then pulling them back. (retraction) Learning to do this will help build your upper and middle back a lot more.

Think of initiating the row at the shoulder. The first move is pulling your shoulders back and puffing your chest up. That will recruit your back first and you will be able to pull with your back more through the entire range of motion. The second movement is pulling your elbows back.

A lot of people initiate rowing exercises at the elbow, starting the exercise with their biceps. This really decreases the amount of weight that can be used as well as decreases the overall activation of the muscles in your back.
 
goergen1 said:
Bring the dumbbells down to your shoulders. (touch your shoulders) A full range of motion is a good plan. If you get into the habit of stopping at some arbitrary point you will end up doing shorter and shorter range of motion lifts as you are pushing yourself and using more weight.



You can. Leave your legs in a fixed position. But if you get some forward and backward movement at the hip it is a really good exercise. This will allow you to use heavier weight, get a good reach at the "bottom" of the lift for a good range of motion.

Do not lean too far back. Leaning forward some and then bringing yourself back to an upright/just past upright position is a good route to go.

When I do seated rows I usually do them with some movement at the hip. I feel it is a more complete back exercise when done this way.



You can do it this way to. Using a more strict style can help you learn better how to protract and retract your shoulders and get more range of motion out of your upper back. Especially if this is something you have trouble with.

Rowing in general is not just moving your arms. It is reaching your shoulders forward (protraction) and then pulling them back. (retraction) Learning to do this will help build your upper and middle back a lot more.

Think of initiating the row at the shoulder. The first move is pulling your shoulders back and puffing your chest up. That will recruit your back first and you will be able to pull with your back more through the entire range of motion. The second movement is pulling your elbows back.

A lot of people initiate rowing exercises at the elbow, starting the exercise with their biceps. This really decreases the amount of weight that can be used as well as decreases the overall activation of the muscles in your back.
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A rocken post.

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Chillen
 
Like the attached animation from beyond training?



The text with the animation goes like so

beyond training said:
Instructions:
Sit or stand with the dumbbells held at a right angle from your body. Press the weights up using a count of two and exhale. Squeeze for a moment at the top of the movement. Slowly lower the weights back to a 90 degree angle using a count of four while breathing in and repeat. Tips:

* Avoid arching your back and look straight ahead, not up.
* Do not lower your upper arms below the shoulders.
* Do not lock your elbows at the top of the movement.
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looks good except stopping when arms are parallel, doesn't really make any sense unless it hurts to go below parallel.
 
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