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Has anyone watched this new show on TLC?

It's a show where this guy helps people overcome "emotional eating." From the commercials I think it looks ridiculous, but it's the kind of ridiculous that's like watching a train wreck, so I kind of want to see it, and was wondering if anyone else has seen it.

I understand the concept of emotional eating, but rather than watch some show and follow some guy tapping his arms or face to overcome your eating, why not instead get your ass up and go for a walk, or play with your dog, or exercise, or anything to that effect?
 
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from the commercials it looked really stupid, but I saw parts of it and what he has to say makes sense, but that whole tapping thing is pretty dumb. He does have some interesting tips that would work.
 
It's a load of crap.

The host is famous for the fact that in the 90s he was a celebrity hypnotist - which he seems to have moved away from and now into 'psychologist' realms.

I watched just one episode, yes he does speak some sense with regard to emotional eating - but then he tries to convince you that all carbs are bad!!

This is what happens when you put a non-nutritionist in a position to influence a lot of people at once.
 
Some of the stuff said is good and makes sense, but there's nothing magical about it. It's a lot of common sense really. That said, some people will need to hear it aloud before they can even think of putting into practice. For extremely overweight people sometimes it is difficult to even begin. It feels like there's so much to overcome and you'll never be able to make it. A show like that can maybe help someone with their first pounds to at least give them a feel of what it's like to start being healthy.

In the end it's like I said in another post recently, "it's about the money". Money for TLC and money for the host. Why else put it on TV? I doubt TLC or the host is that altruistic.

Another point...
It's a lot like P90X or something in that there is no magic to P90X. I'm sure it works because you work out every single day and bust your butt, but you could do that without purchasing the program if you only had enough will power. For overweight or unhealthy people, sometimes it's about making a large enough investment (emotional, time, and money even) that you cannot turn back without reaching your goals. The problem there is people seem to think if they invest it will come easy. Think of all the weight watchers and jenny's club members who just put the weight back on. They haven't learned to change their lifestyle, only to eat what they're told as long as they're told to eat it. What happens when someone stops looking over their shoulder? They revert to their old habits.
 
Actually what he says is (as others have pointed out) common sense. The tapping thing that you can't grasp the concept of is called acupressure points.

In a very polite way, basically he is saying:

"stop stuffing your fat face and look at what you are shoving in your mouth."

People have long ignored what and how much they are eating and that is why so many people are overweight. Everyone is in such a god-damn hurry, they forgot how to sit down without driving, or a TV, magazine, book, or some other distraction in front of them and just pay attention to what they eat.

Others have developed the crutch of food to ease their woes.

But whatever the reason, it boils down to being conscious of what and how much you eat.

For some people it might be just what they need to get off their ass and do some exercising.....
 
gotfit said:
For some people it might be just what they need to get off their ass and do some exercising.....
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True. Different strokes for different folks. If he helps someone, more power to him. From our perspective it may seem rather lame....but most of us here on this forum have an interest in personal health that spans far beyond the average American.

Just take a visit to any Hometown Buffet and watch who walks in & out of the doors to that restaurant. Our reality is not theirs.

And besides, it's not like there's much original stuff left to produce for a television show. They're desperate for anything viewers might tune into. When you really think about it, that's what you're watching: a show produced for the purpose of presenting and drawing an audience for which statistics can be drawn to support an advertising cost presented to those wishing to gain more business & sales through marketing their services on TV. It's all about business & money baby..and today Slim sells!
 
gotfit said:
For some people it might be just what they need to get off their ass and do some exercising.....
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Yeah but the more important and difficult task is preventing relapse and adapting a whole new lifestyle permanently, this programme (never seen it) doesnt provide a cent of this..
 
BikeSwimLaugh said:
True. Different strokes for different folks. If he helps someone, more power to him. From our perspective it may seem rather lame....but most of us here on this forum have an interest in personal health that spans far beyond the average American.
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Well it is the average american that needs to get off their tush and do something. We all have to start somewhere. Why not with what you put in your mouth?

I also have always had an interest in personal health. Have always kept myself in shape in one way or another (be it running, incline training, yoga, weights, floor exercises, etc..). But, everyone has to start somewhere.

If we expect people to get in shape and continue to do it throughout their lives, we have to start with the basics, or it will get lst on them. That is why so many people fail with diets, and that bloody counting calories crap. They need to be able to apply basic principles to everyday living.

That's what he does. Granted it isn't anything amazing, but if someone REALLY wants to improve their eating habits, then all they have to do is follow what he is saying and it can be done. And it is a begining.


BikeSwimLaugh said:
And besides, it's not like there's much original stuff left to produce for a television show. They're desperate for anything viewers might tune into. When you really think about it, that's what you're watching: a show produced for the purpose of presenting and drawing an audience for which statistics can be drawn to support an advertising cost presented to those wishing to gain more business & sales through marketing their services on TV. It's all about business & money baby..and today Slim sells!
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Original? not at all, a good way to remind people to pay attention to what they eat, yeah, it is. I don't watch the show....boring.....but I have looked at his web site, and the info is there, all someone has to do is apply it. Not like you have to go send away for meals to be sent to you. That doesn't teach you anything except that you are too lazy to cook your own food and you will be fat again unless you eat their meals forever....

cheers,
Diane
 
matt182 said:
Yeah but the more important and difficult task is preventing relapse and adapting a whole new lifestyle permanently, this programme (never seen it) doesnt provide a cent of this..
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What makes you say that? How doesn't it provide the adequate basic necessities to start a better means of watching what you eat? IT also talks of motivating ones self to exercise.

I think it may be too simplistic for people who have been actively taking care of themselves for years with exercise and the proper diet, but for those who want to get started, why not here?
 
gotfit said:
What makes you say that? How doesn't it provide the adequate basic necessities to start a better means of watching what you eat? IT also talks of motivating ones self to exercise.

I think it may be too simplistic for people who have been actively taking care of themselves for years with exercise and the proper diet, but for those who want to get started, why not here?
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The episode I saw he was telling everyone to eat what ever they want, just less of it. He had some guy on there who had lost a lot of weight and he said the only exersise he did was walking once a week for 15 minutes. Now granted that was the only episode i"ve seen, but that doesn't seem like good advice to me. In my opinion this show just perpetuates the myth that there is some "secret" or "magic pill" to fitness. When in reality it takes eating the right things and exercising. I do think that those who are obese should start with small changes, but telling someone to eat that greasy pizza slower so you will eat less of it is not good. What about cutting out corn syrup or white carbs or fried foods as a starting point. A friend of mine who is overwheight did this and lost ten pounds in two weeks. Obesity is a terrible problem in this country and I think people just need to know the truth, that it's not easy and it will take work, but it's worth it.
I'll step of my soap box now.
 
I agree with a show that empathizes on the "you" rather than the "science" or "what worked for me."

My theory of obesity comes from the fact that people are taught of what is good and what is bad. No matter where you go, you see something about what is good or what is bad. Just looking at the kitchen of food, I see things like, "One a day for a healthy heart." And it's even more funny that the soup commercial has women running around happily and showing off themselves while eating a soup that has 100 calories. "So good, and so smart," says the commercial. It's like telling people, eat this, or die. This problem even extends to the type of people enjoying these so-called health products. The type of person eating it, you see, are healthy, young people. But yet, in reality, the only person actually buying it are people who are so health-conscious that they end up being severely overweight and stuck with the forever idea that the only way out of it is to eat products that promises a "healthy you."

I think in the end, eating what you want, whenever you want, for however many you want is the key to ending obesity. By giving on unlimited access to things, they will learn to control it. Leaving you pet cat with a bag of food open and water while you leave for a few days will result in you coming home to see that the bag isn't fully gone, and that the water is only halfway gone if even that. Give a wild cat that only eats once a week the same options will result in no food left, and the possibility of coming home to a starved animal. The lesson learned is that when you know you will forever have food, you will not overeat and you will automatically space the food out in its proper time. For example, last night on the Simpsons, Homer went on a diet, and as a "last meal" he went out to eat everything he loved before he gets into his diet. This is where failure occurs, because you overeat (since you believe that food will never be available again) and you end up not going on your diet, anyways. Sure you will gain weight at first when you eat whatever you want, but depending on how long you've been on diets after dies, you will eventually learn to control the eating by having your mind free and clear of the food. Some takes years, while others take weeks, but it always work when you free your mind of the diet life.
 
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liquid85 said:
The episode I saw he was telling everyone to eat what ever they want, just less of it. He had some guy on there who had lost a lot of weight and he said the only exersise he did was walking once a week for 15 minutes. Now granted that was the only episode i"ve seen, but that doesn't seem like good advice to me. In my opinion this show just perpetuates the myth that there is some "secret" or "magic pill" to fitness. When in reality it takes eating the right things and exercising. I do think that those who are obese should start with small changes, but telling someone to eat that greasy pizza slower so you will eat less of it is not good. What about cutting out corn syrup or white carbs or fried foods as a starting point. A friend of mine who is overwheight did this and lost ten pounds in two weeks. Obesity is a terrible problem in this country and I think people just need to know the truth, that it's not easy and it will take work, but it's worth it.
I'll step of my soap box now.
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Well, then you don't know what you are talking about. Just because you watched *1* whole episode, you don't have a clue about what he is trying to help people achieve. I suggest you don't bother to step on the soap box till you are more informed......
 
two thumbs up!!!

Dallen said:
I agree with a show that empathizes on the "you" rather than the "science" or "what worked for me."

My theory of obesity comes from the fact that people are taught of what is good and what is bad. No matter where you go, you see something about what is good or what is bad. Just looking at the kitchen of food, I see things like, "One a day for a healthy heart." And it's even more funny that the soup commercial has women running around happily and showing off themselves while eating a soup that has 100 calories. "So good, and so smart," says the commercial. It's like telling people, eat this, or die. This problem even extends to the type of people enjoying these so-called health products. The type of person eating it, you see, are healthy, young people. But yet, in reality, the only person actually buying it are people who are so health-conscious that they end up being severely overweight and stuck with the forever idea that the only way out of it is to eat products that promises a "healthy you."

I think in the end, eating what you want, whenever you want, for however many you want is the key to ending obesity. By giving on unlimited access to things, they will learn to control it. Leaving you pet cat with a bag of food open and water while you leave for a few days will result in you coming home to see that the bag isn't fully gone, and that the water is only halfway gone if even that. Give a wild cat that only eats once a week the same options will result in no food left, and the possibility of coming home to a starved animal. The lesson learned is that when you know you will forever have food, you will not overeat and you will automatically space the food out in its proper time. For example, last night on the Simpsons, Homer went on a diet, and as a "last meal" he went out to eat everything he loved before he gets into his diet. This is where failure occurs, because you overeat (since you believe that food will never be available again) and you end up not going on your diet, anyways. Sure you will gain weight at first when you eat whatever you want, but depending on how long you've been on diets after dies, you will eventually learn to control the eating by having your mind free and clear of the food. Some takes years, while others take weeks, but it always work when you free your mind of the diet life.
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I couldn't agree with you more. Well said....well said.......
 
gotfit said:
Actually what he says is (as others have pointed out) common sense. The tapping thing that you can't grasp the concept of is called acupressure points.

In a very polite way, basically he is saying:

"stop stuffing your fat face and look at what you are shoving in your mouth."

People have long ignored what and how much they are eating and that is why so many people are overweight. Everyone is in such a god-damn hurry, they forgot how to sit down without driving, or a TV, magazine, book, or some other distraction in front of them and just pay attention to what they eat.

Others have developed the crutch of food to ease their woes.

But whatever the reason, it boils down to being conscious of what and how much you eat.

For some people it might be just what they need to get off their ass and do some exercising.....
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I agree with this 100%. Some people just need to pay attention to their eating, thus understanding when enough is enough. Others simply need to go out and do a little something. It's all about "you." If someone can truly understand their limit, then they will reach unlimited potential. It's not about "how much" you eat or "how much" you exercised or "how much" you gained or lost. It's more about paying attention to yourself, and understand what the limit is. Again, it's a natural ability you have, but for some, that natural ability long ago got flushed out with world messages about what is the "limit" and "how much" is good enough. It's funny that when obesity became common right around the same time the bathroom scale became common.
 
Dallen said:
I agree with this 100%. Some people just need to pay attention to their eating, thus understanding when enough is enough. Others simply need to go out and do a little something. It's all about "you." If someone can truly understand their limit, then they will reach unlimited potential. It's not about "how much" you eat or "how much" you exercised or "how much" you gained or lost. It's more about paying attention to yourself, and understand what the limit is. Again, it's a natural ability you have, but for some, that natural ability long ago got flushed out with world messages about what is the "limit" and "how much" is good enough.
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Well, people are in such a hurry, to loose weight, or look great, they miss what is important and you hit the nail on the head: It's all about 'you'.....and understanding what their limit is.


Dallen said:
It's funny that when obesity became common right around the same time the bathroom scale became common.
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LMAO! some skinny persons idea of a bad joke........:D

cheers
Diane
 
gotfit said:
Well, then you don't know what you are talking about. Just because you watched *1* whole episode, you don't have a clue about what he is trying to help people achieve. I suggest you don't bother to step on the soap box till you are more informed......
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The problem with that though is that many people may only see *1* whole episode. And if the one they saw was last night they got the same message I got. He had the crowd chanting that they lost weight and ate whatever thay wanted. The crowd cheered when the man who lost 180 lbs said he never worked out. That's not healthy. Now I'm not an expert on this guy, I admitted as much in my first post, but the only thing he's trying to achieve is the same thing diet pill makers are trying to achive. More money. People like him prey on overweight people by selling them some quick fix, some easy solution, but there isn't one. He may have some good ideas or some good tips, but the show is called "I" can make you thin. The focus is on him. The truth is it takes work to lose weight and be healthy, but that's not easy to sell. The truth doesn't make alot of money. If the show was called- "You "can lose weight with hard work", no one would watch.
 
liquid85 said:
The problem with that though is that many people may only see *1* whole episode. And if the one they saw was last night they got the same message I got. He had the crowd chanting that they lost weight and ate whatever thay wanted. The crowd cheered when the man who lost 180 lbs said he never worked out. That's not healthy. Now I'm not an expert on this guy, I admitted as much in my first post, but the only thing he's trying to achieve is the same thing diet pill makers are trying to achive. More money. People like him prey on overweight people by selling them some quick fix, some easy solution, but there isn't one. He may have some good ideas or some good tips, but the show is called "I" can make you thin. The focus is on him. The truth is it takes work to lose weight and be healthy, but that's not easy to sell. The truth doesn't make alot of money. If the show was called- "You "can lose weight with hard work", no one would watch.
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Imagine if he did workout and how he would look losing the same amount of weight. 5x better i'd bet.
 
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