I heard you don't like aerobics
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I thought it was yoga and pilates you questioned about?
About aerobics, it can be good for conditioning and getting some cardio. However, in terms of fat loss it's not really that ideal because it usually doesn't have the intensity required to really burn cals. Offcource, anymovement will burn calories, and aerobics does too, it's just not the most effective thing to do if you think cals burned per hour and cals burned per hour AFTER you stopped training.
About aerobics, it can be good for conditioning and getting some cardio. However, in terms of fat loss it's not really that ideal because it usually doesn't have the intensity required to really burn cals. Offcource, anymovement will burn calories, and aerobics does too, it's just not the most effective thing to do if you think cals burned per hour and cals burned per hour AFTER you stopped training.
Do you mean aerobic exercise (like exercise with sufficient oxygen) or aerobics, like aerobics class, like this?:
And yes, it elevates heart rate and breathing and it WILL cause calories to be burned, but there are other ways that will cause more calories to be burned faster.
When that is said, it doesn't matter how many calories you burn with exercise if you still eat over that.
let's say your maintence is 3000 cals, this is what you need to maintain your weight with no exercise.
Let's also say that you eat 4000 cals. You will gain weight. If you now add enough exercise every day that burns 500 cals, you have burned 500 of the 4000 you eat, you're now at 3500. You are still over your maintence.
And yes, it elevates heart rate and breathing and it WILL cause calories to be burned, but there are other ways that will cause more calories to be burned faster.
When that is said, it doesn't matter how many calories you burn with exercise if you still eat over that.
let's say your maintence is 3000 cals, this is what you need to maintain your weight with no exercise.
Let's also say that you eat 4000 cals. You will gain weight. If you now add enough exercise every day that burns 500 cals, you have burned 500 of the 4000 you eat, you're now at 3500. You are still over your maintence.
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Whats EPOC.....? (Im rather----brain dead--he, he.....stop it!)
Hey stop barging in the debate. If you have nothing to do don't do it here.
LOL, yes Im familiar with it. It didnt sink in the previous post. Sure...I will post something.
Pardon, me Gnutella, was this conversation between you and my friend, Karks?
Im sorry for entering the conversation. Can I participate? I mean no harm to the the topic.
Then you have heard wrong. However, we do often recommend weight training because it is an effective tool, both for fat loss, strenght and muscle size.
Can you provide a link to the post in question?
I know I have often recommended against pilates and yoga, this is because pilates often encourages poses where the hip flexors do a lot of work and will become tight, this is something that's bad because a lot of people struggle with anterior pelvic tilt (which is caused by short hip flexors, among other things). I'm not saying it's useless at all, but for many people it might not be a good idea, and if you want to do it, you need to be careful so you don't get tight hip flexors.
I don't have a problem with yoga when it's performed correctly, however, many instructors don't know how to make moves like bridges encourage hip flexor mobility instead of lower back mobility. In many yoga posts you see the lower back hyperextended, this is not good, the back is not suppose to bend that way and the lower back is a joint that needs stability, not mobility.
Can you provide a link to the post in question?
I know I have often recommended against pilates and yoga, this is because pilates often encourages poses where the hip flexors do a lot of work and will become tight, this is something that's bad because a lot of people struggle with anterior pelvic tilt (which is caused by short hip flexors, among other things). I'm not saying it's useless at all, but for many people it might not be a good idea, and if you want to do it, you need to be careful so you don't get tight hip flexors.
I don't have a problem with yoga when it's performed correctly, however, many instructors don't know how to make moves like bridges encourage hip flexor mobility instead of lower back mobility. In many yoga posts you see the lower back hyperextended, this is not good, the back is not suppose to bend that way and the lower back is a joint that needs stability, not mobility.
First, show me one post where I said aerobics or yogo is useless and one has to do weight lifting. I do cardio twice a day (such as stated in my COL many times).This is like the 3rd (or so) post I have seen you posting this sort of comment.
My motive was to be a participant in the discussion with you and karky with good intentions.
I dont have any problems with aerobics or yoga.
Please show me where "a chauvinist is harassing a newbie"---point to a link. In addition if YOU is referring to ME you are mistaken, and you have over 4,000 posts to choose from to SHOW ME where I made this statement.
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A short view on EPOC:
When one actually examines calories burned during the post-exercise period it is relatively small. Some people believe that the EPOC effect is sufficiently small and that it does not have a major role in the control of weight loss by itself. I dont agree when one considers the entire picture.
IF you combine EPOC and the entire exercise session with proper diet--this combination--increases calories burned--and CAN increase weight loss--with proper diet.
There are several things which influence EPOC: (resynthesis of creatine phosphate in muscle, lactate removal, restoration of muscle and blood oxygen stores, elevated body temperature, post exercise elevation of heart rate and breathing, elevated hormones, and so on and so forth, etc).
I pulled this from one of my OneNote sections: (I dont recall the source)
In one study researchers examined the post-exercise oxygen consumption of strength training exercise to increase metabolism. (Lets save the metabolism debate, shall we )
Metabolic rate was measured for nine subjects after 40 minutes of cycling (80percent of maximal heart rate), 40 minutes of circuit training (50% of individuals' 1 RM x 15 repetitions for 4 sets), 40 minutes of heavy resistance lifting (80-90% of 1 RM x 3-8 repetitions x 3 sets), and a control interval.
All forms of exercise increased the metabolic rate immediately after exertion. For circuit training and heavy resistance lifting, the metabolism increase was also significant 30 minutes after exertion. The absolute total increment in caloric use after exertion was comparable among circuit training, heavy lifting, and cycling. However, cycling alone was far less than both forms of weight training.
EDIT: This is a rather short study....so
When one actually examines calories burned during the post-exercise period it is relatively small. Some people believe that the EPOC effect is sufficiently small and that it does not have a major role in the control of weight loss by itself. I dont agree when one considers the entire picture.
IF you combine EPOC and the entire exercise session with proper diet--this combination--increases calories burned--and CAN increase weight loss--with proper diet.
There are several things which influence EPOC: (resynthesis of creatine phosphate in muscle, lactate removal, restoration of muscle and blood oxygen stores, elevated body temperature, post exercise elevation of heart rate and breathing, elevated hormones, and so on and so forth, etc).
I pulled this from one of my OneNote sections: (I dont recall the source)
In one study researchers examined the post-exercise oxygen consumption of strength training exercise to increase metabolism. (Lets save the metabolism debate, shall we
)Metabolic rate was measured for nine subjects after 40 minutes of cycling (80percent of maximal heart rate), 40 minutes of circuit training (50% of individuals' 1 RM x 15 repetitions for 4 sets), 40 minutes of heavy resistance lifting (80-90% of 1 RM x 3-8 repetitions x 3 sets), and a control interval.
All forms of exercise increased the metabolic rate immediately after exertion. For circuit training and heavy resistance lifting, the metabolism increase was also significant 30 minutes after exertion. The absolute total increment in caloric use after exertion was comparable among circuit training, heavy lifting, and cycling. However, cycling alone was far less than both forms of weight training.
EDIT: This is a rather short study....so
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