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I want to lose 20 pounds and I thought that fruit is good for you. Anyway a friend told me today that not all fruit are good for weight loss..especially grapes (which I LOVE) are a no-no because they have too much sugar or something.
Is that correct? Are there some fruit that are better for weight loss and some that aren't so good?
Thanks,
 
Could you list the amount of fruit that you eat in a day?

Aim for about 2 portions of fruit a day (Up to 3 portions maybe) and eat as much veg as you can. A good balance is two portions of fruit and 3 portions of veg minimum.

It is true some fruits have more sugar but the sugar in fruits is all fructose as far as I know....
 
Well today for example I had about 150 grams of grapes, a couple of figs and an apple. I usually have 2 or 3 pieces of fruit a day.
 
not all fructoses. Dont be afraid of fruit just because of the carbs, at the end of the day it comes down to cals inn vs cals out, so aslong as you have a calorie deflict you wont gain weight from fruit.
Fruit is also very healthy, lots of vitamins and good nutritiens for you, throwing it away just because it has some carbs is sacrifising more than you gain.
 
I agree completely. Dont be afraid of Fruit. Fruit contains simple sugar carbs, which tend to raise the blood sugar rather quickly and give one a quick access to energy. While Complex carbs like from oatmeal, Good Whole Grain breads, are slow releasing carbs, and dont raise the blood sugar as quickly.

When dieting to lose fat weight, the law of energy balance is the most important and applicable equation to be concerned with. At the end of the day, this main factor is the one that will determine if you loss of tissue.

As a general rule, however, you should eat fruit during the day when your active and going about your daily routine (and like one item in a post workout), and complex carbs throughout the day. Carbs are NOT the enemy they serve a very important function to the body and in many ways are CRITICAL to the body's health and well being.

The sugar that is EVIL is refined white sugar. Stay away from this like it has herpes complex or some other type of disease that will make your arms fall off.

Best regards


Chillen
 
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Some interesting read on Simple sugars (like in Fruit and some info on complex carbs)..........Just some food for the MIND MUSCLE.

Fruit is GOOD..........EAT IT. But this info below can give one some basic information on how the body manages carbs......to a degree.

This is one repuatable persons viewpoint.


Simple Sugars- Good or Bad?

When carbohydrates - "Simple" monosaccharides (Glucose or blood sugar/Fructose or fruit sugar), disaccharides (sucrose or table sugar & lactose or milk sugar), "complex or starchy" polysaccharides (glucose, grains, potatoes, pasta, rice, cereal, whole wheat breads etc), "Fibrious" polysaccharides (vegetables) are digested in the intestines, they are changed by specific enzymes back into their original simple sugar form, called "Glucose."

Carbohydrates closer in structure (simple sugar) to glucose are digested faster because there is less nutrient molecules to breakdown. This is what we call a High Glycemic Index or a high simple glucose content. For example, certain fresh fruit without skin, sweet refined foods, bleached white-flour foods, most low fat foods, and canned fruit in syrup/ sauces have a high simple glucose content. Most processed foods are refined carbohydrates. The processing changes their molecular structure, robbing them of nutrients and taste. Sugar and nutrients are chemically added to revive taste and molecular structure.

Carbohydrates not processed are more in their natural state and are digested slower. They have a more complex sugar molecular structure that is difficult to breakdown, meaning they have a Low Glycemic Index (like most starches and vegetables). Complex carbohydrates with greater fiber content (whole wheat or whole grain types, some types of fresh fruit with skin) are even harder to breakdown and are digested even slower. Their Glycemic Index rating is even lower, and both contain an abundance of natural nutrients.

However, during the digestion of all carbohydrates in the intestine, enzymes change them back to their original Glucose form. The pancreas then releases the hormone "Insulin," which activates the storage enzyme "Glycogen Synthase". This enzyme changes glucose to "Glycogen" and then stores it in the respective places (muscle and liver cells, along with all other living cells).

When blood sugar level depletes, you feel hungry and consume a balanced meal to replenish blood sugar along with many other essential nutrients. If this meal consists of low fat foods, sweet sugar-laden foods, refined bleached white flour foods (high glycemic index foods), no veggies or protein, or very little of each-- the assimilation and digestion of these types of foods is extremely fast. The refined carbohydrates are converted to glucose quickly, rapidly filling the intestine with glucose.

How Does This Affect You?
This Glucose entering the digestive tract lacks nutrients. Consequently, it cannot be used by the body. High levels of glucose are also very toxic to the pancreas and kidneys. The pancreas reacts by overproducing "Insulin" to get rid of the glucose as fast as possible. Insulin over-production inhibits the function of "Glycogen Synthase", which then cannot direct all glucose to healthy cells, therefore glucose will be directed to fat cells. Excess Insulin produced by the pancreas will find sugar to store even after the meal has been completely digested. This causes sugar from the blood to be stored, resulting in residual low blood sugar after about 30-45 minutes. Consequently your blood sugar is not maintained, and you will have sugar cravings, some excess insulin (if any) can be converted and stored as fat in fat cells.

Consuming foods poor in essential nutrients will not satisfy your nutritional requirements or your blood sugar. Being nutritionally unsatisfied, you feel that hungry sugar craving sooner than the normal 3-3½ hours. This leads to that so-called "sugar addiction" or "carbohydrate addiction" syndrome.

What Happens Next?
Consume a similar meal consisting of High-sugar foods, and guess what happens? The process repeats itself and your fat cells are filled with more low quality un-usable sugar. Your pancreas again over-produces insulin above what is required. Blood sugar is lower, sugar cravings increase, and the entire process is likely to repeat. The consequence is weight gain. Dieters usually experience this process and gain the weight lost and more (typical Yo-Yo dieting syndrome).

Repeat this again, and you will continue to "get fatter" on Low-Fat, High Sugar, Low Nutrient Food Products. Include inactivity, and diets that restrict calories, and another hormone, Glucagon, which is responsible for releasing fat, recognizes and counter balances this. How? By not releasing fat, enabling the body to have an energy reserve for Homestatis, since there is a lack of energy (glucose) from the restricted calorie diet.

Other enzymes can also convert glycogen stored in muscle cells to glucose when there is insufficient energy from poor food choices. Your body has these mechanisms to provide energy for it’s metabolic processes. This can put more blood sugar in the intestines, causing insulin release. Insulin can store some of this glucose in fat cells to conserve energy because of the low calorie diet. Excess Insulin produced by the pancreas can be stored as fat (don’t encourage this).

The key is balancing each meal with quality low glycemic index food choices. It will result in slow digestion and release of glucose, which avoids wild Insulin production and will not inhibit the function of enzyme Synthase. These foods also provide the necessary nutrients, balance blood sugar, and improve the digestive process, your health, life and metabolism.

Balanced Meal = Lean Protein + Complex or Starchy Carbohydrate + Fibrous (vegetable) Carbohydrate.

Eat Simple Carbohydrates (fruit) in moderation early in the day along with, but after a well-balanced meal.
 
ROCK ON WITH THE FRUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In OUR Pursuit we Salute the Fruit and we are not wearing a Sailor Suite
So UpRoot your all Business Root and Combat Boots when training and include the FRUIT!


ROCK THE HELL ON!!!!!!!!!!
 
I'd say just keep it in moderation, and don't neglect adding veggies into the mix, as they are equally if not more important.
 
I agree completely. Dont be afraid of Fruit. Fruit contains simple sugar carbs, which tend to raise the blood sugar rather quickly and give one a quick access to energy. While Complex carbs like from oatmeal, Good Whole Grain breads, are slow releasing carbs, and dont raise the blood sugar as quickly.

Thats actually incorrect, simple and complex carbs dont predict the GI, in fact, almost all fruits have a low GI under 55 such as banana's apples etc.

I agree though absolutely continue to eat fruits, whoever says otherwise has a peanut for a brain :eek:
 
Complex carbs are released slowly and DO NOT raise the blood as quickly (getting educated on the difference would be a good thing for you) :)

While there ares SOME fruit, that are not as close as the other as far as how quickly it gets released, on average......simple sugar from most fruit...raise sugar levels..........FASTER than complex carbs.

Carbs from Oatmeal are released more slowly than carbs from an orange or Banana.......This is pretty basic

Complex carbs are the better choice---when considering to stablize the blood sugar and to try to prevent spikes---as spikes and drops CAN cause hunger, in contrast to when its not stable and there are rises and drops..... This is pretty basic

But the OP's purpose was to ask if Fruit was okay. And, yes it is fine to eat on a diet. The blood sugar issue (of which I am correct on), is for another thread.
 
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no, (perhaps you need to be educated, ideally not from the internet) :)

Have a read of this simple article i found for you ;)

"The glycemic index was also used to dispel the myth that simple carbohydrates are nutritionally less dense, cause a high blood sugar response and should be avoided. That is not true since fruits are mostly simple carbohydrates but are very nutritious and some have low glycemic index like grapefruit, apple and pear. Complex carbohydrates such as breads, pasta and grains were said to produce a low more controlled blood sugar response and thus thought to have low a glycemic index. This again isn't true. These foods mentioned elicit a high blood glucose level and thus have a high glycemic index"
 
"Foods with high GIs include white breads, breakfast cereals, potatoes, snacks and desserts made with refined flour products. Whole grain breads, cereals, brown rice, oatmeal, some fruits( like straw berries )and vegetables, beans and legumes are lower in GI and considered healthier choices. "

One has to remember that in the fruit group, that all fruit are not equal, like strawberries, which provide a lower response, but in general like with an orange......(its a higher response than oatmeal, and one is fruit (simple carb), and the other a complex carb). Matt have common sense..
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Remember the tomato is a fruit not a veggie item (and is low in bodily response), though its used on salads. What I was referring to is the norm fruit we most eat. And these are great for a diet.

We both agree that Fruit is good. And this is what the OP wanted to know in the first place.

Best wishes.







Lets not hijack the OP's thread.

If you want a full forum debate on the complex carb v simple carb and its effects on blood sugar.......open another thread.

This is my last response.
 
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Have common sense?

your the one claiming "Complex carbs are released slowly and DO NOT raise the blood as quickly"

No need to write a massive response attempting to claim top status and as if i said something incorrect. If you still dont believe what i originally disagreed upon then make the time to speak to a dietician..

im glad that is your last response :rolleyes:
 
This is a crazy thread, cutting out grapes to lose weight? Keep the fruit and throw out the fatty processed stuff.

I think when people start to get picky over things like the sugar content in fruit it's a little like the captain of the Titanic taking time out from stearing the ship to straighten out the table napkins.
 
This is a crazy thread, cutting out grapes to lose weight? Keep the fruit and throw out the fatty processed stuff.

I think when people start to get picky over things like the sugar content in fruit it's a little like the captain of the Titanic taking time out from stearing the ship to straighten out the table napkins.

My question wasn't whether fruit is better than 'fatty processed stuff'..that goes without saying:)
It was whether some fruit are better for weight loss than some other fruit.
 
I want to lose 20 pounds and I thought that fruit is good for you. Anyway a friend told me today that not all fruit are good for weight loss..especially grapes (which I LOVE) are a no-no because they have too much sugar or something.
Is that correct? Are there some fruit that are better for weight loss and some that aren't so good?
Thanks,

If his argument is based on too much sugar he doesnt know what his talking about, all fruits have sugar....the body works best and needs sugar in the diet.

Fruits shouldnt be the make it or break it either, that burden should be on your other foods, although picking fruits with low GI's such as banana's, apples, and pears would be a little more beneficial than something like watermelon which has a high/mod GI.
 
If his argument is based on too much sugar he doesnt know what his talking about, all fruits have sugar....the body works best and needs sugar in the diet.

Fruits shouldnt be the make it or break it either, that burden should be on your other foods, although picking fruits with low GI's such as banana's, apples, and pears would be a little more beneficial than something like watermelon which has a high/mod GI.

My arguement was never on the ISSUE--alone-- of natural fruit sugar. Fruits are good for the diet. AND, yes, the body needs simple and complex carbs for its energy (carbs are converted, LOL). And, lets not forget, that the body is so efficient, that if enough carbs are not present, and protein is, it WILL convert protein into a source of energy. We dont want this now do we? Therefore, for this reason (and many other beneficial factors), we do need to consume carbs in the diet.

I do know what I am talking about, and my previous posts, prove the same. Fruits do not make or break a diet.

Whether there is a deficit or surplus of calories, surely will however--dependent upon the goals of the person.

Yes, consume fruit. This is the bottom line. Get a variety and dont be overally concerned with the GI index. Be MORE concerned with overall nutrients and-------calorie consumption.
 
oh i know i know:cool::)
 
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