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OK here is the deal I am 24 5'1 and 135, I have the build of a gymnast pettie with thick legs/ hips/ butt, broad sholders and nice size arms. I am currently doing 45-60 cardio, on a good diet and supplements from 24 hour. I lost about 15 lbs in 2 1/2 months but only 1 pant size. My goal is too loose 2 more pant sizes and/or 15 lbs, the size is really what matters not the pounds. What I am wanting to do is really redefine my muscular legs and arms. I am not sure what exactly I should be doing because everyone tells me different crap. I usually do lunges, squats, leg lifts, pushups, dips and sit ups at my house after I do cardio. Does this sound right or what else should I be doing? Please help. :confused:
 
A full body strength training routine 3x would help I think. I've been working out from The New Rules of Lifting by Lou Schuler and Alwyn Cosgrove and have been liking the results. I'd recommend taking a look at it.
 
For definition you want to use low weight and high reps. Isolation exercises with negatives works wonders. Take biceps for instance, one arm curl is a great isolation exercise. When you cant push that last rep out, do a few negatives. Start on the top end then slowly bring the weight down.
 
Excuse my correcting you. However, the advise you just gave is wrong. You are promising something that is referred to as a "myth". High reps/low weight does NOT "tone", "define", or help "shape" muscles in any way. That is simply not possible...
 
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Trevor M. said:
Excuse my correcting you. However, the advise you just gave is wrong. You are promising something that is referred to as a "myth". High reps/low weight does NOT "tone", "define", or help "shape" muscles in any way. That is simply not possible...
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Then what should she be doing?
 
I'm asking you. I'm no expert. You seem to know what's wrong. Include a solution if you know that someone else's advice is wrong. I want to learn.
 
lilbri said:
I am currently doing 45-60 cardio, on a good diet and supplements from 24 hour.
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Hi Lilbri, here are my two cents. Congratulations first of all for losing your first 15 pounds! That's an accomplishment in iself.

Perhaps your next step should be to incorporate weights for your strength training routine. Try maybe doing a full body workout three times per week; most people opt for weights before cardio so you don't run out of gas while doing your routine. Start with what you can handle while still keeping good form and slowly increase. Remember that lifting 'heavy' varies from person to person-what's light to some is heavy to others. Also now may be a good time to check your diet again. What is your definition of a 'good diet'. You need to include a good combination of protein/carbs/and good fats and drink plenty of water.

lilibri said:
the size is really what matters not the pounds.
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I have a slight problem with this comment, only because personally speaking my clothes vary from size zero's to size 4 even 6s. It all depends on the style and the designer. I would try maybe going by how your body 'looks' (fit, trim, less fat) rather than the size of your clothing.

Anyway, those are my two cents. Good luck...
 
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The OP hasn't been on since the 18th and has not re-posted in this thread yet. I'd like to know that she is still around before I go right out some long post.

If you want to learn start asking some questions directly. It will take quite a long time to learn much if you just follow posts.
Another good option is to start reading. Books that is, after all.
The man who does not read books has no advantage over the man that can not read them.
Mark Twain
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If you don't have the money for books. I can recommend you a few links. Although, its hard to recommend someone books/websites without a proper knowledge of their current "knowledge" level.
 
A man after my own heart. Trevor has become Philosphical!.........ROCK ON BROTHA! :)

Changing one's intracite perceptions of surrounding atmosphere can ROCK ONES WORLD!...........ROCK IT!
 
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I currently lack the ability to transport myself to a bookstore. (I don't drive)
I also don't want to buy things off of the internet. This is why I am going to study something fitness related in college to get the facts straight. But, the facts are constantly changing just like in any other science. New discoveries are constantly surfacing. When it comes to knowledge, no, I do not know the intricate details of the chemical processes in the body (You may). But I do have a basic idea of how stuff works. I wanted to hear your opinion on what should be done, not necessarily the fact. I already know that high weight with low reps is effective for fat loss. I wanted to hear your opinion on it. I think you get where I'm going here...

So, the next time I have a chance to go to a bookstore, I'll see if I can get some books on the topic.

Have a nice day :)
 
Funny, statistically speaking, the Internet is many times safer to shop from then any physical store.

I know many people who got their entire education (in terms of nutrition/fitness) from college. Not one would I consider very smart. The school system will not teach you enough to be considered an "expert". Relying solely on that will surely leave you with an improper education on the subject.

Also, NO book store will have any proper books on the subjects. Only fad books that are not worth their price.

Let me go be all "Philosophical" again.
I have never let my schooling interfere with my education.
Mark Twain
Never let formal education get in the way of your learning.
Mark Twain
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I hope your day goes well as well. :)
 
Trevor M. said:
Funny, statistically speaking, the Internet is many times safer to shop from then any physical store.
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Interesting.

Maybe it's because I live in Canada - but I don't think I've every felt it was ' less safe ' to buy books from an actual store I could visit vs the internet

When you say the internet is " safer " - " safer " in what way ?

Trevor M. said:
I know many people who got their entire education (in terms of nutrition/fitness) from college. Not one would I consider very smart. The school system will not teach you enough to be considered an "expert".
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So, I assume are you saying that to be an " expert " in nutrition/fitness, you need an excellent academic/professional grounding - as a minimum I would think - plus .........' something else '.

What would that ' something else ' be in your view ?

For example, would you consider Dr. John Berardi an expert in sports nutrition ?

Trevor M. said:
Relying solely on that will surely leave you with an improper education on the subject.Also, NO book store will have any proper books on the subjects. Only fad books that are not worth their price.
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Where do you suggest one finds " proper " books then - from university bookstores ? Websites ?
 
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The funny thing is Trevor was right.

You lose fat by eating less than you burn. That's it, eat less or burn more. Muscle definition comes from not having fat covering up your muscles, though of course a bit of muscle mass to begin with is needed.

Much of the techniques used by fitness people just aren't what they'll teach you in college. They'll probably teach you very little that is useful.

Most books on the subject are on the wonders of power walking or pilates, how to get in great shape in 4 weeks, or some other stuff along the lines, it's supposed to make people believe they can reach their goals without doing any hard work, because that's what sells. Other books are meant for average people, describing how their body and health works, and with some good tips on how to become more healthy. They're not wrong, but they're just not enough for those that don't just want to be average and healthy.

The real stuff just isn't scientifically well described or acknowledged or it's very new, so it's not in the college curriculums, and it's too hard work to be interesting for the mass market. The books that do have proper info have too narrow a market to hit most physical book stores. You can order those books on the internet, or you can learn from various websites or forums, or you can get a proper personal trainer in your area. I guess there must be some good personal trainer courses too.
 
Wrangell said:
Interesting.

Maybe it's because I live in Canada - but I don't think I've every felt it was ' less safe ' to buy books from an actual store I could visit vs the internet

When you say the internet is " safer " - " safer " in what way ?
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Hmm, maybe if you read the post I was referring to you would understand.
I also don't want to buy things off of the Internet.
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The majority of people who say that believe it is some how "less safe" - in terms of "identity theft", being "riped off", not getting what they ordered and so on.

Obviously, had you read Pumpkins post, you wouldn't have to have asked that.


Wrangell said:
So, I assume are you saying that to be an " expert " in nutrition/fitness, you need an excellent academic/professional grounding - as a minimum I would think - plus .........' something else '.

What would that ' something else ' be in your view ?

For example, would you consider Dr. John Berardi an expert in sports nutrition ?
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This doesn't even make sense.
Apparently, you didn't read anything before you posted this.
Oh, and you forgot to place the "Ph.D" after his name. Beyond that, why do you ask?

Anyway, did I use the words "something else"? As your placing "" around them as If I said that. Hmm, I didn't say that in your quote. :)

Back to the point. I suppose your arguing that graduating the college school system instantly makes them an "expert"? Haha - that's to funny!
Right, like being certified as a C-Pt makes someone and expert! lol

Self education on the subjects > School system education on the topics. I don't think any "expert" in the industry would disagree with that.


Wrangell said:
Where do you suggest one finds " proper " books then - from university bookstores ? Websites ?
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No "barns&nobles" or any popular book store will hold any solid book on the subject of human biology, human anatomy, chemistry, physiology, mechanics, nutrition, fitness, cardiovascular training, skeletal muscular training, and so on.


Anyway, besides asking completely pointless questions. What did you intend to accomplish in this post directed at me?
 
Nicolasd said:
The funny thing is Trevor was right.

You lose fat by eating less than you burn. That's it, eat less or burn more. Muscle definition comes from not having fat covering up your muscles, though of course a bit of muscle mass to begin with is needed.

Much of the techniques used by fitness people just aren't what they'll teach you in college. They'll probably teach you very little that is useful.

Most books on the subject are on the wonders of power walking or pilates, how to get in great shape in 4 weeks, or some other stuff along the lines, it's supposed to make people believe they can reach their goals without doing any hard work, because that's what sells. Other books are meant for average people, describing how their body and health works, and with some good tips on how to become more healthy. They're not wrong, but they're just not enough for those that don't just want to be average and healthy.

The real stuff just isn't scientifically well described or acknowledged or it's very new, so it's not in the college curriculums, and it's too hard work to be interesting for the mass market. The books that do have proper info have too narrow a market to hit most physical book stores. You can order those books on the internet, or you can learn from various websites or forums, or you can get a proper personal trainer in your area. I guess there must be some good personal trainer courses too.
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All I have to say is. Rep+ to most of this post.
 
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