Well...if im gonna do this...

[Darth Pooh]

Was he saying the workout was too long or too short?

Way too short he said, almost made a joke about how I won't achieve anything doing it that way (80 lbs later he is obviously mistaken). I spend about 20-25 minutes doing basic lifts (and it has helped me tremendously in maintaining muscle mass while losing the fat). However, yesterday was about 20 minutes because I was doing abs only (TUES / THURS is ab days where I let the body recover from M/W/F basic lift day). Then I headed over to the cardio vascular lab where I did about 45 minutes on the row, elliptical and treadmill for interval training.

 

[Steve]

Haha, it's nice when you let your actions and results shut people up, isn't it.

 

[gpucci]

You were dieting.

Nobody bulks up while dieting.

To add, your n=1 experience means very little, especially when comparing across sexes.

You are splitting hairs on the definition of dieting. Working out was in CONJUNCTION w/ my diet. A lot of people use the term "diet" as a lifestyle change which includes both working out, an eating better.. If thats what you are getting at than

My routine when starting again was;

Run 20 mins starting at 6mph (moved up .1 mph per week until toppnig out at about 8mph which is where I am currently)

After running I would lift, and alternate chest/back/shoulders/arms/legs, but would do abs 2 days in a row, and one day off than two days and so on.

I would up the weight in my lifting by 5lbs each week on each body part until I got to the size I wanted to. Now I still work out but I only progress if the weight does nothing after 10 reps (meaning I don't feel a burn at all).

So call what I did what you will. If I was wrong in what I called it than whatever lol.. I got my desired result, and I gained muscle mass, and I did it in conjunction w/ eating less.

I could go into threads where people say "I could care less" and say "Don't you mean I COULDN'T care less?" Why should I? I know what they mean when they say it.

 

[Steve]

You are splitting hairs on the definition of dieting.

Oh, thanks for telling me what I'm doing.

And FYI, I was not splitting hairs.

If your goal was to lose weight, and you did lose weight, that means you were in a net energy deficit. When I say diet, that's what I mean. I don't care if you want to call it a lifestyle modification, a temporary thing.... whatever.

Working out was in CONJUNCTION w/ my diet.

Haha, ya, I kind of figured this.

A lot of people use the term "diet" as a lifestyle change which includes both working out, an eating better.. If thats what you are getting at than

I have no idea where any of this is coming from, sorry.

I would up the weight in my lifting by 5lbs each week on each body part until I got to the size I wanted to.

Were you tracking body fat % and if so, how?

And were you taking measurements? If so, how?

Now I still work out but I only progress if the weight does nothing after 10 reps (meaning I don't feel a burn at all).

Just my advice, which you probably don't want.... but I wouldn't let the 'burn' be the metric used to determine when you should increase weight.

So call what I did what you will. If I was wrong in what I called it than whatever lol.. I got my desired result, and I gained muscle mass, and I did it in conjunction w/ eating less.

Here's the crux of my confusion.

I simply told you that it's stupid to compare your experience to that of a dieting woman.

I never contested the idea that you went about things incorrectly. Great for you that you reached your goals. But that has nothing to do with what I said to you.

So,

And again, how do you know you gained all this muscle?

 

[gpucci]

Oh, thanks for telling me what I'm doing.

I was just pointing out that a lot of people come here for advice, and what works for one person might not work for another. You were telling a lot of people they were wrong when they were giving their opinion on what they think works, or what workd for them.

Were you tracking body fat % and if so, how?

And were you taking measurements? If so, how?

My best friend (who is female) worked out with me and has lost approx 30lbs while doing the same thing I am doing since we both started in September. Not sure on her measurements outside her waist. She is a Physical Therapist, and I am a Pharmacist (we work in the same hosp). She has been helping me, and monitoring me since my rotator cuff surg I had a couple years back. She's not be any means a nutritionist, and we used pretty much judgement in our eating, but from the start we have been changing our lifestyle (i.e. dieting/working out/running) since the beginning. We both were eating lunch one day together and just decided to make a plan for both of us that we could both stick to.

But fat% wasn't tracking that. Measurements we were.

Just my advice, which you probably don't want.... but I wouldn't let the 'burn' be the metric used to determine when you should increase weight.

Basically was trying to say if it was too easy for me than I knew I should "up" the weight a bit. This is after I had lost the weight I wanted to (although I am still about 4lbs off my goal. But I do have the definition I want at this point) This was the whole issue which I agreed with you when you don't want to do a ton of reps w/ low weight. I did want to gain mass as well as lose weight. I was on a program which worked for me weight wise where I wouldn't re-injure my shoulder.

Here's the crux of my confusion.

I simply told you that it's stupid to compare your experience to that of a dieting woman.

I never contested the idea that you went about things incorrectly. Great for you that you reached your goals. But that has nothing to do with what I said to you.

She's the PT so maybe I should tell her to come to the forum so she can explain things. I am no expert on any of this. But wokout wise we did the same type of workout w/ the exception of myself increasing in weight more so than she did. She works with a lot of people that haveweight issues who want to strengthen specific areas of their body following surgeries. She was the one to give me the info on weight loss, and strength training.

And again, how do you know you gained all this muscle?

Measurments. Not hat I had gained a ton of mass, but I have gained to the point where I was back in College when I played BBall.

 

[Steve]

What were your pre and post measurement?

You seem to be thinking I'm contesting something I'm not... and I don't have the time, nor patience to explain myself. Nothing against you.

 

[gpucci]

Sent you a PM..

 

[ShareeC]

In kind response to Darth Pooh's comment, I was simply sharing about my experience with Pilates. I do not understand how this became an accusation of quote "Clever Spam", unquote.

I thought this forum was all about sharing, supporting and encouraging. I am sorry if I offended you and in no way meant for my thread to be what you perceived it to be.

ShareeC

 

[Darth Pooh]

In kind response to Darth Pooh's comment, I was simply sharing about my experience with Pilates. I do not understand how this became an accusation of quote "Clever Spam", unquote.

I thought this forum was all about sharing, supporting and encouraging. I am sorry if I offended you and in no way meant for my thread to be what you perceived it to be.

ShareeC

You're right, it was an accusation, because with two posts into this forum I had only seen you talk about Pilates and I've seen that type of clever spam before.

This forum is about all that... very true. I wasn't offended though and neither should you. It isn't all that serious in life to be worrying about what someone on the internet thinks about you... Just sayin'.