Weight gain

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Hey guys!! Im new here and this is prolly a stupid question, but I kinda wanna be big muscled, with a tight stomach. I am 6 foot 1" 182-184 pounds. I workout every Monday-Friday for 60 min. on ellypticals, and 30 min muscle worouts tues. thurs. Sooo do I even need weight gain? Btw my calorie intake is about 1500-2300 Calories a day.
 
Hey guys!! Im new here

Welcome to the forum! I wish you the best. I think you will find a few friends here, and an atmosphere you will most likely enjoy.


and this is prolly a stupid question, but I kinda wanna be big muscled, with a tight stomach. I am 6 foot 1" 182-184 pounds. I workout every Monday-Friday for 60 min. on ellypticals, and 30 min muscle worouts tues. thurs. Sooo do I even need weight gain? Btw my calorie intake is about 1500-2300 Calories a day

I think the best approach is to have YOU determine whether the caloric figures you provided are in deed correct for your hgt, age, wgt, and gender.

And here is this information:


The road to potentially bulking:


The road to your goal, is gaining knowledge of calories and nutrition within a diet proportioned to your age, wgt, hgt, and gender, which includes associated activities.

Then developing a scheduled training plan per week (which allows recuperation time) that compliments---a clean diet. When both are developed, then the key is consistency and then watching, looking, and being very mindful, of your bodily responses to your diet and training stimulus.



Surplus dieting is the MAIN thing that does the job.

Some Basic information that can lead you to weight tissue gain

Calorie calculation is an approximation science, remember this. Through your journey WATCH, LOOK, and LISTEN, to your body..........it will TELL YOU if your doing the correct things or combination of things!


○ Change your eating habits (below are some suggestion examples)

○ Substitute an artificial sweetener of your choice in the replace of refined white sugar (Refrain from Refined Sugar like you would a disease)

○ Try eating 5 to 6 smaller meals during the day

○ Balance your meals out during the day so in one day you have a mix of protein, carbohydrate and good fats

○ Drink lots of water during the day and before, during and after exercise

○ Simple Carb Examples: Grapefruit, Watermelon, Cantaloupe, Strawberries, Oranges, Apples, Pineapple, etc

○ Complex Carb Examples: Whole Wheat Pita Bread, Oatmeal, Long Grain Brown Rice, Brown Pasta, Malto-Meal (Plain, whole wheat),etc

○ Good Protein Examples: White or Dark Tuna, Chicken Breast, Lean Turkey, Lean Ham, Very lean Beef, Quality Whey Protein Powder,, etc

○ Good Fats Examples: Natural Peanut Butter, Various Nuts, Flax Seed, Fish Oils.

This is what you need to do:

This an approximation science, but you can narrow it down very close, if your meticulous in your vision when looking at the data.

Tweak your desire and passion by educating yourself on the basic requirements of losing fat tissue. With your age, sex, height, and weight, in mind, find your approximated base calorie needs (this is organ function, breathing, or bodily function needs). One can use the Benedict Formula.

Calculate your BMR:

The Harris Benedict equation determines calorie needs for men or woman as follows:

• It calculates your Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) calorie requirements, based on your height, weight, age and gender.

• It increases your BMR calorie needs by taking into account the number of calories you burn through activities such as exercise.

This gives you your total calorie requirement or approximated Maintenance Line (I call it the MT Line).

Step One : Calculate your BMR with the following formula:

•Women: BMR = 655 + (4.35 x weight in pounds) + (4.7 x height in inches) - (4.7 x age in years)
•Men: BMR = 66 + (6.23 x weight in pounds) + (12.7 x height in inches) - (6.8 x age in years)

Step Two : In order to incorporate activity into your daily caloric needs, do the following calculation:

•If you are sedentary : BMR x 1.2
•If you are lightly active: BMR x 1.375
•If you are moderately active (You exercise most days a week.): BMR x 1.55
•If you are very active (You exercise daily.): BMR x 1.725
•If you are extra active (You do hard labor or are in athletic training.): BMR x 1.9

The calorie surplus margin is just an example:

Apply this knowledge by going over the approximated MT Line (approximated Maintenance line), say for example, a +500c per day, for about 1 week.

Before the week begins, weigh yourself in the AM when you FIRST get up (do not eat yet) (remember your clothing, preferably with just underwear and t-shirt or like clothes).

Note the time, and the approximated wgt.

Each day spread your caloric content out throughout the day (keep the body fed, with calories in the 300 to 500c approximated calories each meal), or a like division which mirrors your end caloric deficit limit (meaning MT +500c).

This way you have your entire day and body encircled with nutrition (I assume you already know to eat clean), which if your eating right, will give an approximated good energy.

At the end of the week, on the same day, the same time, with the same like clothes, weigh yourself again. Note whether you lost or gained tissue (or weight I mean).


If this didn't happen, this means you need to make finer adjustments, and the MT line is not accurate, and you need to adjust this on your own.

Based upon the FEEDBACK your body is giving you, ask yourself how faithful you were on the diet, AND how faithful in training (whether you kept the training schedule (if you didn't, this would effect the caloric equation, no?!), AND how accurate you figured in your activities caloric wise.........but, you have the base information to begin making adjustments.
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The Nutrients are an essential factor in the diet; however, the law of energy balance within the DIET, is the ultimate KING while the Nutrients can play in some decisions made within the body.

Do yourself a favor, figure out your MT line, adjust off of this, eat well balanced spaced out meals (DONT EVER starve YOURSELF), AND listen to your body for the results.

While you are trying to figure out your body, IT WILL PAY YOU BACK, I promise. You have to learn to MASTER yourself to become the master of weight loss for YOURSELF.
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"Let your inner vision cultivate your ultimate exterior expression" —Chillen

"The strongest inner feeling that prevails will result in the exterior expression" –Chillen

"Your cultivation and manifestation of thought accumulated within your reasoning will determine your outcome"----Chillen
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The most effective beginning is to look at your diet, and make a diet journal in my opinion, THEN work in a training program around this diet.

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Have controlled obsession (and obsession to a---Point, is necessary), but some lose this obsession once they learn the amount of work it requires. There eyes then widen and then the obsession then pops right out. Dont let this happen to you: Raise your Want-o-Meter to a new higher level.

Best Regards,


Chillen
 
thanks!!

Thanks for the warm welcome!!! Yeah that is a lot to take in to read at the moment but lemme see if I did this correctly.

If you are moderately active (You exercise most days a week.): BMR x 1.55

Mine came out to be 2641.975 after all multiplications. Does that mean I need 2641.975 Calories a day do gain tissue? Also. Is it possible, at this much calories and working out, to build mucle while losing stomach weight? Cuz I have a light 4 pack that shows right now, not a 6 pack. My goal is for the 6 pack to show, and have big arm muscles. Im working out my body evenly dont get me wrong, but idk if I need weight gain considering I am already 184, I just weighed. So I still have fat covering my belly, but NOTHING is covering my arms. They are tone. Should I lose the belly fat first? Btw thanks for all the info, it really does help from what I can understand of it!!
 
first, that calculation is just an estimate.
second, that estimate is your daily maintenance intake...what you should eat to stay at your current weight.
increase by 10-20% to facilitate weight gain.

lastly, maintaining a 6 pack is more about your diet than training. you need to dip well below 10% body fat to have constantly visible ab muscles, and genetics plays a HUGE factor in your potential for abs that pop out in the first place.
 
*snip*...lastly, maintaining a 6 pack is more about your diet than training. you need to dip well below 10% body fat to have constantly visible ab muscles, and genetics plays a HUGE factor in your potential for abs that pop out in the first place.

I blame my dad for my near impossibility to lose the only fat on my body that camps out around my abs :mad: :yelrotflmao:

P.S. I'm new here too, I'm hoping to learn alot here!
 
"bump" Brazil are you still with us? :)

I wil answer you questions, I have a few other posts to make to.......trying to get caught up......I have forgot the "Brotha!"
 
yup

lol yep im still with yall. Sorry I forget to get all my stuff done sometimes. Yeahh ive gotten lazy this week. Im trying to get on a great balanced healthy food, and its hard. Everything I find has saturated and poly, and mono fats and stuff. And now to top it off I gotta start watching my blood sugar level. Its hard to find the right stuff to eat. I weigh 185 and have some stomach weight to shed so ima try to eat healthy small portions,a nd try to lose the fat before I consider gaining more weight. I might like my size after I lose the weight. Any suggestions on healthy foods that are balanced on what you need? I usually eat chicken from banquet brand at wal mart. Its cheap stuff in a bag, so it last longer.
 
lol yep im still with yall. Sorry I forget to get all my stuff done sometimes. Yeahh ive gotten lazy this week. Im trying to get on a great balanced healthy food, and its hard. Everything I find has saturated and poly, and mono fats and stuff. And now to top it off I gotta start watching my blood sugar level. Its hard to find the right stuff to eat. I weigh 185 and have some stomach weight to shed so ima try to eat healthy small portions,a nd try to lose the fat before I consider gaining more weight. I might like my size after I lose the weight. Any suggestions on healthy foods that are balanced on what you need? I usually eat chicken from banquet brand at wal mart. Its cheap stuff in a bag, so it last longer.

An example of what to eat is within my post I made to you. My understanding was that you were trying to gain weight and pack on a little muscle.

Dont be misguided by fats. PolyUnsat and MonoUnsat fats are good to have in the diet---up to about 30%. For example, Nat. Peanut Butter is loaded with the good fats I just mentioned, and its one food I consider a power food to have apart of ones diet: Fats play a crucial role in fat loss and weight gain in my opinion.

Saturated fats are a different story. These TOO are needed but to a FAR LESS degree (a very little amount), and once this necessary amount is exceeded, then it can become unhealthy.

For example Almonds, they have the good fats, but also contain a small amount of Sats; as does Salmon. Both Salmon and Almonds are fantastic foods to consume and be apart of a diet.


Do be very careful with Sats, in my opinion, but do allow the good fats in your diet.....by all means you cant go wrong.......just have a good percentage.

Fats can be the most misunderstood nutrient in ones diet, and in "years" past they have been given a bad name-----but they are not bad....."thank god..........Because I LOVE my Natty Peanut Butter, LOL"
 
Lol yeah I saw what you had put before, but I just didnt know what foods were good for everyday eating due to the fact that I forgot to mention I have high blood sugar levels. But I also didnt know if all those fats were good, I didnt know the difference in them. I coulda forgot everything you wrote in that huge post. I have a lot to remember in my life right now lol. So where can I get natural peanut butter? Or is that the same ones at stores and stuff? Would it be good to eat before and after a workout? Sorry if youve already stated this, i cant read the previous one bc im typing a message in a single window and am in a hurry. I usually eat a turkey wrap with miracle whip or chicken nuggets before a workout, and a peanut butter sandwich or chicken nuggets with carrots or broccoli after a workout.
 
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