trying to bulk up my 230 pound frame.less weights? heavier weights??

peterock29

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hi everyone have another question for the experts.as stated before i recently lost about 40 pounds and now id like to bulk up more.ive always had a broad physique.i have a 46 inch chest and im thick.i sit at 6'2 230 pounds now.id like to have more muscle mass and definition in my upper half (chest, arms,shoulders).whats the best way to do this as far as what to use??weight training with heavier weights or lighter weights?more reps?less reps? days off in between? id love some input here any and all information is much appreciated thanx
 
hi everyone have another question for the experts.as stated before i recently lost about 40 pounds and now id like to bulk up more.ive always had a broad physique.i have a 46 inch chest and im thick.i sit at 6'2 230 pounds now.id like to have more muscle mass and definition in my upper half (chest, arms,shoulders).whats the best way to do this as far as what to use??weight training with heavier weights or lighter weights?more reps?less reps? days off in between? id love some input here any and all information is much appreciated thanx

Well first thing that stands out to me is your mentioning of wanting more muscle mass and definition in your upper body.

Realize that to add muscle, generally, you need to be in a caloric surplus. And when in a surplus, you're going to add *some* fat. So getting definition during this time is unlikely.

Getting defined generally is what happens towards the end of a "cut" or diet which is a time period where you should be focusing on preserving as much muscle as possible to magnify the definition you're shooting for.

There are endless ways to add muscle mass though via weights. The nut of it is a matter of lifting heavy enough to overload what your muscles are accustomed to with sufficient volume.

My favorite way of structuring things for growth is a 4 day per week split that looks something like:

Monday: Upper - heavy horizontal, light vertical
Tuesday: Lower - heavy quad dominant, light posterior chain dominant
Thursday: Upper - heavy vertical, light horizontal
Friday: Lower - heavy posterior chain dominant, light quad dominant

To give examples of exercises for each:

heavy horizontal = chest/shoulders and back = flat bench and chest supported rows

light vertical = shoulders/chest and back = db overhead presses or incline db presses and cable pulldowns

heavy quad = squats of all sorts (back squats, front squats, unilateral work, box squats, etc)

light ham = pullthroughs, SHELCs, romanians, unilateral work, etc

heavy vertical = shoulder/chest and back = bb overhead presses or pushpresses and pendlay rows, etc

light horizontal = chest/shoulders and back = db flys or presses and db rows or cable rows

heavy ham = deads, rack pulls (my fav), etc

light quads = leg press, step ups , lunges, etc.

See the difference?

Does said difference matter? Probably not, lol.

At the end of the day if you're eating enough and adding weight to the bar, you're going to grow. However you chose to package is most likely hair splitting and going to vary in terms of benefits from individual to individual. I've just always realized my best growth using a split similar to that of which I highlighted above.

40-50 reps per large bodypart and 20-30 per small part at a frequency of twice/week is about the optimal range in general for growth

Heavy would be in the 4-6 rep range per set.

Light would be in the 10-15 rep range per set.
 
wow thanx steve for taking that time .ok what about simply adding definition to my 230 pound frame.just toning my frame a bit without necessarily adding more weight.
 
My suggestion would be 2-3 sessions of full body training each week with less volume than I noted above and less of the "light" stuff. I mean, you could get away with something as simple as:

Day 1:

Squat
Bench
Row

Day 2:

Deadlift
Pullup or Pulldown
Overhead Press

And alternate these two sticking with 3-4 sets of 4-6 reps. You can throw some smaller stuff in towards the end if you desire. I'd check out my thread here called the "conceptual side of weight training." I think it'll help you see the big picture a lot better.

On top of this, 3-6 sessions of metabolic work each week which can come in a number of packages - basically anything from your ordinary cardio using running, machines etc all the way to low weight/rest high volume weight training, otherwise known as circuit training.

In terms of diet, keeping things ridiculously simple...

- 30% deficit from maintenance or so
- 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight in your case
- 25-30% of cals from fats - primarily the good stuff
- fill in the rest of the calories as you see fit. could mean all carbs or, if you're insulin resistant or something of that nature, split it between fibrous carbs and more fats.

Again, I'm speaking in very general terms here.
 
 
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