today's sizes smaller than 10 yrs ago!

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my hubby has told me recently that he thinks that i have lost enough weight and that i should just try to maintain. i said but i am almost at my long term goal and besides i'm still only able to fit in a size 9/10, i want to fit in a 7 and then i will be happy! i have been to several stores lately and there is not a 7 out there that will fit me.

today i was going through my "skinny" clothes i have been saving in the attic which are mostly 5's and 7's from about 10 yrs ago. i'm scrounging for things to wear since all i have are 14's and 12's and they are hanging on me and i cant afford all new clothes right now. basicly been wearing sweatpants and 1 pair of jeans somebody gave me that happened to fit.

so i pull out a pair of black corduroy 7 pants and i couldnt believe they actually fit! it made me angry at the same time tho because i know by today's standards there's no way in hell! our world is getting bigger they say and now i have to be even thinner than 10 yr ago just to fit in the same size? thats SO not fair!!
 
I think you're on to something... I bet they did make clothes better than they do now. My jeans do not last ass long as they used to either. The world is just gaining up on us... it's all about society and what they think is skinny. Personally, I would be happy in a size 10..... but I have to wait patiently...
 
Yea, i think its a fact...they said if Marlynn Monroe were to wear today's sizes, she'd be in a 16!
 
Firstly,
[smack, smack, smack!] Snap out of it!

It is NOT the size you wear or the number on the scale. It is How You Look and Are You Healthy. If you look good and you are healthy- my dear You have ARRIVED!

Moreover, I think every woman on this planet can tell this story. A few years ago I had pants sized 6 through 12 and they ALL fit. This is why guys can pull a size off the rack and go home with it but we have to spend 6 hours in a dressing room trying to find jeans that fit!

Congratulations on your svelt success (regardless of what The Gap says)

******

Secondly,

Claim: Marilyn Monroe wore a size 16 dress.
Status: Not exactly.

Examples:
[Columbus Dispatch, 2000]
Actress/Estee Lauder spokesmodel Elizabeth Hurley was recently named "Babe of the Century'' in some poll. This apparently caused her to lose her senses, because she went on to gratuitously dump on Marilyn Monroe — who's hardly in a position to defend herself. Hurley says that the screen legend was overweight, peaking at a dress size of 16. "I've always thought Marilyn Monroe looked fabulous, but I'd kill myself if I was that fat,'' Hurley told Allure magazine in an amazingly tactless moment . . . "I went to see her clothes in the exhibition, and I wanted to take a tape measure and measure what her hips were. (laughter) She was very big."



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[Phoenix Gazette, 1996]

"I'm more sexy than Pamela Lee or whoever else they've got out [in Hollywood] these days. Marilyn Monroe was a Size 16. That says it all." — Roseanne.




Origins: The fascination with this "fact" about Marilyn Monroe's dress size is not its literal truthfulness per se, but the implication it carries: that our standards of feminine pulchritude have become so extreme that the woman who has been idolized as the world's premier sex symbol for half a century would be considered "chunky" or even "fat" by modern standards. (Conversely, some of today's celebrities seem to be fond of invoking the "fact" that Marilyn wore a size 16 dress as a means of asserting that they themselves are, if not thin, in better shape than the renowned Marilyn Monroe was.) Marilyn may (at times) have been a little heavier than today's ultra-svelte models, but the notion that she was "fat" (even by today's standards) is based on misinformation or misunderstanding.

The claim about Marilyn's dress size is difficult to prove or disprove, both because of a lack of information and because of the number of ambiguities it engenders:


Like most women, Marilyn Monroe experienced weight fluctuations as she aged, became pregnant, and went through cycles of weight gain and dieting, and so she would not have worn any one dress size, but a range of different dress sizes.

The standards for women's dress sizes have not remained constant over the years; they have changed as the size and shape of the average woman has changed. (Clothing manufacturers assume most women don't want to wear clothing of a size identified as "Large," for example, so they adjust their sizing so that the average-sized woman takes a "Medium." If the size of the average woman has increased a bit over the years, then the very same size that was a "Large" fifty years ago might be a "Medium" today. This is sort of what has happened to women's dress sizes since the 1940s: a woman who weighs more now than she did twenty years ago might actually be wearing a smaller dress size today.)

A person's overall physical contours can't necessarily be determined from a piece of his clothing. A very tall and skinny man might have to buy pants with a waist size larger than he needed in order to get the correct length of inseam, for example, and therefore inferences about his weight based solely on the waist size of his pants would probably be inaccurate. Likewise, a woman whose bust, waist, or hip measurements were unusually large or small (such as a woman with an acclaimed "hourglass" figure) might have to buy a size of dress that was not reflective of her "overall" size. (Even examining the clothing Marilyn wore in her heyday wouldn't necessarily answer the question about her dress size, since her outfits were custom-made by studio dressmakers and therefore didn't bear size tags or hew to standard industry dimensions.)

Reliable documentary evidence is tough to come by for this sort of thing. Doctors might record a patient's height and weight, but not her dress size or measurements; other citings of Ms. Monroe's size are difficult to take at face value, as their sources (e.g., studio publicity shops) are known more for exaggeration and puffery than accuracy. Additionally, weight and other size measurements are mere snapshots: a mature person's height is unlikely to change significantly, but the other numbers can vary quite a bit over time.
So, what can we say with any certainty? We can at least establish a range of measurements for Marilyn Monroe based on the available sources:

Height: 5 feet, 5½ inches
Weight: 118-140 pounds
Bust: 35-37 inches
Waist: 22-23 inches
Hips: 35-36 inches
Bra size: 36D



A woman of Marilyn's height, at the extreme of Marilyn's weight range (140 lbs), would probably wear a size 12 dress today (which is the same dress size listed for Marilyn in the book The Unabridged Marilyn). Perhaps at one time she did wear dresses that might have been considered size 16 (or even 18) back in the 1950s, but she almost certainly did not wear dresses equivalent to today's size 16. This is borne out by citings such as the following (which might also be a source of some confusion, as a British size 16 would be the equivalent of an American size 12):
 
RED!!! i havent seen you in ages! where have you been? did you fall off the wagon? i hope your back to stay. :)

anyways are those marilyn's measurements?

Height: 5 feet, 5½ inches
Weight: 118-140 pounds
Bust: 35-37 inches
Waist: 22-23 inches
Hips: 35-36 inches
Bra size: 36D


secondly, i cannot snap out of it - i will always be obsessed with the numbers no matter what people say! i cant help it, its like i'm so programmed to this way of thinking and have been this way for so long i dont think i can get out of this mindset. and i never remember a time when i fit in a 6 and a 12 at the same point in time. maybe a size or two, but not 6 sizes!

thank you for posting that article and also for your compliments. have missed u!
 
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