Those thin friends who should be fat...

CookieMonster1

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Anybody else have them? Whenever I mention exercise they go "ewww too much work", they eat sausages, lots of bread, bacon and chocolate and whatever other junk food there is in front of me all the time, every day. They also drink excessively on weekends. And they're not even an average weight, they're really thin, maybe about 118lbs a 5"6/5"7. They never drink water, or fruits or vegetables.

Is this metabolism differences or?
I'm confused as to why I have to do so much work while they do nothing?
There's also one who eats nothing till she goes home for tea...I'm worried about her. But if she's not eating in the day shouldn't her metabolism slow down? They challenge everything I've believed about weight!
 
Is bullshit plain and simple. Just like you see fat people who never seem to eat.
Facts dont lie, you need to eat calories to get fat, and you need to not eat as many to stay thin!

Only people i know who can eat tons of calories and not gain weight are usually teens/kids and even then not always.

I have a friend whos super thing and can never gain weight, even having some protien shake every day apparently. I secretly followed her around and watched closely what she did, and she piled her plate high, picked at things, then pushed it around, let her kids and husband take food off her plate, threw a decent portion away 'oh i don't feel like that' or 'it tastes funny' and 'its not cooked right and im fussy' etc.
Then there were the excuses like 'oh i had a big lunch so ill just have a taste' etc. Funnily enough because id heard them so many times i believed that she did indeed eat as much as she made out she did, without thinking. Just like a larger person eats more than they think and tells everyone and themselves that they dont.
Anyway, dont believe it, its bullocks. Whilst she might be eating in front of you, thats probably all they have eaten all day :)
 
Ahh thankyou. :) One of my friends has been trying to put on weight for years, but she can't seem to do it. I'll have to watch closely and see if she's doing the same thing!
 
I've posted this before, but I'll reiterate ... my answer is the same as Wishes.

Back when I was fat I had a friend who was 5'7" and maybe 110 lbs dripping wet. We worked together and used to travel together and I always got annoyed because we ate the same things and I gained weight and she didn't.

Until I actually paid attention one weekend.

On a road trip we'd stop at Steak N Shake and each order a burger and fries. I eat my whole burger and all the fries in a matter of 15 mins or so. She'd nibble on the burger, eat half of it, and throw the rest away. She'd eat about 1/3 of the fries and set them aside for "later" - and wind up throwing them away too.

We'd pick up snacks to eat at the hotel. I'd eat a snack sized bag of Cheetos while watching Tv w/out even realizing it. She'd eat 1/2 a snack sized bag and set the rest aside for "later". She'd wind up throwing it away when we checked out.


When we were at the office, we'd buy candy bars to nibble on in the afternoon. I'd eat the whole bar. She'd eat maybe 1/3, set the rest aside for later and it would sit on her desk for 2 days until she cleaned her desk and tossed it.

Me? I used to FREAK out at the idea of paying for a hamburger and then throwing half of it away. The idea of buying a candy bar taking two bites and tossing the rest? *GASP*

But the truth is that although she and I ate the same things, we didn't eat the same AMOUNTS. People who eat junk food and are skinny are just not eating as much as others. Most of them are satisfied with far less food ... they eat until they're full or until they've satisfied their craving and they're done. The don't have a problem with throwing the rest of the food away once they're full.

That's the truth of it. If you REALLY pay attention to what your skinny friends are eating, you'll see that it's true.
 
You may be right, and I don't count her calories but my wife eats junk like they're going to stop making it tomorrow and stays thin. I see everything she eats except for lunch during the week, which is normally a cafeteria lunch or fast food. It blows my mind that she's not overweight. I probably gained 5 lbs last night from the microwave brownie fumes coming from downstairs.
 
I used to be one of those types and I will tell you why. I ate a lot of junk food and never gained weight. I thought it was my metabolism (i was young and dumb). When I hit about 21 or 22 and started working full time i started to gain weight eating the same stuff. What I didnt realize was that before I worked full time I was very active. I never "worked out" but always went to the beach surfing/swimming, played football and soccer with friends. That is why I didnt gain weight. Those activities I didnt really think much about until I gained weight.
 
When I was young there was a few years when I could keep my weight reasonably slim without trying. I never did anything that I thought of as exercise and the notion of sports was foreign to me...

If anyone had asked me about exercise I would have said none...

I did love going out dancing though... I just loved to dance... If any friends were heading for a disco I would be there. I was itching to be dancing the minute that I got there and would dance all night... If none of my friends wanted to dance I used to nag them for a few records and then have enough and get up and dance by myself...

People can be very active - burn an enormous amount of calories - and consider that they have done no exercise...

I think that there are people that throw out food like the others were saying - but I have never been able to do that... I still cannot - but wish that I could...
 
Some people are also more prone to 'auto regulating'. That is, even though they don't do deliberate exercise, if they eat too many calories they fidget, move around, or whatever it is and burn off the extra calories. There are people who can burn an extra 700 calories a day just from non-exercise activity like this.

Whereas I can sit my butt in front of a computer for hours and hours eating Hint of Lime Tostitos and full-sugar Cokes without a problem :p I just have to make myself not do that any more.
 
Oh hell yeah they are! If someone left me in a room with a dozen bags of those and a dozen 2-liters of Coke and left me playing computer games... I don't know if there'd be any left at the end of the day!
 
Genetics can play part of a role in it. This article is great if you want to know more about it (so is the Metabolic Rate Overview on the same site):



"However, Not Everybody Has it as Easy as Everybody Else

The research, however, is very clear: not everybody has it as easy as some folks do. Some people’s bodies are, in fact, demonstrably more resistant to weight loss (or gain) than others. Not that they can’t lose (or gain) weight but it comes off or on more slowly. More accurately, their bodies fight back harder.

Researchers call these folks Diet Resistant and the reasons behind this resistance is just starting to be determined. It probably has to do with how these individuals brains perceive changes in caloric intake which determines how their brains react to those changes. Some people’s bodies simply increase metabolic rate more quickly (or drop it more quickly) in response to increased or decreased calories. You can see similar variations in terms of what’s lost during dieting; given the same diet and exercise program, some people will lose a lot more muscle than another.

And we all have that one friend who eats nothing but ice cream and soda and never gains a pound. Of course, when you look closely, you find that the person really isn’t eating as much as it looks like overall, or they are only eating that one big meal per day that you happened to see, or they are burning it off because they are constantly moving (in essence, they fidget the excess calories off), or they compensate the next day after eating a lot and eat very little so that overall they maintain their weight.

These people’s brains sense the caloric excess more readily and either blunt hunger harder and faster, or get the person to move more, to burn it off. The same thing happens in reverse, some people’s metabolic rates slow down faster when calories are restricted, or makes them move around less during the day so they burn fewer calories, making further fat loss a lot harder. You can learn everything you ever wanted to know about this by reading the article Metabolic Rate Overview.

So there is no doubt that there are individual differences and efficiencies between people, that probably explains why you can find one person who reports near-magical results with nearly every diet out there: they happened to hit the one that just ‘fit’ their individual metabolism and chemistry. It would be silly to ignore all of that and I do hate being silly.

But that doesn’t change the fundamental rules of thermodynamics which apply to everybody and everything. Given 100 calories, the most you can store is 100 calories. Sure, one person may only store 75, while another stores all 100, but 100 is still the maximum. It’s a physiological impossibility to store more than you actually ate because you can’t make something out of nothing. There’s lots of things like this, that you simply can’t do. You can’t make gold out of lead, you can’t find an honest politician, and you can’t store 500 calories if you only ate 300.

So when a 300 pound individual, who probably has a maintenance intake of 4000+ calories, says that they gained weight on 1400 calories I have to be very leery of how true that is. Either they are that 1 in 100,000 person with a metabolic rate below 1400 at that bodyweight (who has never been found to exist in any study on the topic over a span of about 5+ decades), or they aren’t being accurate in how much food they are eating or how many calories they are burning each day. You can probably guess which one I think it is. And, so we’re clear, I’m not saying that they are deliberately lying, either, I want to make that very clear. They are just as bad as everybody else at estimating their caloric intake and expenditure. Which is apparently pretty bad.

Which is why you can’t magically gain weight on 1000 calories per day if your maintenance intake is 2000 calories per day. Either your body will mobilize stored fuels, or it will slow down metabolic rate to 1000 to put you back into balance (and no study has ever shown the latter to occur in the absence of rather massive weight loss). Something has to happen. But weight gain on sub-maintenance calories isn’t one of them.

It’s also why you can’t not gain weight on 3000 calories per day if your metabolic rate is only 2000 calories per day. Either you start storing fuel or your body is speeding up metabolic rate to compensate. Something has to happen."
 
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Thanks for the replies guys. I've been watching the thinnest of them all and she throws her dinner away nearly every day. She eats maybe a 1/4 of it then decides she doesn't like it and throws it away. She also asks me if I want it first. I can't believe I've never noticed it before.
 
I also have a couple really thin friends! The thinnest are around 5'4, 90 pounds...They do not have an eating disorder. I always thought they eat whatever they want and stay thin...UNTIL I WENT TO DINNER WITH THEM! We pretty much ordered the exact same huge thing...they only ate about 1/3 or 1/2 of their meal and I ate the whole thing (mostly because I wasnt going to pay $25 for a meal and not eat it! tomfoolery!)...so the others are right...but

I still have another friend who is thin and she literally eats whatever she wants and EVERYTHING, sometimes more than me! But she still stays thin and even struggles to put on weight. How do you explain that??
 
It is weird. I've got a friend who I've known for years. In Primary School she'd eat wholemeal cucumber sandwhiches, now she eats a hell of a lot of crap. Maybe it has something to do with her eating healthily for so long? =/ Confusing! Everybodys just different I suppose.
 
I also have a couple really thin friends! The thinnest are around 5'4, 90 pounds...They do not have an eating disorder. I always thought they eat whatever they want and stay thin...UNTIL I WENT TO DINNER WITH THEM! We pretty much ordered the exact same huge thing...they only ate about 1/3 or 1/2 of their meal and I ate the whole thing (mostly because I wasnt going to pay $25 for a meal and not eat it! tomfoolery!)...so the others are right...but

I still have another friend who is thin and she literally eats whatever she wants and EVERYTHING, sometimes more than me! But she still stays thin and even struggles to put on weight. How do you explain that??

Do you see everything she eats every day? You say sometimes she eats more than you... the other times does she eat less? I have a friend who is the 'go to' girl for finishing off extra donuts at work, but she hardly eats anything at home. Which is probably why she's 2 inches taller but 25lbs lighter than I am...
 
On the other side of the coin, i work with a guy who is 400+lb, who never seems to eat anything. But i KNOW he must be eating/drinking a lot at home or other places to be able to retain that size :)
 
On the other side of the coin, i work with a guy who is 400+lb, who never seems to eat anything. But i KNOW he must be eating/drinking a lot at home or other places to be able to retain that size :)

Either that, or he hasn't take a dump in a reeeeeeeeeeally long time.
 
In my 20's, as a cigarette smoker, I could eat what I want and stay thin without exercise (125lbs for years). When I quit smoking in my late 20's, I gained 15 (needed) pounds and started healthier eating and exercise habits. In my late 30's, I've inched up slowly to 160lbs, and a workplace injury has recently limited my exercise. But even not dieting/not exercising due to the injury for 8 months only caused a 10lb weight gain.

I'd say my metabolism has slowed down quite a bit in 20 years, still.

I think those who have always had to struggle to maintain a healthy and fit weight are more disciplined than I have needed to be. I hope I can gain that discipline as the inevitable age-related metabolic-rate decrease continues.
 
Yes it angers me.They can glob on Pizza and cakes etc etc and stay thin.I have to say though since i shed my weight and in a good frame i noticed i can eat alot and put nothing on but sometimes i put on fat then in a few days i will be thin like i was a bit weird
 
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^ Yes, I noticed this, too. Muscle burns more calories than fat. Muscle weighs more than fat, also. I don't mind the scale so much when I first start exercising and watching what I eat--because the scale stays the same (or actually my weight increases) before I start losing a bit of weight.

Those thin friends eventually will get fat (or may already be "skinny fat": high body fat %, despite a low total weight, has similar risks as obesity/overweight).
 
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