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I put my MOM on NX Labs Slimquick Extreme and I guess I want to know If any of you ladies have had good results with it.
Hey Pack'n, my personal opinion is to ditch it. More than likely she'll see some results but unless she changes her eating habits/excercise habits, basically the lifestyle which got her overweight to begin with, she'll just go back to where she was before.
Helping her with a better diet (healthy eating) along with cardio and resistance training will benefit her better in the long long run.
Helping her with a better diet (healthy eating) along with cardio and resistance training will benefit her better in the long long run.
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Her Diet is far above avg. We own a health food store
I'v got her on about a 1200-1500 cal. D-intake and tomorrow she will start the first of ten sesions w/ a Personal Trainer I know. She is very determined. Thanks for the comment. I have found that to be true. I just thought it mite give a little boost.
I'v got her on about a 1200-1500 cal. D-intake and tomorrow she will start the first of ten sesions w/ a Personal Trainer I know. She is very determined. Thanks for the comment. I have found that to be true. I just thought it mite give a little boost.
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We checked again today and she is down a total of 10lbs.:yelrotflmao:
Congratulations to your mother. My mother started at 299 pounds and is down to 220.
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She's 5'3" and is now 190lbs
Your mother weighed 200 pounds and you put her on a 1500 cal (at most) diet? That means that she is averaging 6-7.5x bw in intake before activity expenditure...that's not even enough to support BMR! This is far too low, and she's going to have incredible difficulty maintaining her weight loss for long. You should consider re-evaluating your nutritional recommendations.Her Diet is far above avg. We own a health food store
OK Chillen- you have go to drop that nickname, or abbreviation for this dude immediately! hahahahaha
he seems damn smart and well, that whould be his call not yours...hhahahaha
Usually it gets shortened to "bip" although technically the screename is pronounced "bye-pen-eight" so he's also kinda right, too
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This diet is only say 30% under what she was eating before. Please Comment
% of previous diet doesn't mean anything by itself: she could be dieting 5% or 50% under what she was eating before: that doesn't mean that it's appropriate or that it will last, depending on what the "before" actually is. You need to observe her at baseline intake appropriate to her BMR and AMR needs, and then reduce in small increments, between 10-20% of intake.
If her current diet represents at best 30% less than what she was eating before, then that puts her at a previous intake of roughly 2000 calories/day at most, meaning that she had been eating 10x bw, which is a fairly severe diet to begin with. Without appropriate training and refeed schedules, that intake level would eventually (probably very quickly) lead to alterations in Leptin and thyroid hormones, resulting in a slow down of her metabolic rate and her weight loss would come to a grinding halt. Take a look at an article that i wrote on the subject (diet plateaus) here:
If her current diet represents at best 30% less than what she was eating before, then that puts her at a previous intake of roughly 2000 calories/day at most, meaning that she had been eating 10x bw, which is a fairly severe diet to begin with. Without appropriate training and refeed schedules, that intake level would eventually (probably very quickly) lead to alterations in Leptin and thyroid hormones, resulting in a slow down of her metabolic rate and her weight loss would come to a grinding halt. Take a look at an article that i wrote on the subject (diet plateaus) here:
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According to a BMR calc. her basal metabolic rate 1550cal. 20% of this is 1240cal. If she lifts weights for 40min. her needs would be 1722cal. 20% of this is 1377cal. so I can't see where I'm that far off I beleve you know what your talking about so I can up it a little. now that you know what her basal is can you comment. thank you very much for taking your time to answer.
I beleve you know what your talking about so I can up it a little. now that you know what her basal is can you comment. thank you very much for taking your time to answer.I still question those numbers (the BMR), although that's probably closer than anything else. The problem with any calculator is that it's an estimate at best. However, understand that true BMR is the sum total of energy expenditure of the vital organs and brain: it is evaluated by gas exchange in the resting condition (usually lying supine) in a temperature controlled environment in a fasted state (because true BMR requires that no other energy is being used, not even for digestion)...therefore, even if we assume that 1550 is accurate, your diet isn't even providing enough energy for basic cellular functioning. That is starvation, not a diet. ADL energy requirements typically add another 20% on top of BMR, bringing her numbers closer to 1800-1900. Given an average hour workout, which may burn an additional 300-500 calories depending on the intensity, this might bump her needs up to a total of 2100/2200 calories (or 11-12x bodyweight) for her to LOSE weight.According to a BMR calc. her basal metabolic rate 1550cal. 20% of this is 1240cal. If she lifts weights for 40min. her needs would be 1722cal. 20% of this is 1377cal. so I can't see where I'm that far off
Right now, factoring in workout expenditure of 400 cals (the avg assumption), you are providing her with HALF of what she needs to be able to digest food and to walk each day. Like I said, I have typically seen results with 11-13x bodyweight with my clients, and you can see those results here:
You don't need a massive deficit to see results, and typically you'll see better results with less of a cut in cals, not more (in fact, there have been a number of studies that show that specifically: If our bodies weren't adaptive to intake, then this wouldn't be true...but since our bodies do adapt through homeostasis and endocrine response, a diet that provides smaller deficits will work better for a longer period of time than a diet that causes large cuts in calories).
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Thank you very much! I will take that to hart and check out your website.