Sleep deprivation and exercise

amy1985

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I'm having a big problem with insomnia lately (I posted a thread in the off topic section to talk about that specifically), and it leaves me not really wanting to go to the gym- both because, well, I'm exhausted on less than 6 hours sleep a night, and because I'm not confident of my ability to think clearly and therefore not hurt myself when I go. But this means I'm getting a lot less exercise (which probably makes the sleep problem worse, and I'm currently in my first plateau which may be caused/ exacerbated by the lack of exercise).

Should I be going to the gym when I'm exhausted? Should I just try to be more careful, or take things as they come, cut anything out, use lighter weights, etc?
 
good sleep is essential for recovery after a weights routine, you may be able to get by in the short term but it will take its toll in the long run.

my youngest son take medically prescribed melatonin which combined with no TV or computer and dimmed lights 30 minutes before bed works wonders for helping him sleep. before the melatonin he would sleep around 3 hour a night. reading the info about it that his doc gave us points out that melatonin treatment is still considered experimental. I know that you can get melatonin at health food stores here in Aus but the strength is only a fraction of what is in the medication you get from the chemist on prescription.
 
I'm going to be talking to my doctor about it again (I didn't get a favourable response last time, but hopefully that'll change when I can say "look, I had 2 hours then 3 hours then nothing then 7 hours then 3 hours then nothing... I can't cope with that little sleep"), and hope for some more help. I don't want to be on drugs for it long term, but I'd love to be able to break the cycle.

Do you think I should go to the gym anyway, just to see how I go? I feel a bit incapacitated, sort of like I've had too much alcohol, but apart from that and the fact I feel crappy, I want to exercise.
 
Try doing this:

  1. Make your workouts shorter and more intense
  2. Don't read or study at least an hour before bed
  3. COMPLETELY black out your room - no clocks, led lights, etc.
  4. If possible, go to bed soon after dark and wake up without an alarm clock

This helped me tremendously when I was struggling with sleep. Basically, you are trying to get your body into recovery, ease your mind before bed, sleep deeper and get your body into a more natural rhythm.

This obviously won't work for everyone - due to scheduling conflicts, kids, etc. -- but if you can pull it off, then give it a try!
 
From a more science-based approach, sleep compression therapy is, from what I've read, the only thing that efficiently treats a fucked sleep rythm, and sleep depravation. Now if you're dealing with an actual underlying medical condition, sleep compression won't change a thing. But if it is basically about not having a good basic rythm to your sleep and wake time, then it is the way to go about it. It basically consists of setting a time where you get up, every single day. That includes mondays, sundays and all other days. Even days after parties, days after birthdays and what not. You then count six hours backwards, and thats the EARLIEST you can go to sleep. This results in you having a six hour window where you can sleep each day. You then keep doing that till you fall asleep when you hit that early spot, and you force yourself up whenever you have to get up. For me I set 6am as get up, and 00:00 as go to sleep. This will probably result in sleep depravation for a while, but since it is basically impossible for the body to not sleep at some point (unless there is an underlying medical condition) you will end up going to sleep at 00:00 in this example because you'll be devastatingly tired after a few days.

Beyond that you start making habitual stuff to make your body start preparing for sleep when you brush your teeth, and if you have a hard time going to sleep you have to be fucking pedantic about this. You wash hands, shit, pee, brush teeth and whatever else you do in the same exact order. You do the exact same routine in the exact same order every time you're about to go to bed.

Actual diseases aside, this has an efficacy that is well above any other tested method of teaching people how to get a normal healthy sleeping routine.
 
Well you wouldn't want to hyper inflate my already impressive ego anyways ;)
 
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